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Chaos's way around the gambling ban #2 (this one works!)

Chaos Bikcin
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11-19-2007 05:03
EDIT: Before you read, this is not intended to break or "by-pass" any of lindens rules, but to sudgest alternative methods of accoplishing the same thing (in this case legal gambling)

Hey there IS a legal way around gambling, its the same way pubs can have fruit machines in the UK

it would require alot of work, but you could have a game a great skill that seems like chance, the fruit machines in the UK do the same thing depending on how much as been put in/out of the machine, and how the player plays the machine, it seems random but is actually 100% pseado (spelling?) so it is not classed as gambling, this time i have done my reserch on SL gambling rules, refer to http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/08/09/anti-gambling-policy-update-faq/#more-1137 for more info

With a long script of complicated mathmatics to make sure that it is NOT random it is not then illegal as it is a game of skill, and not chance.

Hope this helps someone make a few L$
(by the way it is also UK law that you put the notice that it is skill and not chance on the fruit machines or any other "game of skill", and it means that if LL stumble accross it they will read the notice and not just delete it straight away, and its honest)
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11-19-2007 05:06
will still be banned i highly doubt ll will let someone "skirt" the gambling ban this way considering how much they can loose.

Can't you do without gambling?
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11-19-2007 05:07
You're dreaming.
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11-19-2007 05:11
You really are dense, aren't you? You should be banned just for publicizing ways for people to break Linden's Rules. LINDEN'S Rules. They have decided there will be no gambling. get over it already.
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11-19-2007 05:11
Q: How can I entertain all the bored forum posters with my random thoughts, while at the same time respecting the rules on RA?

A: Get a blog (http://www.blogspot.com or http://www.livejournal.com) and post your thoughts there and put the link in your signature.
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11-19-2007 05:19
lol @ kitty =)

I seem to remember a post about it being daft to POST a method for getting around LL restrictions, on linden controlled forums...:rolleyes:

and sign or no, non-random or no, they will get stripped, because most lindens answering reports of gambling are too busy to bother wading through someones heavily mathed out script to check if it's legit or not
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11-19-2007 05:19
From: Chaos Bikcin
Hey there IS a legal way around gambling, its the same way pubs can have fruit machines in the UK

it would require alot of work, but you could have a game a great skill that seems like chance, the fruit machines in the UK do the same thing depending on how much as been put in/out of the machine, and how the player plays the machine, it seems random but is actually 100% pseado (spelling?) so it is not classed as gambling, this time i have done my reserch on SL gambling rules, refer to http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/08/09/anti-gambling-policy-update-faq/#more-1137 for more info

With a long script of complicated mathmatics to make sure that it is NOT random it is not then illegal as it is a game of skill, and not chance.

Hope this helps someone make a few L$
(by the way it is also UK law that you put the notice that it is skill and not chance on the fruit machines or any other "game of skill", and it means that if LL stumble accross it they will read the notice and not just delete it straight away, and its honest)


The ban on gambling is not because gambling per se is illegal. It is because US law forbids US credit card companies and Paypal from paying money over to gambling sites. LL are not going to risk the CC companies refusing to deal with them if they think SL includes gambling, and the CC companies are not going to risk dealing with any site they think MIGHT have something to do with gambling.

The law on fruit machines in UK pubs is supremely irrelevant to this issue.

Gambling in SL is dead and it ain't coming back.
Cherry Czervik
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11-19-2007 05:36
From: Chaos Bikcin
Hey there IS a legal way around gambling, its the same way pubs can have fruit machines in the UK

it would require alot of work, but you could have a game a great skill that seems like chance, the fruit machines in the UK do the same thing depending on how much as been put in/out of the machine, and how the player plays the machine, it seems random but is actually 100% pseado (spelling?) so it is not classed as gambling, this time i have done my reserch on SL gambling rules, refer to http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/08/09/anti-gambling-policy-update-faq/#more-1137 for more info

With a long script of complicated mathmatics to make sure that it is NOT random it is not then illegal as it is a game of skill, and not chance.

Hope this helps someone make a few L$
(by the way it is also UK law that you put the notice that it is skill and not chance on the fruit machines or any other "game of skill", and it means that if LL stumble accross it they will read the notice and not just delete it straight away, and its honest)


Oh yeah?

Since the company with those fruit machines in the majority of UK pubs is the one paying my wages you are having a laugh.

Get over it. Gambling is GONE.

***edit*** Nope I can't let this pass. So if something is not random it is legal? Wow ... tell you what, why don't we all just set up a three card monte stand while we're at it ...

REAL laws apply to gambling. Case closed.
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11-19-2007 05:47
From: Cherry Czervik
Wow ... tell you what, why don't we all just set up a three card monte stand while we're at it ...

just for fun, I think I will ;) no money involved though.
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11-19-2007 05:52
It's Friday already????? :eek:
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11-19-2007 05:52
From: Cherry Czervik
why don't we all just set up a three card monte stand while we're at it
Or a bank. Same business model.
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11-19-2007 06:14
Popcorn anyone? I can see this subject just isn't going to die...

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11-19-2007 06:24
From: Qie Niangao
Or a bank. Same business model.


lol
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11-19-2007 06:29
From: Broccoli Curry
Popcorn anyone? I can see this subject just isn't going to die...

Broccoli

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11-19-2007 06:47
Would starting a pool to determine Chaos' probable suspension date be disallowed under the gambling ban?
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Oryx Tempel
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11-19-2007 06:48
WTF is a fruit machine? Do you get apples and bananas out of it?

Who CARES about gambling in SL? Is this still an issue?

/me grumbles into her morning tea

Get over it already, FFS.
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11-19-2007 06:51
From: Oryx Tempel
WTF is a fruit machine? Do you get apples and bananas out of it?


It's what we Brits call what you know as 'slots'.

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11-19-2007 06:51
From: Ann Launay
Would starting a pool to determine Chaos' probable suspension date be disallowed under the gambling ban?

I hope he doesn't get banned. His posts are my reason for living.....
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11-19-2007 06:59
And I STILL don't get why gambling is supposed to be oh-so-important to anyone.... 0.o
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11-19-2007 07:03
From: Alyx Sands
And I STILL don't get why gambling is supposed to be oh-so-important to anyone.... 0.o

It's great when you win...........
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Chaos Bikcin
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11-19-2007 07:10
From: Brenda Connolly
It's great when you win...........


and shit when u lose,lol but we still do it
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11-19-2007 07:16
From: Chaos Bikcin
and shit when u lose,lol but we still do it


I don't do it. :D

In reference to the lottery (which I call a poor man's tax) they tell you "you can't win if you don't play" and I like to respond with "you can't lose if you don't play". Call me conservative when it comes to my money. But I worked hard for it, and I don't like throwing it away on things like gambling when the house is programmed to win.
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11-19-2007 07:21
From: Chaos Bikcin
and shit when u lose,lol but we still do it

Yep. And I will be heading to Las Vegas in 3 weeks to continue this nasty habit.
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11-19-2007 07:22
From: Chaos Bikcin
and shit when u lose,lol but we still do it


Your eagerness to have gambling here, plus that comment, makes me want to offer GamCare's contact details ... seriously ...
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11-19-2007 07:24
From: Alyx Sands
And I STILL don't get why gambling is supposed to be oh-so-important to anyone.... 0.o


Only to those who wanna dictate moral codes.. and the credit card companies apparently ;) The rest of us couldn't care less about the subject.
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