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foehn Breed
More random than random
Join date: 16 Jan 2006
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04-23-2008 08:22
Some good points, you're just annoyed they pwned you,
guess you're a bad freak in oh what's that? a LL werld afterall toad ![]() _____________________
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Toy LaFollette
I eat paintchips
Join date: 11 Feb 2004
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04-23-2008 09:15
it doesnt matter . im not the first and only person to have been ared and forced to do this. if you are ared because the believe u are underage do you really think they would bother to actually check your past purchasing history or send you a computer generated no-reply email? you think BLIZZARD owns SL. are we playin the same game? hehehehe I feel sorry for you.... maybe but you hardly make any sense to me. Live with it. _____________________
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Sioban McMahon
Registered User
Join date: 1 Mar 2007
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04-23-2008 10:31
Ive often wondered about dat, Mari...... Ive never had to but I suspect 90% of that is a form of griefing. I also believe it happens in areas where most child avs shouldnt be. I may be wrong but I know I steer clear of places that it may happen in. I feel people who suspect all child avs of misbehaving dont know us very well. OMG I dun it again.... I got 2 different shoes on aarrgghh I have an avie that's adult size/shape that I only use for setting up a photo gallery (perfectly PG nature and landscape photos). A mentally disturbed person who has been harassing me turned that avie in as underaged and my account was frozen for a morning. I had to scan my driver's licence and send it in attached to a support ticket and wait for them to check it out. I spoke with a Linden a couple of times in the process and asked if they do anything about malicious false reports like this. There was absolutely NO cause for the report, except this person's impaired mental state. The Linden told me that it would be referred to the Governance Team but that I'd never know what happened from there. It wasn't a huge inconvenience, but really, false reports should be handled as a form of griefing. |
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Jumpman Lane
JUMPY!!!
Join date: 7 May 2007
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04-23-2008 11:25
Some good points, you're just annoyed they pwned you, guess you're a bad freak in oh what's that? a LL werld afterall toad ![]() who the tards i was griefin? heck now, i rezzed lil marios for 2 hours b 4 the g team arrived. 7 day ban was rezzin giant gravity invisible balls for hours befor the g team came to give me a one day ban on one alt then warings on the two who came after todo the same thing lol the age ver requi was just weak one day suspe _____________________
Ya girlfriend says she loves meh! But it's just the jewlreh! Multicolored carots got ya girlfriend kinda curious!
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Kaimi Kyomoon
Kah-EE-mee
Join date: 30 Nov 2006
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04-23-2008 11:27
Say I am a reasonably intelligent and motivated 12 year old. What is to stop me from going into my parents' filing cabinet some day when they aren't home and borrowing my mom or dad's birth certificate long enough to stop at the copy shop and post office on the way home from school and verifying myself as an adult to SL like that?
I actually know nothing about how it all works. But I have known several rl runaway minors who managed to set themselves up with false identities. _____________________
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Jumpman Lane
JUMPY!!!
Join date: 7 May 2007
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04-23-2008 11:35
I feel sorry for you.... maybe but you hardly make any sense to me. Live with it. i have. my point THE point is CAN YOU. and should you have to as YOU are not a minor. should YOU suffer even oneday with ur account suspended with possible discontinuation of your avatar if you are too slow in responding with your age verfication. Just today a received in answer to a support ticket request for entirely DIFFERENT documents to free an alt when my main has already been age verified. _____________________
Ya girlfriend says she loves meh! But it's just the jewlreh! Multicolored carots got ya girlfriend kinda curious!
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Imnotgoing Sideways
Can't outlaw cute! =^-^=
Join date: 17 Nov 2007
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04-23-2008 11:38
.The Linden told me that it would be referred to the Governance Team but that I'd never know what happened from there. _____________________
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Jumpman Lane
JUMPY!!!
Join date: 7 May 2007
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04-23-2008 11:47
I have an avie that's adult size/shape that I only use for setting up a photo gallery (perfectly PG nature and landscape photos). A mentally disturbed person who has been harassing me turned that avie in as underaged and my account was frozen for a morning. I had to scan my driver's licence and send it in attached to a support ticket and wait for them to check it out. I spoke with a Linden a couple of times in the process and asked if they do anything about malicious false reports like this. There was absolutely NO cause for the report, except this person's impaired mental state. The Linden told me that it would be referred to the Governance Team but that I'd never know what happened from there. It wasn't a huge inconvenience, but really, false reports should be handled as a form of griefing. i'm gonna bug trinity and zara and the rest of the gteam tards till someone IS punished for it _____________________
Ya girlfriend says she loves meh! But it's just the jewlreh! Multicolored carots got ya girlfriend kinda curious!
