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Bloodlines: I got raped! Help!

Phil Deakins
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05-05-2009 07:02
The whole thing is an irrelevance. If you object to being in someone's database, don't join any groups, don't log in, etc. and your name won't be seen, so it can't be collected. If your name is seen, no matter how, it can be stored in other people's databases - which is no big deal at all. The only negative thing about bloodlines is the nuisance of the blue pop-ups that ask for permission to bite you. Other than that, there is nothing about it that's of any relevance.
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05-05-2009 07:06
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05-05-2009 07:12
From: Phil Deakins
The whole thing is an irrelevance. If you object to being in someone's database, don't join any groups, don't log in, etc. and your name won't be seen, so it can't be collected. If your name is seen, no matter how, it can be stored in other people's databases - which is no big deal at all. The only negative thing about bloodlines is the nuisance of the blue pop-ups that ask for permission to bite you. Other than that, there is nothing about it that's of any relevance.


Phil, I understand what you are saying but in my case I did not know. That is the point I am trying to make here. If someone is approaching me asking permission from me to do something, then I (perhaps not you or anyone else) would like to know if my name is appearing in their database. If they are going to the extent of seeking one's permission then what is wrong with also taking an additional step and stating upon acceptance, your name will appear in bloodlines database.

IMHO and mine alone, this is not any different when someone participates in ffor example in a walk-a- thon for charity. It says on the sign up sheet, by agreeing to participate you grant permision for your picture, name or whatever to be used in association with this charity and/or event. That is my point.
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05-05-2009 07:13
Am I the only one surprised by all the replies taking the OP seriously? She's probably an alt of one of the forum regulars whose just having a good laugh and poking fun at Bloodlines.
Bhakta Thor
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05-05-2009 07:15
From: Phil Deakins
The whole thing is an irrelevance. If you object to being in someone's database, don't join any groups, don't log in, etc. and your name won't be seen, so it can't be collected. If your name is seen, no matter how, it can be stored in other people's databases - which is no big deal at all. The only negative thing about bloodlines is the nuisance of the blue pop-ups that ask for permission to bite you. Other than that, there is nothing about it that's of any relevance.


I don't see how you can put a disclaimer for everything. Permissions could get pretty long that way.
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05-05-2009 07:22
From: Phil Deakins
The whole thing is an irrelevance. If you object to being in someone's database, don't join any groups, don't log in, etc. and your name won't be seen, so it can't be collected. If your name is seen, no matter how, it can be stored in other people's databases - which is no big deal at all. The only negative thing about bloodlines is the nuisance of the blue pop-ups that ask for permission to bite you. Other than that, there is nothing about it that's of any relevance.


You're right, of course, coming from 'where the logic lies'. But when you are new, and kind of immersed, and trying to learn everything, it's upsetting for this kind of thing to happen. Sure, 'we' know to decline, to blow them off, to point and laugh, to quick change into a huge dragon av, (lol) to TP away, to use our Mystitools to TP them home, and ban them. Newbies don't know this stuff, and it's upsetting to be new and have something like this happen. I AM glad to learn though that there is a new 14 day rule, does that mean I wonder that Bloodlines players no longer lurk at the newbie entry points? 14 days isn't good but is better than nothing.
Phil Deakins
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05-05-2009 07:29
From: sable Valentine
Phil, I understand what you are saying but in my case I did not know. That is the point I am trying to make here. If someone is approaching me asking permission from me to do something, then I (perhaps not you or anyone else) would like to know if my name is appearing in their database. If they are going to the extent of seeking one's permission then what is wrong with also taking an additional step and stating upon acceptance, your name will appear in bloodlines database.

IMHO and mine alone, this is not any different when someone participates in ffor example in a walk-a- thon for charity. It says on the sign up sheet, by agreeing to participate you grant permision for your picture, name or whatever to be used in association with this charity and/or event. That is my point.
I didn't know either - I'm in the database too. But I just don't see that SL names in someone's database is anything of a big deal. I find it a benefit because it stopped the annoying blue requests.

