b) doesn't play out any Lindens.
AFAIK, it must not pay out _anything_ of value - not Lindens, nor US$, nor free items.
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Yumi Murakami
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11-19-2007 09:47
AFAIK, it must not pay out _anything_ of value - not Lindens, nor US$, nor free items. |
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Talarus Luan
Ancient Archaean Dragon
Join date: 18 Mar 2006
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11-19-2007 09:56
AFAIK, it must not pay out _anything_ of value - not Lindens, nor US$, nor free items. Actually, you can give out free items, as long as they are not exchangeable for anything of value, IE, like tokens exchangeable for Linden dollars or real currency. |
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Trout Recreant
Public Enemy No. 1
Join date: 24 Jul 2007
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11-19-2007 09:57
The problems with gambling in SL are: * Gambling for money on the internet is illegal in the U.S. ... Incorrect, but it's a common misconception. It's illegal in 11 states (last I checked - that number may be different now) but the only thing illegal on a national level is sports wagering, and even that's questionable. The UIGEA makes it illegal for banks to transfer money to gambling sites. As a practical matter, it's still very easy to do that, but it's not as easy as whipping out your credit card. Once you have money on a site, there is no federal law preventing you from gambling with it. The bottom line is that it's illegal in SL. That's all anyone needs to even care about. LL has said that it won't be tolerated. End of story. Trying to find a loophole or some secret back door method to sneak gambling by is stupid. _____________________
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Maggie McArdle
FIOS hates puppies
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11-19-2007 09:58
Yay Alicia made it to the thread! /me hands out the popcorn. tanks Chris /me puts peanut M&Ms and chocky chips in mine and settles in to watch the latest thriller: Clueless. _____________________
There's, uh, probably a lot of things you didn't know about lindens. Another, another interesting, uh, lindenism, uh, there are only three jobs available to a linden. The first is making shoes at night while, you know, while the old cobbler sleeps.You can bake cookies in a tree. But the third job, some call it, uh, "the show" or "the big dance," it's the profession that every linden aspires to.
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Ciaran Laval
Mostly Harmless
Join date: 11 Mar 2007
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11-19-2007 09:59
AFAIK, it must not pay out _anything_ of value - not Lindens, nor US$, nor free items. Technically you'd be within the rules giving out no transfer items, but a big old casino trying this on isn't going to get far. |
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Cherry Czervik
Came To Her Senses
Join date: 18 Feb 2006
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11-19-2007 10:03
Gimme all ya prims or else... /me goes to ponder on what else... If you're that desperate for 47 prims you can have them  |
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Bree Giffen
♥♣♦♠ Furrtune Hunter ♠♦♣♥
Join date: 22 Jun 2006
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11-19-2007 10:03
I think some kind of in-world competitive game would be the best way to bring gambling back into SL. It would be something that requires just two players like boxing or wrestling or tennis. The organizer would maybe charge a flat entrance fee and then organize the betting process depending on the odds. They would have to build up a certain amount of trust and show that they do pay out according to the odds. I'm not sure if such an competition could be run 24-7 but you could just create events. I guess it would require quite a lot of effort and a good amount of scripting and building but if there's money to be made I think it would be worth it. That's my 2 cents. Feel free to run with it.
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Alicia Sautereau
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11-19-2007 10:05
tanks Chris /me puts peanut M&Ms and chocky chips in mine and settles in to watch the latest thriller: Clueless. pie, coffe & smokes, what more do u need to have fun at the expense of stupidity?  hmm maybe ask the sim owner to lift chaos`s ban just to be on the safe side  If you're that desperate for 47 prims you can have them when done with building my useless junk, i think i`ll be down 21963 prims to ask LL to raise the limit to fit another 47  _____________________
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Cherry Czervik
Came To Her Senses
Join date: 18 Feb 2006
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11-19-2007 10:05
Incorrect, but it's a common misconception. It's illegal in 11 states (last I checked - that number may be different now) but the only thing illegal on a national level is sports wagering, and even that's questionable. The UIGEA makes it illegal for banks to transfer money to gambling sites. As a practical matter, it's still very easy to do that, but it's not as easy as whipping out your credit card. Once you have money on a site, there is no federal law preventing you from gambling with it. The bottom line is that it's illegal in SL. That's all anyone needs to even care about. LL has said that it won't be tolerated. End of story. Trying to find a loophole or some secret back door method to sneak gambling by is stupid. /me smiles at Trout However, there's MASSIVE problems if you happen to take US wagers ... fact!! Still one day this will be irrelevant, the US will open up properly or will use GPS technology to verify which state someone is in. And gambling will STILL be illegal in SL unless they decide to get a Casino licence and that ain't ever gonna happen! ***edit*** smiles at Yumi too. Yay. Sense!!! |
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Hugsy Penguin
Sky Junkie
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11-19-2007 10:07
Incorrect, but it's a common misconception. It's illegal in 11 states (last I checked - that number may be different now) but the only thing illegal on a national level is sports wagering, and even that's questionable. The UIGEA makes it illegal for banks to transfer money to gambling sites. As a practical matter, it's still very easy to do that, but it's not as easy as whipping out your credit card. Once you have money on a site, there is no federal law preventing you from gambling with it. Thanks for the clarification. The bottom line is that it's illegal in SL. That's all anyone needs to even care about. LL has said that it won't be tolerated. End of story. Trying to find a loophole or some secret back door method to sneak gambling by is stupid. It's especially stupid when you advertise an attempted work-around on the public forums. I think it's too bad there can't be a legal (with respect to Linden Lab and real world law) way to have gambling in SL that addresses the other issues too. --Hugsy _____________________
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Maggie McArdle
FIOS hates puppies
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11-19-2007 10:12
pie, coffe & smokes, what more do u need to have fun at the expense of stupidity? exactly!! Morning Alicia how was your weekend? chaos free i hope.  _____________________
There's, uh, probably a lot of things you didn't know about lindens. Another, another interesting, uh, lindenism, uh, there are only three jobs available to a linden. The first is making shoes at night while, you know, while the old cobbler sleeps.You can bake cookies in a tree. But the third job, some call it, uh, "the show" or "the big dance," it's the profession that every linden aspires to.
