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Colette Meiji
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10-30-2007 10:58
From: Dnali Anabuki Do let me know how that works. I find that they usually put up something really disgusting in response but hey, I'm willing to believe.
And, forum folks, as I remember it when the Forum Cartel membership started to include some scumbags, you decided to control membership. (if I remember correctly..I'm sure someone will let me know if I have that wrong.) And during the great Forum Cartel land search, avoiding eye sores was on the list of must-haves.
Lets be fair here, you forum folk are not scumbags and you know it. But there really are scumbags that cause a lot of damage to many people with their activities. We do need something that allows people to have some info about who they are dealing with. Playing house in SL is one of the major activities and it creates a market for your goods. Having adfarmers extort money from such folks cause their signs can be disgusting is just plain greedy and wrong. And will drive people away who can't afford an island and no longer feel happy in their little cottage. I agree that there are scumbags. I just don't agree that people should keep lists of people who may or more importantly MAY NOT be guilty of something.
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Okiphia Rayna
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10-30-2007 11:01
From: Colette Meiji I agree that there are scumbags.
I just don't agree that people should keep lists of people who may or more importantly MAY NOT be guilty of something. what if the list only contained people who were proven to be griefers, land splitters, etc? Would that be alright?
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Colette Meiji
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10-30-2007 11:01
From: Okiphia Rayna what if the list only contained people who were proven to be griefers, land splitters, etc? Would that be alright? Proven by Who?
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Bradley Bracken
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10-30-2007 11:03
It's frustrating to me living in the west now and having missed all the lawless days. I think going back to persecuting without a trial sounds like a pretty good plan.
I'll go dig up some rope and prepare for our first hangin'
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Okiphia Rayna
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10-30-2007 11:03
From: Colette Meiji Proven by Who? iono... 'them' People like that one Land Baron, and groups that are known for nefarious dealings =P Maybe if you could take video of them doing it or something.. iono.. its possible to prove somehow though
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Dnali Anabuki
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Join date: 17 Oct 2006
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10-30-2007 11:24
Its not that hard. You just go to the 16m plot with the RL porno images or other such visual joys in an otherwise residential area and check to see if the plot is for sale for some extortionistic amount and then add them to the list.
Its pretty obvious what the intent is is such cases. In another case in our hood, some creep bought a 512 in a lovely area, filled it with really offensive spinnning boxes (up to 100m) and no one added him to the list. Someone eventually just bought the parcel for the extreme amount and all the neighbors just banned him from our parcels.
As well, if someone feels unjustly accused, they can always just say so and we have had that in this forum where 16m types have claimed to be targeted...I guess this has become a court of last resort in a way.
It makes me wonder if we could have a forum for just this. Sort of a court hearing. And forum members could go look at the situation and discuss; its happened before where people have gone to see and the response has sometimes been for or against. No verdict, just discussion.
What do think?
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Okiphia Rayna
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10-30-2007 11:26
From: Dnali Anabuki Its not that hard. You just go to the 16m plot with the RL porno images or other such visual joys in an otherwise residential area and check to see if the plot is for sale for some extortionistic amount and then add them to the list.
Its pretty obvious what the intent is is such cases. In another case in our hood, some creep bought a 512 in a lovely area, filled it with really offensive spinnning boxes (up to 100m) and no one added him to the list. Someone eventually just bought the parcel for the extreme amount and all the neighbors just banned him from our parcels.
As well, if someone feels unjustly accused, they can always just say so and we have had that in this forum where 16m types have claimed to be targeted...I guess this has become a court of last resort in a way.
It makes me wonder if we could have a forum for just this. Sort of a court hearing. And forum members could go look at the situation and discuss; its happened before where people have gone to see and the response has sometimes been for or against. No verdict, just discussion.
What do think? I doubt LL would provide such a forum, but I'd be willing to entertain the idea... lets make one =P
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Oryx Tempel
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10-30-2007 11:28
From: Dnali Anabuki It makes me wonder if we could have a forum for just this. Sort of a court hearing. And forum members could go look at the situation and discuss; its happened before where people have gone to see and the response has sometimes been for or against. No verdict, just discussion.
What do think?
I read that a LONG time ago, LL used to call in random residents to sit as jury members for every Abuse Report. They discontinued it, but I think it would be cool to reinstitute it. Didn't Phil say at one point that he'd love for us to form our own government or something?