The point I'm making is that anyone, who is capable of doing it, can decide to collect SL names and store them in a database, and nobody can do anything about it. It's probably happening. What *do* all those 16m networks do? Now, if the collected names were used for spamming purposes, and some of them may be, then it would be different, but just having SL names in a database is nothing, and it affects nobody.
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Phil Deakins
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05-05-2009 07:31
From: Treasure Ballinger
You're right, of course, coming from 'where the logic lies'. But when you are new, and kind of immersed, and trying to learn everything, it's upsetting for this kind of thing to happen. Sure, 'we' know to decline, to blow them off, to point and laugh, to quick change into a huge dragon av, (lol) to TP away, to use our Mystitools to TP them home, and ban them. Newbies don't know this stuff, and it's upsetting to be new and have something like this happen. I AM glad to learn though that there is a new 14 day rule, does that mean I wonder that Bloodlines players no longer lurk at the newbie entry points? 14 days isn't good but is better than nothing.
I agree, and it's why I posted to assure the OP that the whole thing is meaningless as far as s/he is concerned.
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sable Valentine
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05-05-2009 07:42
From: Phil Deakins
I didn't know either - I'm in the database too. But I just don't see that SL names in someone's database is anything of a big deal. I find it a benefit because it stopped the annoying blue requests.

The point I'm making is that anyone, who is capable of doing it, can decide to collect SL names and store them in a database, and nobody can do anything about it. It's probably happening. What *do* all those 16m networks do? Now, if the collected names were used for spamming purposes, and some of them may be, then it would be different, but just having SL names in a database is nothing, and it affects nobody.


I agree it does stop them from bugging you about being bitten. I didn't know about what 16m networks *do* till I read about in another thread. For me it is about the "not knowing" part that again IMHO is what I find slightly annoying. For the 16m networks, one of my questions would be what type and why are gathering data and what do you plan to do with it.

Since we are on that topic, for educational purposes would someone please explain what is the purpose of the 16m networks? I don't have a problem with somone gathering data, I just want to know why? That is not really too much to ask.
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05-05-2009 07:51
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Phil Deakins
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05-05-2009 07:55
I don't know what the remaining 16m networks do either. I do know that Dave and Weedy are very secretive about what their's does. I think some were for ads but, apart from that, I've no idea what useful information they could collect. Names of passing avatars, to sell to other people for spamming purposes, perhaps - like email address lists are sold. Maybe some were set up to monitor when land in the sim comes up for sale, but that would seem like an expensive way of monitoring a sim.
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05-05-2009 07:59
From: Treasure Ballinger
But when you are new, and kind of immersed, and trying to learn everything, it's upsetting for this kind of thing to happen. Sure, 'we' know to decline, to blow them off, to point and laugh, to quick change into a huge dragon av, (lol) to TP away, to use our Mystitools to TP them home, and ban them. Newbies don't know this stuff, and it's upsetting to be new and have something like this happen. I AM glad to learn though that there is a new 14 day rule, does that mean I wonder that Bloodlines players no longer lurk at the newbie entry points? 14 days isn't good but is better than nothing.


On my first day I met a group of warrior types who were into fighting in various Sims. I thought they could really kill my avatar and my days in SL would equal just one. I was a little upset, but fortunately, I had already realized how cute the avatars were :) Oddly enough, no one killed me, they were probably enjoying the laugh too much.
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05-05-2009 08:10
From: Silverdown Seetan
I am a bloodlines player "slbloodlines.com" and there is no way to get bitten unless you accept. They have made a few modifications to it where your SL account must be 14 days or more in order to be actually bitten or you buy the hud (L$599) and accept.
Now they just need to finish the job, and require you to buy the HUD to be bitten at all, no matter what your account's age. That is, make it opt in, instead of opt-out.
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Duncan Delicioso
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05-05-2009 08:16
I am a bloodlines player and I cannot stand the spampires that are out there. Yes, I do go to newbie areas once in awhile, but spamming bite requests are never done. I will talk to the newbie, get to know them, help them out with getting their AV started... etc. If after getting to know the person for a little bit I think they would enjoy the game, then I talk to them. I have had some say yes... and some say no. Either way, I have helped a newbie get started. As I tell the ones who say no... I will never ask them again. If they want to do it, they have to bring it up to me. Some do... some don't. Yet, I am still friends with them and help them out whenever I can or they ask. This is how Bloodlines should be played. This is how people should try and bring a newbie (or anyone really) into the game. I find it quite fun and think, if played correctly, it can be alot of fun for others.