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Jumpman Lane
JUMPY!!!
Join date: 7 May 2007
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04-23-2008 11:49
The governance team has two meetings a week. I'm starting to visit the Saturday one at noon SLT. Last weekend, we could hear the crickets. I was one of three people that was actually asking for information and the Lindens there were getting bored. Maybe a few of us could show up next Saturday and drive the discussion. It seems to be usually open to any subject. (^_^)y i am absolutley going i imed both trinity and zara (g-team hotties and im an expert on hotness lmao) to get the ball rollin on my return! now i want revenge on the turd who turned meh in. i used to attend g team meetins when chadrick ramrodded the gteam. he was coolies, but i dont know the Lindettes. gotta scope em out! ![]() _____________________
Ya girlfriend says she loves meh! But it's just the jewlreh! Multicolored carots got ya girlfriend kinda curious!
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Marianne McCann
Feted Inner Child
Join date: 23 Feb 2006
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04-23-2008 11:53
The governance team has two meetings a week. I'm starting to visit the Saturday one at noon SLT. Last weekend, we could hear the crickets. I was one of three people that was actually asking for information and the Lindens there were getting bored. Maybe a few of us could show up next Saturday and drive the discussion. It seems to be usually open to any subject. (^_^)y I've been regularly attending the Wednesday @ 10:00 a.m. one, but the last couple of weeks I've had connect problems durin the day. VERY worthwhile meetings, IMO. BTW Immy: ever check the creator of the kid size deck chairs in Kremer? ![]() Mari _____________________
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Aeneas Beaumont
*I* am adult content!
Join date: 11 Mar 2007
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04-23-2008 12:11
It seems to me the people who whine the most about being banned and forced to age verify....are the ones who invariably act like children. Interesting and insulting stance you take there. I don't verify, yet I don't think I act childish. I don't grief, I try to be nice to my fellow SL-inhabitants. But... registering because you don't have anything to hide is just as bad. What is your privacy worth to you? I am not handing a suspicious company my passport stuff. If they have it already, they have gotten it by illegal means. If they don't have it, and I give the info, I have given it willingly. But then I am screwed because a business I don't trust will have my details. So... no verification for me. |
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Imnotgoing Sideways
Can't outlaw cute! =^-^=
Join date: 17 Nov 2007
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04-23-2008 12:11
...BTW Immy: ever check the creator of the kid size deck chairs in Kremer? ... I just learned how to do that last month. (^_^)ySomehow, I'm expecting a big turnout this coming Saturday. Maybe the Lindens won't have to banana-spam the place to keep us awake this time around. (^_^) _____________________
Somewhere in this world; there is someone having some good clean fun doing the one thing you hate the most. (^_^)y
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Sioban McMahon
Registered User
Join date: 1 Mar 2007
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04-23-2008 12:47
The governance team has two meetings a week. I'm starting to visit the Saturday one at noon SLT. Last weekend, we could hear the crickets. I was one of three people that was actually asking for information and the Lindens there were getting bored. Maybe a few of us could show up next Saturday and drive the discussion. It seems to be usually open to any subject. (^_^)y I had no idea that they had in-world hours. They wouldn't review actual incidents while in front of residents. It'd be a good place to ask generally, though, about their response to malicious false reports. Thanks! |
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Imnotgoing Sideways
Can't outlaw cute! =^-^=
Join date: 17 Nov 2007
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04-23-2008 12:55
I had no idea that they had in-world hours. They wouldn't review actual incidents while in front of residents. It'd be a good place to ask generally, though, about their response to malicious false reports. Thanks! And, if Linden stalking seems like a fun thing to do... You can always catch up on them during their office hours. These are times when they're on the clock and in-world at the same time. (^_^)y http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Office_Hours _____________________
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Pie Psaltery
runs w/scissors
Join date: 13 Jan 2004
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04-23-2008 14:20
