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Samaira Vieria
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Join date: 5 Apr 2007
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12-06-2007 17:03
Yup I used my NI # .. I don't remember exactly what they asked for, maybe ss # or something but I assumed that was a NI # here. I couldn't use any other option. Doesn't worry me, if someone wants to be me they can pay all my debt!
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Ciaran Laval
Mostly Harmless
Join date: 11 Mar 2007
Posts: 7,951
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12-06-2007 17:05
Yup I used my NI # .. I don't remember exactly what they asked for, maybe ss # or something but I assumed that was a NI # here. I couldn't use any other option. Doesn't worry me, if someone wants to be me they can pay all my debt! I'm not at all sure how you've managed this, I just went in with my alt and when I select United Kingdom the only available options are passport and driving licence. NI number is no form of identification and shouldn't be used as such. |
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Samaira Vieria
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Join date: 5 Apr 2007
Posts: 114
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12-06-2007 17:16
Wow that's weird, as in we got different options, mine were the same for me & my alt, are you in England or elsewhere in the uk? I had about five choices, driving license, passport, last four numbers of something or other etc yanno i'm gonna go verify an unused account I have & find out now cause it's bugging me! brb
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Ciaran Laval
Mostly Harmless
Join date: 11 Mar 2007
Posts: 7,951
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12-06-2007 17:19
Wow that's weird, as in we got different options, mine were the same for me & my alt, are you in England or elsewhere in the uk? I had about five choices, driving license, passport, last four numbers of something or other etc yanno i'm gonna go verify an unused account I have & find out now cause it's bugging me! brb Sounds like they think you're in the United States with all those options!!! lol, how weird! |
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Samaira Vieria
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Join date: 5 Apr 2007
Posts: 114
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12-06-2007 17:24
lmao guess what?? It fails verification every single time on my account! My main account & alt, both premium, went through fine first time, but an account I had when I first came to sl & is literally at newbie stage, fails. I'm wondering if the system is busy or maybe cause i've got cancellation pending on it? I put in to close it yesterday?
Anyway I get six options, driving license, passport, SIN (Social Insurance Number?) .. Personal Identification number (I was thinking they want my ATM # lol) .. ID card I think (Identity #) & last four digits of a SS # I think that's it! God they can't even get their verification sorted the same for us all! |
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Rascal Ratelle
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Join date: 28 Jul 2006
Posts: 62
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12-06-2007 18:17
The Following has NOT been addressed:
What is the garuntee that this third party will respect the privacy laws and NOT store he info unless requested? Is LL Monitoring this third party? Why should we entrust our privet info to a third party we know nothing about? What about security? how securer is this third party? Who do we hold accountable if a security breach occurs at the third party? What about third party credentials? I believe we have the Legal right to view those too. What garuntees do we have against Identity theft? I refuse to submit any of my privet info to The third party until you guys address ALL my concerns and questions regarding this issue. I do NOT feel safe nor secure releasing my privet info to a third party I know nothing about. How much do free accounts have to pay? what about those of us unable to get a credit card for what ever reasons or can’t access pay-pal? Also it’s illegal for an online virtual world to require a users social security number for any reason. THere’s not a single piece of ID on that list that I feel I can trust SL with. |
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Velda Nikolaidis
Remembers to blink...
Join date: 22 Jun 2007
Posts: 30
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Verified
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Worked for me 1st time using drivers license number... only took a few seconds to do
![]() Tried new beta viewer with it earlier... unverified ppl see the ugly red "no entry" lines around my land (not sure I'm allowed them on private Island?) Step in right direction IMO V. Verified xoxoxo |
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Alyx Sands
Mental Mentor Linguist
Join date: 17 Feb 2007
Posts: 2,432
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12-06-2007 18:49
The Following has NOT been addressed: What is the garuntee that this third party will respect the privacy laws and NOT store he info unless requested? Is LL Monitoring this third party? Why should we entrust our privet info to a third party we know nothing about? What about security? how securer is this third party? Who do we hold accountable if a security breach occurs at the third party? What about third party credentials? I believe we have the Legal right to view those too. What garuntees do we have against Identity theft? I refuse to submit any of my privet info to The third party until you guys address ALL my concerns and questions regarding this issue. I do NOT feel safe nor secure releasing my privet info to a third party I know nothing about. How much do free accounts have to pay? what about those of us unable to get a credit card for what ever reasons or can’t access pay-pal? Also it’s illegal for an online virtual world to require a users social security number for any reason. THere’s not a single piece of ID on that list that I feel I can trust SL with. Nice, but do you think you really HAVE to cross post this EVERYWHERE, including JIRA where it doesn't belong??? _____________________
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Susie Boffin
Certified Nutcase
Join date: 15 Sep 2004
Posts: 2,151
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12-06-2007 19:01
LL and the third party age identity verification company must be rubbing their hands with glee with all of these posts. Why on earth would people submit to this?