I do not play Bloodlines to get my "numbers" higher. I do it because I have a "family" and friends who happen to be in my clan. If someone wants to come into the clan as a vampire? Welcome. If not? They are still my friend.
Duncan Delicioso
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05-05-2009 08:17
From: Argent Stonecutter
Now they just need to finish the job, and require you to buy the HUD to be bitten at all, no matter what your account's age. That is, make it opt in, instead of opt-out.

Couldn't agree with you more. Make it so without the HUD, someone cannot be bitten. This would stop the spampires.
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05-05-2009 08:18
From: Phil Deakins

You don't have a soul in SL.


I wonder how many people believe they do have a soul in SL?
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Phil Deakins
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05-05-2009 08:20
From: Love Hastings
I wonder how many people believe they do have a soul in SL?
I think a few people in this forum think that *I* don't have soul - anywhere lol
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05-05-2009 08:55
From: Sling Trebuchet
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Tanya, obviously you find this very distressing - understandably. The suggestion that you just act as if it never happened is a good one.

As is the suggestion that you AR this vampire for trying to extort money from you.

But if it is all just too distressing and you are only a few days into SL you might want to just start over again with a whole new account and SL identity.

And if you'd like to change the name of this thread to "I feel as if I was raped" you can do that.
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05-05-2009 09:10
From: Duncan Delicioso
I am a bloodlines player and I cannot stand the spampires that are out there. Yes, I do go to newbie areas once in awhile, but spamming bite requests are never done. I will talk to the newbie, get to know them, help them out with getting their AV started... etc. If after getting to know the person for a little bit I think they would enjoy the game, then I talk to them. I have had some say yes... and some say no. Either way, I have helped a newbie get started. As I tell the ones who say no... I will never ask them again. If they want to do it, they have to bring it up to me. Some do... some don't. Yet, I am still friends with them and help them out whenever I can or they ask. This is how Bloodlines should be played. This is how people should try and bring a newbie (or anyone really) into the game. I find it quite fun and think, if played correctly, it can be alot of fun for others.

I do not play Bloodlines to get my "numbers" higher. I do it because I have a "family" and friends who happen to be in my clan. If someone wants to come into the clan as a vampire? Welcome. If not? They are still my friend.


I didn't know you are a Bloodlines player, and am shocked, do you hear, shocked!!! lol j/k. I have a Bloodlines friend who is just like you, I don't play, he knows it and we are still friends. It was him I called over to 'scan' me once when I thought I'd been bitten (I hadn't). He's king of his clan, you probably know him (do all you guys know each other?) and he's a good friend, with or without the RP.
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05-05-2009 09:53
From: Sling Trebuchet
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Duncan Delicioso
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05-05-2009 10:00
From: Treasure Ballinger
I didn't know you are a Bloodlines player, and am shocked, do you hear, shocked!!! lol j/k. I have a Bloodlines friend who is just like you, I don't play, he knows it and we are still friends. It was him I called over to 'scan' me once when I thought I'd been bitten (I hadn't). He's king of his clan, you probably know him (do all you guys know each other?) and he's a good friend, with or without the RP.

LMAO. That's like asking me if i know Pauly since I was born and raised in NY. lol. I try to give people a side of Bloodlines that shows we aren't all bad. Hell, the other day I was at a beach and saw a 15 day old sim get bitten. In open chat she started freaking out. Apparently the guy told her he was requesting a hug. I im'ed her and had a really nice talk to her... and told her to AR him. Not sure it would do anything but it made her feel better. I then IM'ed the conversation I saw to that person's liege... who promptly contacted this girl and apologized to her and would take care of this person.

If you are walking around SL as a vampire and just trying to bite people, then Bloodlines isn't for you. I do it for the RP and the enjoyment of that RP.
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05-05-2009 10:11
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05-05-2009 10:13
Its a game. If you worry about it and want to get your soul back, then you are playing the game.

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05-05-2009 10:16
From: Rime Wirsing
There are a lot of RP communities in SL but you don't see them going around trying to entice newbies and strangers into their games in a, sometimes, underhand manner. I've never had a BSDM person invite me to ... well, whatever it is they would invite me to do. Just doesn't happen and if they operated in the same manner you can bet your fangs there would be a huge stink about it.

Just saying is all.

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05-05-2009 10:23
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