should YOU suffer even oneday with ur account suspended with possible discontinuation of your avatar if you are too slow in responding with your age verfication. Yes, I think you should. I don't think it should take 5-7 days. I don't think you should ever have to do it more then a single time for any single account. I think if you have to verify each individual account seperately, it's probably because it's easier for LL to have that information indexed to each account seperately rather then relying on cross referencing accounts. IDV is LL's way of giving you an extra layer of protection in being able to say "Yes, this is who I say I am and I am an adult willing to take responsiblity for myself and the things I experience on the SL platform". That's why you can verify with false information. If you want to claim to be someone else with your account information, that fraud would be on you. But IDV I don't think was ever meant to be an ironclad door to prevent minors from accessing the main grid. It's a legal maneuver rolled into a PR trouble spot. It's meant I think primarily to provide a legal definition of who is responsible for the adult material on the grid. So IDV isn't meant to "be enough" to prove much of anything other then you have jumped thru another hoop in saying that you are an adult and responsible for your own actions. If you were lying about the information you provided, you would be adding another layer of fraud to your account, which probably means it won't be helping you on your day in court. So.... if LL is going to require manual verification for people that are AR'd for being underaged then I could understand being frustrated with a process that takes a week to complete. But I still think you probably gave everyone enough cause to question your maturity, Jumpy and I'd definately want ID proof from you too if I were the one reading the AR and deciding what to do. Best advice? Stop acting like a tard and seeing how far you can go griefing people before they AR you. O, and try acting like what you are expecting to be treated as... coz even Mari at her childish best still acts like a reasonable and mature (* for her age*) human being. _____________________
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Poddy Collins
Too Hot for You
Join date: 9 Sep 2007
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04-23-2008 15:16
"I AM NOT GONNA REST UNTIL THE TURD WHO ARED MEH IS PUNISHED FOR IT. plain and simple ...it was harrashment"
~ Jumpy _________________________________________ Hi Jumpy, my BF and I are here together and read this thread together. We are both in college. This thread is long and at times confusing, but if we understand you, you WERE griefing people... AND using language like this reflects an early teen or pre-teen level of speech. I have played several online worlds for nealry two years now. I have gotten VERY GOOD at spotting kids, even sometimes guessing their ages pretty close. The griefing you described doing and this language together makes me THINK you are 12 to 13. Barely 14... MAYBE. At 14 to 15 the griefing and language becomes more sophisticated, and often a little more aggressive and frightening. They begin to understand that psychological pain (especially targeting women with stalking, which has happened to me, and brings into play RL fears and experiences) is far more damaging than just droppoing cars on people's heads. It is very possible that someone simply reported EXACTLY what we have observed here. Like this (I'll let Jeff write this. He says it so well! LOL): ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I wish to report obervations (see attached screen caps and chat logs) that make me think there MAY be cause to suspect a child is participating in the mature grid of SL. I am concerned because their extremely juvenile behavior coupled with cosistent linguistics patterns reflect, not a mature adult, but a child of no more than 12 or 13. I have NO MORE substantial verification of my concerns than the attached documentation. hence, I am making no formal accusation. I am merely, as a parent myself and concerned adult, passing on my observations for your review. Thank you. Ms. Concerned SL resident ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I am sorry, Jumpy, but rather than blame others, I hope you will assess your own significant role in bringing this about. Love and hugs, Poddy and Jeff |
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Dakota Tebaldi
Voodoo Child
Join date: 6 Feb 2008
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04-23-2008 15:22
Hey, they've got a point, Jumpman. If you act like a kid, and talk (type) like a kid, and grief like a kid, it's only a matter of time before someone concludes that you might be a kid...
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Sioban McMahon
Registered User
Join date: 1 Mar 2007
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04-23-2008 15:25
Yes, I think you should. I don't think it should take 5-7 days. I don't think you should ever have to do it more then a single time for any single account. I think if you have to verify each individual account seperately, it's probably because it's easier for LL to have that information indexed to each account seperately rather then relying on cross referencing accounts. It took me a few hours to clear mine up, and probably only took that long because it was early on a weekend morning. I called the number, send in a jpg of my driver's license on a support ticket, and within a couple hours of that, I was back in business. On the advice of the Linden who helped me, though, I filed an AR against the person who made the malicious false report against me. |
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Poddy Collins
Too Hot for You
Join date: 9 Sep 2007
Posts: 30
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04-23-2008 15:26
LOL
I've heard thst before, but I think it involved a duck. LOLOL Love Poddy |
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Shinru Spyker
Registered User
Join date: 10 Nov 2007
Posts: 64
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04-23-2008 19:47
I have been asked my age, but just in conversations. never asked out of concern or ever forced.