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Sun Etoile
Double star
Join date: 28 Aug 2006
Posts: 33
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12-07-2007 00:46
Wow that's weird, as in we got different options, mine were the same for me & my alt, are you in England or elsewhere in the uk? I had about five choices, driving license, passport, last four numbers of something or other etc yanno i'm gonna go verify an unused account I have & find out now cause it's bugging me! brb Yes, I got all those options too; I'm in England. The only ID I have is an expired passport. I verified my alt with it yesterday without a problem, but when I tried to verify "me" just now, it said the process had failed. It's bad enough that Altie has been here only five minutes and already has more friends than I do - now she's verified as well and I'm not. I wonder if they check only a random selection against public records, and not each one. |
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Leanne Karas
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Join date: 22 Feb 2007
Posts: 126
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12-07-2007 00:56
Unable to verify with either passport no. or Drivers license no. ..... grrrr...
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Sally Silvera
live music maniac
Join date: 17 Feb 2007
Posts: 2,325
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12-07-2007 00:59
Nice, but do you think you really HAVE to cross post this EVERYWHERE, including JIRA where it doesn't belong??? Now, Alyx...... did you not wonder why the poster is so concerned about releasing information about their hedge? ![]() _____________________
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Chas Connolly
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Join date: 24 Jan 2007
Posts: 1,433
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12-07-2007 01:26
Now, Alyx...... did you not wonder why the poster is so concerned about releasing information about their hedge? ![]() ROFL, beat me to it - as per usual. _____________________
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Min Fairweather
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Join date: 21 Feb 2007
Posts: 202
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12-07-2007 01:36
The only way I imagine they can do this in the UK is by using the public version of the electoral register. I believe that everyone over 18 should be on it so that they can vote.
However there is an option on the annual(?) form from the council to be omitted from the public version. An option I always tick as I don't want loads of spam post. It appears that the people in the UK being successful at verification or unsuccessful is fairly random. I'm wondering...if you can't verify are you on the public electoral register? If not then maybe that's the problem? This may also explain the address issue, with some folks having to verify with old addresses. If you're registered on the electoral register at an old address that may be the one you have to use. |
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Min Fairweather
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Join date: 21 Feb 2007
Posts: 202
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12-07-2007 01:39
p.s. In other words, for UK users my guess is that the NI, Passport, and Driving License numbers are completely irrelevant. They're just using your name and address to check. Just found this website where anyone can check someone's details including their d.o.b.
http://www.theukelectoralroll.co.uk/ |
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Denise Bonetto
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Join date: 31 Jan 2007
Posts: 705
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12-07-2007 01:40
I tried to verify as I will need to access restricted parcels due to my business, but I couldn't.
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Denise Bonetto
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Join date: 31 Jan 2007
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12-07-2007 01:44
p.s. In other words, for UK users my guess is that the NI, Passport, and Driving License numbers are completely irrelevant. They're just using your name and address to check. Just found this website where anyone can check someone's details including their d.o.b. http://www.theukelectoralroll.co.uk/ hmmm, I don't want to pay to test that on me, but whenever I fill out the electrol roll forms I always put a tick on the box stating I don't want the information available publicly or something like that to try and avoid my personal details on the web. Wonder if that has anything to do with it? _____________________
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Sun Etoile
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Join date: 28 Aug 2006
Posts: 33
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12-07-2007 02:22
The only way I imagine they can do this in the UK is by using the public version of the electoral register. I believe that everyone over 18 should be on it so that they can vote. However there is an option on the annual(?) form from the council to be omitted from the public version. An option I always tick as I don't want loads of spam post. It appears that the people in the UK being successful at verification or unsuccessful is fairly random. I'm wondering...if you can't verify are you on the public electoral register? If not then maybe that's the problem? Min, I opted out of inclusion on the register too, but I was able to verify my Alt yesterday - oddly enough she lives at the same address I do [G]. Today, using the same information, the verification fails. |
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Panacea Pangaea
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Join date: 2 Nov 2006
Posts: 48
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12-07-2007 04:14
I mentioned this in the Blog entry "Identity Verification Comes to Second Life" back in August, but while everyone else seems to be worrying about what private companies might be doing with the information they receive, it is now the case that US intelligence agencies can intercept at will any electronic communication that comes from outside the US. And Identity Verification data of non-US citizens is precisely the sort of information that will fill out their databases nicely.
