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Annabelle Babii
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Join date: 2 Jun 2007
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11-25-2007 16:14
From: Conan Godwin
My father was suffocated by one. I have had an irrational hatred of them eversince.


Them, and clowns. Because clowns are just creepy.

Blankets, clowns and furries.



That's too bad, because for christmas, I knitted you a blanket with a furry clown on it.
Conan Godwin
In ur base kilin ur d00ds
Join date: 2 Aug 2006
Posts: 3,676
11-25-2007 16:19
From: Annabelle Babii
That's too bad, because for christmas, I knitted you a blanket with a furry clown on it.


My nemesis has returned!
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hateful much? dude, that was low. die.

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Chris Norse
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11-25-2007 17:01
From: Nina Stepford
but it affords you no privacy.



That is your opinion. To many of us, ban lines do provide privacy.
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Conan Godwin
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11-25-2007 17:02
From: Chris Norse
That is your opinion. To many of us, ban lines do provide privacy.


I think Nina's point is that they don't stop someone camming round your house - they just stop you from knowing about it. To you, though, that may be the same thing as maintaining your privacy.
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hateful much? dude, that was low. die.

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Chris Norse
Loud Arrogant Redneck
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11-25-2007 17:09
From: Conan Godwin
I think Nina's point is that they don't stop someone camming round your house - they just stop you from knowing about it. To you, though, that may be the same thing as maintaining your privacy.



If it keeps them from using my poseballs or walking into my bedroom, then it is maintaining my privacy.

I am not running a damn free sex area for noobs, they can go to Nina's house for that.
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Wilhelm Neumann
Runs with Crayons
Join date: 20 Apr 2006
Posts: 2,204
11-25-2007 17:12
From: Eben Slade
Ok, so I know that property-owners can ban individuals from their land for any reason, even insipid & senseless reasons. However, should you only ban for in-world offenses?

The other day a RL friend of mine came over and we looked at the home I just built in SL. I was showing her what options I had checked (she wanted to know more about auto-return,) when she asked to see my ban list. I showed her and explained how each person made their way onto the list.

When I got to the guy who spams about his "darkRP post appocalyptic community" and the girl who thinks Americans are all rude, my friend asked me if I had ever met these people in-world. I replied that I had not.

Well, she was mortified. RL and SL are supposed to be seperate! You can't ban people sight-unseen!

*sigh*

I calmly changed the subject and clicked off of the ban list, but even after she left I was a little befuddled. Did I do the wrong thing? Is karma going to bite me in the ass? Am I the only person who does this?



people do it all the time and honestly I dont have a huge problem with it as long as its first hand info and not rumours of rumours etc. They do however expect LL do behave differently but in reality WE ALL do it and can't seperate very well. I have no one on my ban lists for forum stuff but I know many who do and in some cases those same people want LL to think differently. At least you are aware of what your doing and why.

Is karma going to get you? its your virtual strip of land you can allow whomever you want onto it just as much as you decide who can come into your backyard in the real world so no i doubt it lol

Are you the only person who does this? Nope many community members do this and so does LL
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Conan Godwin
In ur base kilin ur d00ds
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11-25-2007 17:14
From: Chris Norse
If it keeps them from using my poseballs or walking into my bedroom, then it is maintaining my privacy.

I am not running a damn free sex area for noobs, they can go to Nina's house for that.



So camming in and photographing you "Brendaing" is okay then?

I'll keep that in mind.
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hateful much? dude, that was low. die.

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Chris Norse
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11-25-2007 17:16
From: Conan Godwin
So camming in and photographing you "Brendaing" is okay then?

I'll keep that in mind.


That is a violation of CS, happy AR day :D
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Angelique LaFollette
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11-25-2007 17:18
I never ban people Until they show they cannot behave themselves on my property. I had a friend Long ago, My first year in SL, he was never banned from my home, though he was banned from many, many Places. He WAS someting of a griefer, though never a destructive one (No Sim Crashing devices, or Cages, or Guns), he just goofed on people. He started by teasing me, I politely asked him to Give me a Moment as i was talking to someone. Later he teased me a Little more, and I Teased back. I never got Offended by his Goofing about, I was polite to him, and after a time he was polite to me as well. he demonstrared he Could behave Himself when asked Nicely, so i never banned him.

In the OP's case,, I wouldn't have Banned the Spammer, because he did nothing to disrupt my Property, Nor was he likely to. He Spammed OFF WORLD, Not in SL. As for the Young lady who expressed Dismay at Americans supposed Discourtesy, Well, everyone is entitled to their Opinion, and i would have respectfully disagreed with it, and NOT validated her Opinion by Banning her without even meeting her. (For the record, I'm NOT American, but i did Live in Louisiana for ten years.)

The OP wasn't Breaking any rules by banning these people, he was Well within his rights to do so IF he chose, But Having the right to do something doesn't automaticly Make it Right. I could ban ANY one of you who have disagreed with me, Or made Sport of my way of typing from my property right now, But i would never think of it, because I would much prefer leaving you the opportunity to come and Speak to me in person, Get to Know me, and let me get to know you. We can Disagree Without having it turn Into a War. That's a sign of Maturity.

Angel.
Nina Stepford
was lied to by LL
Join date: 26 Mar 2007
Posts: 3,373
11-25-2007 17:35
no, that is not privacy, chris norse. if the entire region can watch you do something, then you are not doing that in privacy. if you are opposed to somebody using your poseballs, then maybe you should say 'i dont want people using my things'.
From: Chris Norse
If it keeps them from using my poseballs or walking into my bedroom, then it is maintaining my privacy.

