have u been asked/forced to age verify yet?

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a LIE i told Arkady Yost usin an alt that Jump was really 12. while hittin on his fat butt wife.

IF some idiot SAYS without proof that you ARE underage. LL suspends your account FIRST and demands that you fax them real life documents
(or scan them and add em to a support ticket) OR they will discontinue your account
if you log on with alts for the same ip address they suspend and age verifi request your alts and IP ban you (easy to spoof your mac adress but they decimate you until u verify

I've sent you a brain inworld. Perhaps ya can make use of it?

Yes, I think you should.

I don't think it should take 5-7 days. I don't think you should ever have to do it more then a single time for any single account. I think if you have to verify each individual account seperately, it's probably because it's easier for LL to have that information indexed to each account seperately rather then relying on cross referencing accounts.

IDV is LL's way of giving you an extra layer of protection in being able to say "Yes, this is who I say I am and I am an adult willing to take responsiblity for myself and the things I experience on the SL platform". That's why you can verify with false information. If you want to claim to be someone else with your account information, that fraud would be on you.

But IDV I don't think was ever meant to be an ironclad door to prevent minors from accessing the main grid. It's a legal maneuver rolled into a PR trouble spot. It's meant I think primarily to provide a legal definition of who is responsible for the adult material on the grid.

So IDV isn't meant to "be enough" to prove much of anything other then you have jumped thru another hoop in saying that you are an adult and responsible for your own actions. If you were lying about the information you provided, you would be adding another layer of fraud to your account, which probably means it won't be helping you on your day in court.

So.... if LL is going to require manual verification for people that are AR'd for being underaged then I could understand being frustrated with a process that takes a week to complete. But I still think you probably gave everyone enough cause to question your maturity, Jumpy and I'd definately want ID proof from you too if I were the one reading the AR and deciding what to do.

Best advice? Stop acting like a tard and seeing how far you can go griefing people before they AR you. O, and try acting like what you are expecting to be treated as... coz even Mari at her childish best still acts like a reasonable and mature (* for her age*) human being.

It took me a few hours to clear mine up, and probably only took that long because it was early on a weekend morning. I called the number, send in a jpg of my driver's license on a support ticket, and within a couple hours of that, I was back in business.

On the advice of the Linden who helped me, though, I filed an AR against the person who made the malicious false report against me.

Gosh, it's nearly impossible to argue with this sort of logic, huh?





You told someone you were 12. That was probably all that was needed to suspend your account and all your alts.

If it was a lie that your are 12, well, sucks to be you dude. Maybe if you stop lying and acting like a 12 yr old you'd be easier to believe.

O, and btw, what sort of proof would someone be able to obtain on you that you really were 12 prior to ARing you for you admitting/lying that you were 12?

griefing if you can call it that (torley linden called it spirited mischief) and locutions are NOT evidence of being underage.

Not "definitive" evidence, true; but they certainly do create reasonable doubt.

i always look at pepeles profiles before i accept crap from em. (i have enemies )

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good luck with it and try to be mindful of the point. (that any turd can ar ya wheter u r underage or not and LL suspends (NOT BANS) ur accout til u fork over rl info WITHOUT any proof on the part of the clown who ared ya. now if my locutions offend that's one thing, if you're a tard tryin to be cute (er keep tryin?) but if u r a freedom lovin american, im a Linden and have the Lab straighten this unjust policy of napoleaonic guilty until PROVEN innocent out.

in american jurisprudence the prosecutorial side has the burden of proof, a defendant is assumed innocent until PROVEN guilty (what burden of proof means). And the defendant REMAINS innocent if there is REASONABLE DOUBT that that burden has not been met. THAT IS WHAT THE BROMIDES U ARE TOSSIN ABOUT ACTUALL MEAN. how someone talks is NOT evidence and you used reasonable doubt wrong. u r ignorant of the facts at hand. Conversely, under the napoleanic Code, a defendant is assumed guilty and the burden of proving INNOCENCE falls upon the defendant. AS AN AMERICAN DEALING WITH AN AMERICAN BASED COMPANY, I expect that any actions taken bty that company follow AMERICAN traditions (based in Roman Law and English Common Law) and not the scribblings of some french dictator. What i demand is justice. Punishment for those who would make specious, petty abuse reports THEREBY abusing "the system;" and , further I'm railing against LL itself. Once again, fear of endin up in khakis has them over-reacting, OVERREACHING themselves, tossin the lil kiddlies out with the bathwater.

Well, this isn't the criminal justice system, and the "reasonable doubt" of which I was referring was that of whether or not you were of proper legal age as you claimed. Since this isn't a legal case, but merely that of a company enforcing its own TOS policies, LL is not bound by the "innocent until proven guilty" methodology of the court system.

To be frank, LLwas perfectly willing to accept your initial claim of proper age, until certain things gave them a reason to think that your claim MAY NOT have been truthful. Whether or not there was direct evidence of your being underage, the fact is that enough of a question existed that you were asked to provide LL with further proof. And yes, I could certainly see griefing, and your particular "locution" (if that's what you want to call it), giving the Lindens pause for a moment.

True, your being reported could very easily have been a form of "griefing" against you, but turnabout has always been fair play has it not?

Has it ever happened to me? no...... will it? I have no idea.

If it ever did I would simply comply with what LL wants and go play WOW a couple days, if it takes that long.

Do I feel sorry for the OP? Absolutely not.

Bromides. And everyones ACTIONS in this matter are ACTIONABLE at least in civilly. Legal action seems to bee the only thing LL responds to. Ll's suspension barring evidence probvides undo hardship upon the victems of this form of griefing and is again, ACTIONABLE. (SO MEH LAWER PALS TELL MEH!)

my POINT is that you should feel sorry for yourself , as the same may just as easily happen to you. (AS IT HAS TO COUNTLESS OTHERS before meh! a simple search of these very forums will show ya that). Get falsely accused of being underage, too slow in responding to LL's age verification request, have your avatar disconbtinued and see if playin WOW will ease your pain LMAO.

Maybe Jumpy's just mad coz he doesn't have a fax machine and his mom wouldn't drive him to the Post Office to use the fax machine there.

Well come on, let's be pragmatic here. Just because you're not underage today doesn't mean you won't be underage a month from now.

Evidence is just relevant, factual material that's taken into consideration. Relevant chat logs are most certainly evidence. The question is whether it proves what it needs to prove.

In this case, all Linden needs is reasonable suspicion. It's just like a guy getting carded buying cigarettes because he's short, slender, and doesn't need to shave. That's not proof of being under 18, but they don't need proof. (I'm thinking of the days before the policy of carding anyone who looks under 25.)

I don't agree with them requiring proof a second time after getting it once, but it's certainly reasonable for them to require it once if someone keeps acting like a child outside a roleplay context. If you don't want people reporting you for being underage, then you'll have to stop imitating a twelve year old 100% of the time.

that means peoples that are age verified can pretend to be a kid all they want without any risk of being banned from SL?

i would fall under 3 in a previous post, i`m 27 irl and cant verify as i do not have a passport (no need to leave UK) and dont have a driving licence (too many cars on the roads already, i will stick with the bus thanks)

all you need itf they DEMAND that u age verify is birth certif and a bill with your name and adress, i gave em my bank staement with a flood of second life L$ purchases, and sl exchange purchases

Well you are back now. So Shut your pie hole.

With Love,
Jezabell