reselling goods for higher..

Im really curious on your opinion about buying goods then reselling them on for a higher price.

For example..you see something in a store...its got transfer rights but isnt copiable, would you buy it expressly because you think you could sell it for more in your store or yardsale?

Would you buy 20 of the same item...then sell them on for more than you paid? Is this frowned upon? or is it perfectly legit?

(and NO , im not doing it)

thanks

Fai x

i don't see that's it's illegal, but the store owner will find out and be pissed off at you. it's unethical at best.

Yep. A person doing that may get the stink eye from people who find out but there is nothing stopping them except morals.

Basic commerce isn't it? I don't see the big issue. If the creator puts a note inside saying it's not intended for resale that's a different issue. If we had a decent search system it would be less likely to happen.

items set to "no mod" will retain their creation name, so if "show in search" is clicked, any store owner can search their products by name and they will appear in the new search at every store that is resellign them.... that has "show in search" clicked.

and yeah, it's basic commerce. again, not illegal. just inappropriate behavior.

i had a group-owned yard sale. some were doing it, and when i was approached about it, i shut down the yard sale because people were mad at me.

i always seem to get caught up i naughty things. LOLOL

Well there you go then, the buyer should find the value of an item.

Why is it inappropriate behaviour? This isn't an experiment in socialism as far as I'm aware. I really don't see the problem. People just need to shop around, as they do in RL.

All vending machines buy low and sell higher in the RL and no one comments about those?

I agree if the item says its not for resale and you go and resell it ur in the wrong,but if there is nothing that says u cannot resell it I say go for it,no diffrence then buying in bulk and selling a product at ur set price.


Rebel

Unethical? to resell goods from your own store location? It happens all the time in RL, why is it unethical in SL?

I'm wondering how many people bought multiples of the Last Call outfits at the 100L sale for this purpose. The perms were changed to transfer and, since there will never be any more designs from Ginny, I'll bet they could ratchet the price way the hell up.

I don't really see that it's unethical. If someone else is buying your transferrable products to resell them at a higher price, as long as they aren't claiming that they actually made them themselves, all that means is that, in effect, more people are buying your products.

I don't really make transferrable items but I used to, and if anyone managed to get more for them than I sold them for, good luck to them. If I was bothered about it I would raise my own prices.

Someone tipped me off about that, the place was packed. I wasn't interested at the time but I don't see anything wrong for those who did see that as an opportunity. Really popular store.

A smart shopper looks for the best deals anyway.

Personally I wouldn't do it....I'd rather come up with my own unique creations. When I do look for items...I look in places that are owned and operated by the creator of the goods. I don't buy in malls or yard sales unless i find a really good bargain. So....while I don't see it as totally wrong....I don't see it as totally ethical either. But....if you do it, chances are you'll get buyers who are unaware, and they'll buy at your prices. So be it.....if they later discover that they've been had...oh well.
I think it's up to the consumer to be smart about how they shop...same as RL.

Dammit, I bought one of everything - never occurred to me to buy more...why didn't you post this before they closed?

*sigh*

If they are not intended for resale, then the creator should seriously consider no trans items, plain and simple. And, if someone is selling them for more --- caveat emptor. If they are still in the original packaging and the consumer walks into a furniture store with Shoe Fly Shoes decorating a corner -- I would like to think folks are at least curious enough figure out why the square block doesn't go in the round hole. In the same respect, if that business owner goes through all the trouble to repackage items, re-texture and all that - what are ya gonna do? Sit back and enjoy the cash flow. But.........To further protect; if you do have affiliates......make a simple 'Authorized Affiliate' sign for your business partners to display on location.

They already have Ann -- I have seen that same stuff out on the streets for 400-600L.

When you coming shoe shopping? I got a gift card with you name on it.

CC

Geez - and I've just been giving mine away after I wear them. Apparently I am just not a good capitalist - or just way too nice.