I am not running a damn free sex area for noobs, they can go to Nina's house for that.
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Chris Norse
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11-25-2007 17:40
From: Nina Stepford
no, that is not privacy, chris norse. if the entire region can watch you do something, then you are not doing that in privacy. if you are opposed to somebody using your poseballs, then maybe you should say 'i dont want people using my things'.



Your opinion Nina. Have a good day Nina. Maybe you can find some happiness in your life today.
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Conan Godwin
In ur base kilin ur d00ds
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11-25-2007 17:42
Sesame Street was brought to you today by the number 69 and the word "Schadenfreude".
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From: Raindrop Cooperstone
hateful much? dude, that was low. die.

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Nina Stepford
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Join date: 26 Mar 2007
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11-25-2007 17:43
how does my opinion of privacy relate to my happiness?
and if i can watch every movement you make within your home, how can that be considered privacy?
From: Chris Norse
Your opinion Nina. Have a good day Nina. Maybe you can find some happiness in your life today.
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Okiphia Rayna
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11-25-2007 17:44
From: Conan Godwin
Sesame Street was brought to you today by the number 69 and the word "Schadenfreude".

Schadenfreude (IPA: [ˈʃaːdənˌfʁɔʏdə] Audio (German) (help·info)) is a German word meaning 'pleasure taken from someone else's misfortune'. It has been borrowed by the English language[1] and is sometimes also used as a loanword by other languages.

It derives from Schaden (damage, harm) and Freude (joy); Schaden derives from the Middle High German schade, from the Old High German scado, and freude comes from the Middle High German vreude, from the Old High German frewida, from frō, (happy). In German, the word always carries a negative connotation. A distinction exists between "secret schadenfreude" (a private feeling) and "open schadenfreude" (Hohn, a German word roughly translated as "scorn";) which is outright public derision.


Have a nice day Kids!
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Okiphia Rayna
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11-25-2007 17:44
From: Nina Stepford
how does my opinion of privacy relate to my happiness?
and if i can watch every movement you make within your home, how can that be considered privacy?


Cause you cant barge in and do it with me. Read meaning #2

pri·va·cy /ˈpraɪvəsi; Brit. also ˈprɪvəsi/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[prahy-vuh-see; Brit. also priv-uh-see] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun, plural -cies. 1. the state of being private; retirement or seclusion.
2. the state of being free from intrusion or disturbance in one's private life or affairs: the right to privacy.
3. secrecy.
4. Archaic. a private place.
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Nina Stepford
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11-25-2007 17:49
but you are not free from intrusion as i can cam directly into the parcel.
From: Okiphia Rayna
Cause you cant barge in and do it with me. Read meaning #2

2. the state of being free from intrusion or disturbance in one's private life or affairs: the right to privacy.
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Conan Godwin
In ur base kilin ur d00ds
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11-25-2007 17:52
From: Okiphia Rayna
Schadenfreude (IPA: [ˈʃaːdənˌfʁɔʏdə] Audio (German) (help·info)) is a German word meaning 'pleasure taken from someone else's misfortune'. It has been borrowed by the English language[1] and is sometimes also used as a loanword by other languages.

It derives from Schaden (damage, harm) and Freude (joy); Schaden derives from the Middle High German schade, from the Old High German scado, and freude comes from the Middle High German vreude, from the Old High German frewida, from frō, (happy). In German, the word always carries a negative connotation. A distinction exists between "secret schadenfreude" (a private feeling) and "open schadenfreude" (Hohn, a German word roughly translated as "scorn";) which is outright public derision.


Have a nice day Kids!


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From: Raindrop Cooperstone
hateful much? dude, that was low. die.

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Conan Godwin
In ur base kilin ur d00ds
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11-25-2007 17:53
I had been happy if the general camp,.
Pioneers and all, had tasted her sweet body,.
So I had nothing known
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hateful much? dude, that was low. die.

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Okiphia Rayna
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11-25-2007 17:54
From: Nina Stepford
but you are not free from intrusion as i can cam directly into the parcel.


OK, maybe this one is specific enough

pri·va·cy (prī'və-sē) Pronunciation Key
n.

The quality or condition of being secluded from the presence or view of others.
The state of being free from unsanctioned intrusion: a person's right to privacy.
The state of being concealed; secrecy.
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Anti Antonelli
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11-25-2007 17:59
From: Okiphia Rayna
OK, maybe this one is specific enough

pri·va·cy (prī'və-sē) Pronunciation Key
n.

The quality or condition of being secluded from the presence or view of others.
The state of being free from unsanctioned intrusion: a person's right to privacy.
The state of being concealed; secrecy.
Not really the best choice of reference to illustrate your point.

Not that I disagree with what you tried to convey, I just think it's funny how it turned out :p
Nina Stepford
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11-25-2007 18:02
if it helps i can post urls to sites where people can post their own definitions, wiki-style.
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Conan Godwin
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11-25-2007 18:04
From: Nina Stepford
if it helps i can post urls to sites where people can post their own definitions, wiki-style.


Can we completely make them up wiki-style?
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From: Raindrop Cooperstone
hateful much? dude, that was low. die.

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Okiphia Rayna
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11-25-2007 18:05
From: Anti Antonelli
Not really the best choice of reference to illustrate your point.

Not that I disagree with what you tried to convey, I just think it's funny how it turned out :p

Not necessarily both, it says or, not and. Therefore privacy is still there when you can be seen but not be in the presence of someone.
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11-25-2007 18:06
From: Nina Stepford
if it helps i can post urls to sites where people can post their own definitions, wiki-style.

and both of mine are from dictionary.com although I did make the entry at 'urbandictionary.com for packle
lol
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Conan Godwin
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11-25-2007 18:07
From: Okiphia Rayna
Not necessarily both, it says or, not and. Therefore privacy is still there when you can be seen but not be in the presence of someone.



You don't say where you got that definition from though.
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