It is handing to them information that they wouldn't be able to get otherwise ... as many have pointed out, often the identifying information being asked for (such as Canadian SINs) is not the information that Integrity would already legally have in order to check identity. (No doubt it will also mesh nicely with other information such as credit card number, email address, dietary habits, etc, that gets logged when ever one flies to the US these days.) I guess many will shrug and say, so what?, but the point is that while there are certain protections for US citizens against US government surveillance and interception of data, and some protection of the data that is held, the protections against this for communications originating outside the US are almost non-existent. From a BBC article by Bill Thompson **: “I can choose to live without a mobile, avoid cafes that insist on spying on their customers and stop using Twitter. I can campaign against the local authority’s decision to install CCTV in my town, argue with my local MP about the limits of the state’s right to watch what I’m doing, and influence the debate in this country or even more widely in Europe. “But I have no control, influence or even clear understanding of what the government of a supposedly friendly superpower is doing with the information it gleans from Google, Facebook, Linden Labs, Yahoo!, MSN, Apple and the many other US corporations that service my online life. “Perhaps we need to rethink our reliance on the US for our network services, if the government there persists in treating every non-US citizen as a source of intelligence data rather than an individual with their own rights and freedoms.” ** http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6958615.stm |
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Caroline Ra
Carpe Iugulum
Join date: 20 Dec 2006
Posts: 400
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12-07-2007 04:34
I mentioned this in the Blog entry "Identity Verification Comes to Second Life" back in August, but while everyone else seems to be worrying about what private companies might be doing with the information they receive, it is now the case that US intelligence agencies can intercept at will any electronic communication that comes from outside the US. And Identity Verification data of non-US citizens is precisely the sort of information that will fill out their databases nicely. It is handing to them information that they wouldn't be able to get otherwise ... as many have pointed out, often the identifying information being asked for (such as Canadian SINs) is not the information that Integrity would already legally have in order to check identity. (No doubt it will also mesh nicely with other information such as credit card number, email address, dietary habits, etc, that gets logged when ever one flies to the US these days.) I guess many will shrug and say, so what?, but the point is that while there are certain protections for US citizens against US government surveillance and interception of data, and some protection of the data that is held, the protections against this for communications originating outside the US are almost non-existent. From a BBC article by Bill Thompson **: “I can choose to live without a mobile, avoid cafes that insist on spying on their customers and stop using Twitter. I can campaign against the local authority’s decision to install CCTV in my town, argue with my local MP about the limits of the state’s right to watch what I’m doing, and influence the debate in this country or even more widely in Europe. “But I have no control, influence or even clear understanding of what the government of a supposedly friendly superpower is doing with the information it gleans from Google, Facebook, Linden Labs, Yahoo!, MSN, Apple and the many other US corporations that service my online life. “Perhaps we need to rethink our reliance on the US for our network services, if the government there persists in treating every non-US citizen as a source of intelligence data rather than an individual with their own rights and freedoms.” ** http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6958615.stm You mean the US use other nations/organisations spy on people? *gasp* http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,1152323,00.html _____________________
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Allex Amdahl
Registered User
Join date: 7 Oct 2006
Posts: 23
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no luck verifying with UK driver's licence
12-07-2007 10:34
Tried my driver's licence as ID - but failed to verify.
It suggested trying an old address, but given that I haven't moved for well over a decade, there doesn't seem much point. I can't see why they are asking for passport/driver's licence/SSN in the UK. As far as I'm aware, they don't have access to the official records to check these - unless the government has lost them that is .The UK driver's licence number does has the date of birth encoded into part of the number - so this might be useful for age check, but not identity. It didn't work for me though. Maybe the problem is due to opting out of the public version of the electoral register? I'm not happy with parting with my SSN or passport no. - so I'll probably stay unverified if they can't fix the system. I noticed I can still get onto my own land if I flag it as "age verfied only", although other people can't get in - so maybe this could be the way forward. I'll need to set my land as "age verified only" because I have an adult store there - so if they do stop me going onto my own land I'll probably shut up shop and leave. Allex |
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Ciaran Laval
Mostly Harmless
Join date: 11 Mar 2007
Posts: 7,951
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12-07-2007 11:10
The UK driver's licence number does has the date of birth encoded into part of the number - so this might be useful for age check, but not identity. It didn't work for me though. Maybe the problem is due to opting out of the public version of the electoral register? The passport agency have confirmed to me that Integrity don't have access to passport agency databases. I verified and I'm opted out of the edited register. Credit reference agencies are allowed to check the full register which we're all on but it's a criminal offence for them to sell those details on, so I'm not sure where they get their information from but I've taken out mortgages and loans in the past so maybe my details are available from those companies, I get plenty of junk mail so my general details can easily be found. |
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Alyx Sands
Mental Mentor Linguist
Join date: 17 Feb 2007
Posts: 2,432
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12-07-2007 12:00
Now, Alyx...... did you not wonder why the poster is so concerned about releasing information about their hedge? ![]() The Evil Privet of Identity Doom? After all, that stuff is poisonous.Yes, Rule No. 1, if you HAVE to cross post-at least check the SPELLING. ![]() _____________________
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Mariko Katayama
Registered User
Join date: 5 Dec 2007
Posts: 0
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12-07-2007 14:30
This is odd.
During the Concierge Beta, I was able to verify. Now, with the exact same ID method, I'm unable to verify an alt. |
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Yumi Murakami
DoIt!AttachTheEarOfACat!
Join date: 27 Sep 2005
Posts: 6,860
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12-07-2007 14:34
Very strange.
I was able to verify during the Concierge Beta. Now, with the exact same ID, it refused my attempt to verify an alt. |