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Alicia Sautereau
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11-19-2007 10:19
exactly!! Morning Alicia how was your weekend? chaos free i hope. wished it was morning but a true addict wakes up around 1500 and goes to bed at 0700 (yea cet )and lol, thank god i don`t have such an Chaos in RL or i`d jump off the tallest building i can find  (keep wishing ppl  )how was urs? or anyone else`s Chaos free weekend? _____________________
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Bradley Bracken
Goodbye, Farewell, Amen
Join date: 2 Apr 2007
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11-19-2007 10:20
Chaos, don't listen to the rest of them. They have no vision. I have a friend who will do the scripting if you will make the fruit machine. I'm sure you can make a nice one with only about 150 prims.
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Raymond Figtree
Gone, avi, gone
Join date: 17 May 2006
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11-19-2007 10:21
Chaos, don't listen to the rest of them. They have no vision. I have a friend who will do the scripting if you will be the fruit machine. I'm sure you can make a nice one with only about 150 prims. _____________________
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Bradley Bracken
Goodbye, Farewell, Amen
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11-19-2007 10:23
LMAO. You're tempting me to be your fruit machine. I meant "make" a fruit machine. I hesitantly corrected it. _____________________
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Trout Recreant
Public Enemy No. 1
Join date: 24 Jul 2007
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11-19-2007 10:24
/me smiles at Trout However, there's MASSIVE problems if you happen to take US wagers ... fact!! /me melts a little inside. Absolutely true! Also, running a site which facilitates the transfer of funds to and from gambling sites, then taking connecting flights through a US airport is not the hottest idea...not naming names or anything...just sayin' There's a big difference between making wagers as an individual over the internet and running a gaming site that accepts wagers. You probably don't want to be in the business of accepting wagers from US citizens if you are within the reach of US law enforcement. I hear Costa Rica is nice this time of year. _____________________
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Alicia Sautereau
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11-19-2007 10:26
LMAO. You're tempting me to be your fruit machine. /me gets some unhealthy pictures of where to insert the money and where to pull _____________________
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Bradley Bracken
Goodbye, Farewell, Amen
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11-19-2007 10:28
/me gets some unhealthy pictures of where to insert the money and where to pull I need a cold shower after this comment. _____________________
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Maggie McArdle
FIOS hates puppies
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11-19-2007 10:29
/me gets some unhealthy pictures of where to insert the money and where to pull i JUST got that visual out my head...>_<!!! _____________________
There's, uh, probably a lot of things you didn't know about lindens. Another, another interesting, uh, lindenism, uh, there are only three jobs available to a linden. The first is making shoes at night while, you know, while the old cobbler sleeps.You can bake cookies in a tree. But the third job, some call it, uh, "the show" or "the big dance," it's the profession that every linden aspires to.
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Bodhisatva Paperclip
Tip: Savor pie, bald chap
Join date: 12 Jan 2007
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11-19-2007 10:30
LMAO. You're tempting me to be your fruit machine. /me jots this one down in my pickup line notebook... _____________________
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spinster Voom
Registered User
Join date: 14 Jun 2007
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11-19-2007 10:48
In reference to the lottery (which I call a poor man's tax)... heh ... in our house we call it the moron tax I don't understand why it is so hard for people to deal with the fact that you can not gamble anymore, what is the big deal?(Actual Question) because some people are a bit poorly. I am a nicotine addict so am poorly in a different way. Now I can't smoke anywhere and lots of people say to me, what's the big deal? The big deal is addiction ... nasty thing, however it gets you. The only "gambling" I ever do is once a year at the seaside with my family, we all buy a £1 bag of 2p's and hit the penny falls (well, tuppenny falls these days - inflation .... huh!) The rules are: You are only allowed to play the tuppenny falls - no slots, or machines with higher stakes No buying any more bags of 2p's All winnings must be fed straight back into the machines You must stay until you have lost everything First one out is the "winner" and gets to buy the ice-creams ah well, it amuses us ... I hate fruit machines in pubs, because of the flashing lights and stupid noises (I'd quite happily play shove-ha'penny if I knew the rules), and I am glad gambling has gone in SL. |
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Hate Hastings
Two Track Mind
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11-19-2007 10:54
heh ... in our house we call it the moron tax "Tax on the stupid" _____________________
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Cherry Czervik
Came To Her Senses
Join date: 18 Feb 2006
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11-19-2007 10:59
/me melts a little inside. Absolutely true! Also, running a site which facilitates the transfer of funds to and from gambling sites, then taking connecting flights through a US airport is not the hottest idea...not naming names or anything...just sayin' There's a big difference between making wagers as an individual over the internet and running a gaming site that accepts wagers. You probably don't want to be in the business of accepting wagers from US citizens if you are within the reach of US law enforcement. I hear Costa Rica is nice this time of year. I still can't quite believe I turned down the chance to work in Antigua a few weeks ago ... |
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spinster Voom
Registered User
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11-19-2007 11:05
"Tax on the stupid" cruel, but fair |
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Lindal Kidd
Dances With Noobs
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11-19-2007 11:16
I still can't quite believe I turned down the chance to work in Antigua a few weeks ago ... Woof! Is the job still open? Doing what? Never mind, if it doesn't involve being a host mother or a cancer research subject, I'm in! _____________________
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