/me stops to rethink her policy

Nope - I'm also too lazy to bother reselling anything.

I have a question....

If someone does do that..say buys 20 sofas and resells them for more, if a problem arises with one of those sofas how is the seller meant to fix it? Help adjust a pose? I think it could be a huge can of worms for someone trying to make a quick buck.

But I also have to say that I dont really see anything wrong in reselling..just the above point should be considered.

If they have the knowledge of how to fix it, and it's modifiable, then it's not so bad. But I do agree, it could end up rather evil to have to keep attempting to help people >.<


And in general, I'm against buying and reselling at a higher price... it's just not honest, in my opinion, and I, for one, like honesty. I don't even resell items, if I have something I don't need I give it to a friend or a newbie, free of charge, because I figure that I'm not really losing any money. I got my use out of it, so I'm happy.

I'd never consider reselling at a higher price, and if I found a friend doing it, I would confront them and possibly defriend them. Morals are important to me, and that doesn't seem like good morals in my opinion.

How about doing this in your own store?

Yesterday I went back to a shop to buy another copy of a favourite shirt in a different colour. It being a unisex design, the same shirt was displayed on male models a few shelf rows down.

Well, wouldn't you know, the one for women was L50 more than the one for men! Although a little miffed, I bought the one for men and, sure enough, every fold and seam is identical.

The nerve!

I think you misread my post completely.

Of course it wont be evil trying to help someone.. but how is a reseller without the help of the original creator going to help the end customer if something goes wrong with a transfer only product?

Will the original creator be happy having random people not in their transaction history constantly asking for help?

Items here are generally sold with no warranties, again it's a buyer beware issue. It's really up to buyers to do their homework.

I agree to an extent, but as a "creator" I would always stand behind my products and help in every way I can.. I think though I would get a little miffed if I was doing that because someone was selling my stuff but could not add that customer service.

In a functioning economy, there would be nothing wrong with this. In fact, you would be an entrepreneur.

There are two problems with this in a Second Life economy.

1) There is absolutely no effective means for consumers to do comparison shopping in Second Life. That's why Second Life consumers feel particularly ripped off when the buy something one place, then find it somewhere else for far less. What could they have done to figure out that it would be sold for far less someone else? In First Life, it's far easier to find all kinds of different sellers for products to find the best price. In First Life, if you buy something then find it for less somewhere else, it's more likely attributable to the fact that you didn't do your homework.

2) There are no production costs in Second Life. After you buy your 20, it is effortless for the original creator of the product to just make 20 and sell them at the lower price. In First Life, you would have taken 20 of the product off the shelf. In Second Life, the creator of the product can restock the product immediately.

In Second Life, if someone buys a product for you when it's available for somewhere else less, it's likely because they had no good way to find out that it was available for somwhere else less. That's why, in such cases, Second Life consumers really cry foul.

In turn, the additional profit you make from this activity in Second Life could mostly be attributed to the fact that you took advantage of someone else's lack-of-knowledge.

Of course, none of this is illegal, nor does it violate any particular Second Life rules.

This kind of stuff should be prevented, but not necessarily with rules, but with mechanisms to help consumers get better educated to the peculiarities of the Second Life "economy," and better ways for consumers to get information and do meaningful comparison shopping.

If there was any additional value added to the transferable product being resold, then I don't have an issue with a reseller increasing the price (i.e. rare original items with the creator's name embedded that are no longer being made because the creator has left SL permanently). However, to just buy up stuff with the intention of jacking the price up for a profit is greedy and misleading. The value of a resold item is (in my opinion) of less value than one sold directly from the creator because a creator is under no obligation to support resold products. Persoanlly, if I can't verify a customer in my transaction history, I have no way of knowing how a person got hold of my product (most likely illegal copying since I don't sell many transferable items).

Always buy from the creator. And, if the price is TOO good to be true, then also beware of ripped content. That is also a big issue!