I still remember the password I used for that class, many years later, even though I have never used that specific password for anything other than that one-shot class exercise.
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Nina Stepford
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08-05-2009 08:49
if you dont use it for anything, will you share it? i am curious about this. i have made a fair effort to create a secure passwd and am curious how it stacks.
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LittleMe Jewell
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08-05-2009 09:23
Assuming someone has a case-sensitive password comprising 6 alpha-numeric characters, that's 62^6 (or 56, 800, 235, 584) possible combinations. I'm sure that's readily crackable -- at least assuming you don't trip some sort of security precuation if you have too many wrong guesses -- with a fast computer, but, in reality, how great a risk is it someone's going to try it? Argent... Some days you really, really scare me and make me worry about you.  _____________________
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Ceera Murakami
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08-05-2009 09:43
if you dont use it for anything, will you share it? i am curious about this. i have made a fair effort to create a secure passwd and am curious how it stacks. Ai1wlU41 And there's a way I have for making that indecypherable and unpronouncable mess extremely easy to memorize and recall. The method that produced that password is several years old. My current pasword method is even harder to crack. _____________________
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Lolita Pro
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08-05-2009 10:03
more than 9, mixture of numbers and letters, no real words, no phonetic spellings of words, no references to anything remotely personal.
I used to work in the hotel biz ... so my password is a particular city code (not my own or anywhere I lived), the code for a specific hotel within that city, and a random date I used to use to pull up the hotel info in the computer. Good luck ... start cracking. |
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Kidd Krasner
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08-05-2009 11:09
I use a One Time Password (OTP) generator to create my passwords and they are long. I don't bother to remember them but have all my logins stored in a PDA which encrypts the lot with strong encryption and gives me access on a 4 digit PIN. Yes the PDA is backed up, encrypted backups and the PC sync program also stores the data encrypted and demands a PIN login to access but allows me to quickly cut and paste my login passwords. All I have to do is remember my PIN and update the PC program or PDA with a changed password and the next sync does the rest. Neeto hmmm? I do the same, except a 4 digit PIN is silly! If your PDA is lost or stolen, someone could break in easily, just by being patient - unless your system is designed to lock up after some number of wrong guesses. I've been using eWallet by Ilium Software. It has a password generator that lets you configure the length, character set choices, whether to make it pronounceable, and whether to come up with a mnemonic sentence to help remember the password. You need to enter a master password to access it, you can set a timeout limit after which it closes automatically. All I'll say about my master password is that it has more than digits, and that it's longer than 4. |
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Zoha Boa
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08-05-2009 11:52
This post reminds me of a RL customer who called me that he lost his password for the accounting program.
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Gabriele Graves
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08-05-2009 14:57
I do the same, except a 4 digit PIN is silly! If your PDA is lost or stolen, someone could break in easily, just by being patient - unless your system is designed to lock up after some number of wrong guesses. EDIT: Removed due to being wrong. _____________________
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Kidd Krasner
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08-05-2009 15:10
Indeed after 3 wrong guesses my PDA locks and has to be hard reset and restored from backup. ATM cards use a 4 digit PIN, so does my house alarm system so why do I need anything extra for less important things? My PDA cannot be even logged in without a different 4 digit PIN, which also locks after 3 goes, that is before you even run the password program. Yah, I think I am covered OK. The hard lockup probably solves the problem. The same is true for many ATMs - they'll eat the card. (I don't know whether they still do this; it's been a long time since I've heard of this happening to anyone.) Someone who's really clever might be able to get through the PDA's security to access the password database - by opening it up and working with the chip directly on a custom circuit board. Highly unlikely unless you're a target of spies, but there's a lot of technology out there for breaking ATM cards. But less important? Break an ATM PIN, and you get one or two accounts, with a limit on daily withdrawals. Break a password vault - assuming you have all your passwords here - and you get into all your online accounts, work passwords, email passwords, etc. The risk is huge. |
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Kidd Krasner
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08-05-2009 15:18
EDIT: F.Y.I. a 4 digit pin has (obviously) 1000 different combinations, my PDA allows one try every 5 secs (up to 3 max) - even without the limit that would take approximately 3.47 days of constantly trying a different number every 5 seconds to eventually be able to crack it. Remember too that this cannot be automated like it can on a desktop computer, it has to be through the touch screen. It's 10,000. But every 5 seconds is 12/minute, 720/hour, which is roughly 14 hours. And I don't mean to pick on you for typos or math errors; we all do those. (My first thought was 20/minute.) The point is that security isn't something to treat casually. |
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Gabriele Graves
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08-05-2009 15:21
The hard lockup probably solves the problem. The same is true for many ATMs - they'll eat the card. (I don't know whether they still do this; it's been a long time since I've heard of this happening to anyone.) Someone who's really clever might be able to get through the PDA's security to access the password database - by opening it up and working with the chip directly on a custom circuit board. Highly unlikely unless you're a target of spies, but there's a lot of technology out there for breaking ATM cards. But less important? Break an ATM PIN, and you get one or two accounts, with a limit on daily withdrawals. Break a password vault - assuming you have all your passwords here - and you get into all your online accounts, work passwords, email passwords, etc. The risk is huge. The time taken to get through the front door of my PDA and then crack the ecnryption on the storage to get at the passwords would give me a huge breathing space of time to do this I think. I think my strategy is sound, even with 4 digits PINs. _____________________
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Snickers Snook
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08-05-2009 15:44
My password is an entire paragraph from an obscure 17th century Latin liturgy so I selected 9+.
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Gabriele Graves
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08-05-2009 15:47
It's 10,000. But every 5 seconds is 12/minute, 720/hour, which is roughly 14 hours. And I don't mean to pick on you for typos or math errors; we all do those. (My first thought was 20/minute.)  Don't quite know what happened there  The point is that security isn't something to treat casually. _____________________
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Ceka Cianci
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08-05-2009 15:54
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Argent Stonecutter
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08-05-2009 15:59
Where's the "unsee" button?
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Oscar Wylder
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08-05-2009 16:05
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Oscar Wylder
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08-05-2009 16:06
uhh .. 10 carackters !
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Oscar Wylder
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08-05-2009 16:10
No no ..
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Anya Ristow
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08-05-2009 19:57
My password is "pass". Why do you ask?
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Mitzy Shino
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08-05-2009 20:55
I have no idea what length mine is, I typed it in once long ago and haven't had to type it again since!
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Looli Vella
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08-05-2009 22:56
What if the 6 alpha-numeric characters are 'adam12'? I found out than many police officers use that password (harley1 is the other most common one) -- though not where I work anymore cuz I put in stronger rules. Once, while up to no good, a co-worker and I discovered that three of the directors in our national office were still using the default password for their email accounts, i.e. password. THREE! As for mine, it's a full paragraph from an ancient Sanskrit text, rescued from the muck of the Ganges eons ago. It takes me a full half hour to log in every time, but it's worth it for the peace of mind! |
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Looli Vella
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08-05-2009 22:58
My password is an entire paragraph from an obscure 17th century Latin liturgy so I selected 9+. Whoa. Weird religious text password joke jinx. What are the chances? |
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Snickers Snook
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08-06-2009 00:19
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Tegg Bode
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08-06-2009 00:54
I could tell but then I'd have to kill you
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08-06-2009 03:21
I just use ordinary Welsh words. The paucity of vowels tends to confuse hackers, as does the fact that Welsh words have a nasty habit of changing their initial letters.
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Jack42 Meredith
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08-06-2009 04:16
ok what did everyone use as there password? everyone tell us your password
this is just a poll to see the creative ideas for passwords |