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Nika Talaj
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10-30-2007 11:30
From: Oryx Tempel Didn't Phil say at one point that he'd love for us to form our own government or something? /me sits down and cries
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Okiphia Rayna
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10-30-2007 11:31
From: Oryx Tempel I read that a LONG time ago, LL used to call in random residents to sit as jury members for every Abuse Report. They discontinued it, but I think it would be cool to reinstitute it. Didn't Phil say at one point that he'd love for us to form our own government or something? Make your own government for your island or something..... that would be cool in my opinion lol... as a whole, I think that SL is too varied for a single government, and it would probably end up being demolished (The gov't, not SL lol) by LL because of complaints
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Dnali Anabuki
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10-30-2007 11:35
Yes, I remember that too...it is in the old SL News issues about the jury.
But it has been working in a defacto way in these forums. Maybe its best it stays informal and a form of rough justice because I'm not a fan of the type of people who want to do these things in a formal way...
It does seem that some form of Consumer Reports and/or list of known scumbags is happening in some informal way now. I wonder if that will change when we get the advanced Search Options that are rumored to be coming...every system has been gamed so far: ratings, traffic and so called unbiased reviews in various SL publications...and the points about the unfair or vindicative use of scumbag lists are valid.
In small communities, a good reputation is key. Maybe a list of good guys is a better idea. Shop here first, look for these people as your neighbors, etc. No one would complain about being on a good guy/good store list.
Again, some of that is happening in these forums...
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Bradley Bracken
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10-30-2007 11:36
From: Okiphia Rayna Make your own government for your island or something..... that would be cool in my opinion lol... as a whole, I think that SL is too varied for a single government, and it would probably end up being demolished (The gov't, not SL lol) by LL because of complaints I know I read recently that a sim owner went defunct and all the residents did form their own government. They had political parties, taxes, etc to keep the sim running. If I recall correctly I searched for the sim and nothing showed so I assumed it didn't work.
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Okiphia Rayna
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10-30-2007 11:37
From: Bradley Bracken I know I read recently that a sim owner went defunct and all the residents did form their own government. They had political parties, taxes, etc to keep the sim running. If I recall correctly I searched for the sim and nothing showed so I assumed it didn't work. well.. even if they did taxes for tier, if noone is able to pay it to LL in the end, kinda out of luck =/
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Bradley Bracken
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10-30-2007 11:39
From: Okiphia Rayna well.. even if they did taxes for tier, if noone is able to pay it to LL in the end, kinda out of luck =/ As I understood it, LL worked with them as an experiment. I'll have to see if I can find the article again. It was interesting.
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Okiphia Rayna
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10-30-2007 11:40
From: Bradley Bracken As I understood it, LL worked with them as an experiment. I'll have to see if I can find the article again. It was interesting. oh cool I'd love to read that if you do I'm gone now =P
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Cherry Czervik
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10-30-2007 11:52
That was when there were hardly any people on SL ... that calling people in ...
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Conifer Dada
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Join date: 6 Oct 2006
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10-30-2007 14:12
From what I've seen the methods used to combat ad-cutters and ad-farmers just add to the problem. Huge tree screens or silvery walls are just as intrusive and less colourful than what they are used to hide.
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Conifer Dada
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10-30-2007 14:15
From: someone Well there are probes and such in-world that add a ton of known land splitters and ad farmers to your ban list. I know that the Arbor Project uses an awesome one but I'm not sure if they made it or keep it up to date or what. One of the most notorious ad-cutters was a member of Arbor Project until they managed to eject him!
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Har Fairweather
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10-30-2007 15:59
From: Oryx Tempel I read that a LONG time ago, LL used to call in random residents to sit as jury members for every Abuse Report. They discontinued it, but I think it would be cool to reinstitute it. Didn't Phil say at one point that he'd love for us to form our own government or something? If that ever happens, I hereby join the Rebel Alliance in advance.
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Carli Dancer
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10-30-2007 15:59
Cool. I volunteer to Register half my Exes for the Scumbag List.
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Dancien Graves
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10-30-2007 16:02
I'm on this list. Mostly because I'm an a-hole and don't believe in false civility.
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Carli Dancer
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10-30-2007 16:04
From: Dancien Graves I'm on this list. Mostly because I'm an a-hole and don't believe in false civility. Don't remember you being one of my exes. Was I drunk, hun?
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Dancien Graves
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10-30-2007 16:05
From: Carli Dancer Don't remember you being one of my exes. Was I drunk, hun? To my knowledge I've never done anything with you. Then again, I've done stuff with lots of people. So I may not be sure.
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FD Spark
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10-30-2007 16:15
I am not land cutter, scammer, tend to be loner and strife to be ethical but some may think I deserve title of scumbag too. How do you know if its not just a bunch of people who don't like so and so who create alts and put up someone like myself as resident scumbag?
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3Ring Binder
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10-30-2007 16:19
Who doesn't like you, FD? Have you been secretly PMing with Raymond today? LOL
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