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foehn Breed
More random than random
Join date: 16 Jan 2006
Posts: 1,142
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04-23-2008 20:13
Come on ppls, OP is no kid, they try too hard,
read between the lines, some of their comments slip into the extreme opposite tells. _____________________
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Jumpman Lane
JUMPY!!!
Join date: 7 May 2007
Posts: 2,114
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04-24-2008 16:01
Interesting and insulting stance you take there. I don't verify, yet I don't think I act childish. I don't grief, I try to be nice to my fellow SL-inhabitants. But... registering because you don't have anything to hide is just as bad. What is your privacy worth to you? I am not handing a suspicious company my passport stuff. If they have it already, they have gotten it by illegal means. If they don't have it, and I give the info, I have given it willingly. But then I am screwed because a business I don't trust will have my details. So... no verification for me. i agree, and here is the horrible part. IF some idiot SAYS without proof that you ARE underage. LL suspends your account FIRST and demands that you fax them real life documents (or scan them and add em to a support ticket) OR they will discontinue your account if you log on with alts for the same ip address they suspend and age verifi request your alts and IP ban you (easy to spoof your mac adress but they decimate you until u verify . _____________________
Ya girlfriend says she loves meh! But it's just the jewlreh! Multicolored carots got ya girlfriend kinda curious!
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Jumpman Lane
JUMPY!!!
Join date: 7 May 2007
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04-24-2008 16:06
"I AM NOT GONNA REST UNTIL THE TURD WHO ARED MEH IS PUNISHED FOR IT. plain and simple ...it was harrashment" ~ Jumpy _________________________________________ Hi Jumpy, my BF and I are here together and read this thread together. We are both in college. This thread is long and at times confusing, but if we understand you, you WERE griefing people... AND using language like this reflects an early teen or pre-teen level of speech. I have played several online worlds for nealry two years now. I have gotten VERY GOOD at spotting kids, even sometimes guessing their ages pretty close. The griefing you described doing and this language together makes me THINK you are 12 to 13. Barely 14... MAYBE. At 14 to 15 the griefing and language becomes more sophisticated, and often a little more aggressive and frightening. They begin to understand that psychological pain (especially targeting women with stalking, which has happened to me, and brings into play RL fears and experiences) is far more damaging than just droppoing cars on people's heads. It is very possible that someone simply reported EXACTLY what we have observed here. Like this (I'll let Jeff write this. He says it so well! LOL): ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I wish to report obervations (see attached screen caps and chat logs) that make me think there MAY be cause to suspect a child is participating in the mature grid of SL. I am concerned because their extremely juvenile behavior coupled with cosistent linguistics patterns reflect, not a mature adult, but a child of no more than 12 or 13. I have NO MORE substantial verification of my concerns than the attached documentation. hence, I am making no formal accusation. I am merely, as a parent myself and concerned adult, passing on my observations for your review. Thank you. Ms. Concerned SL resident ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I am sorry, Jumpy, but rather than blame others, I hope you will assess your own significant role in bringing this about. Love and hugs, Poddy and Jeff ut vid ut insani ut mihi male affectus est hehehehe reqd ALL MY POSTS! COLLEGE PUKE THAT'S LATIN FROM BURTONS ANATOMY OF MELOCHOLY I AM SADDEND BY OUTR ACTUAL YOUTH! ou youtes _____________________
Ya girlfriend says she loves meh! But it's just the jewlreh! Multicolored carots got ya girlfriend kinda curious!
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Jumpman Lane
JUMPY!!!
Join date: 7 May 2007
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04-24-2008 16:07
Hey, they've got a point, Jumpman. If you act like a kid, and talk (type) like a kid, and grief like a kid, it's only a matter of time before someone concludes that you might be a kid... bla h blah blah there are punishmenst for alla that activity hehehehe age verification is not one of them _____________________
Ya girlfriend says she loves meh! But it's just the jewlreh! Multicolored carots got ya girlfriend kinda curious!
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Saucey Barbecue
I Nommed yer Girlfriend
Join date: 10 May 2006
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04-24-2008 16:22
bla h blah blah there are punishmenst for alla that activity hehehehe age verification is not one of them I've sent you a brain inworld. Perhaps ya can make use of it? |