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Kidd Krasner
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11-14-2008 07:17
From: Lias Leandros
yes, the sexgen one you mentioned and the infamous one where the guy bilked the land store and was deleted. He sued and got his Lindens, account and items returned to him. The TOS crumbled under legal scrutiny. We threatened a class-action suit in 2006 (and had already retained the attorney) when LL pulled the bottom out of the Telehub land market. LL crumbled and bought the land back from all of us.

I don't recall the ToS being involved in the sexgen case, only the Bragg case. And, if I recall correctly, it was only the arbitration provision that was struck down in the Bragg case, not the entire ToS.
Conan Godwin
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11-14-2008 07:39
From: Brenda Connolly
Unfortunately, there is only one way to effectively show your anger at LL, and understandably many won't do it. Walk away, and don't come back. And they know it.


Isn't there any way that we can use violence to achieve this?
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hateful much? dude, that was low. die.

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Conan Godwin
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11-14-2008 07:42
From: Blot Brickworks
Yet,until they have have a proper rival I agree with you.


Well, we could all migrate to real life but I heard that's even buggier than SL. I've tried it and found that as the years wore on lag seemed to increase too.
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hateful much? dude, that was low. die.

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11-14-2008 07:44
From: Conan Godwin
Isn't there any way that we can use violence to achieve this?


You know violence never solves anything. It does, however make things more entertaining.
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11-14-2008 07:45
From: Conan Godwin
Well, we could all migrate to real life but I heard that's even buggier than SL. I've tried it and found that as the years wore on lag seemed to increase too.

But it is easier to keep the griefers away. Usually one blast from my shotgun does the trick. And they can't make alts.
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11-14-2008 07:46
From: Brenda Connolly
You know violence never solves anything. It does, however make things more entertaining.


Violence is a lot like laundry detergent; if it doesn't solve the problem then you're not using enough of it.

From: Brenda Connolly
And they can't make alts.


Buddhists would disagree with you.
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hateful much? dude, that was low. die.

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11-14-2008 07:47
From: Brenda Connolly
And they can't make alts.
You're not living on the right sink estate, Brenda. Plenty of little alts running around on some of those. In fact, those little alts *are* the griefers.

*tsk* Kids today.
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11-14-2008 08:21
From: Brenda Connolly
You know violence never solves anything. It does, however make things more entertaining.



" Anyone who clings to the historically untrue -- and thoroughly immoral -- doctrine that `violence never settles anything' I would advise to conjure up the ghosts of Napoleon Bonaparte and of the Duke of Wellington and let them debate it. The ghost of Hitler could referee, and the jury might well be the Dodo, the Great Auk, and the Passenger Pigeon. Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor, and the contrary opinion is wishful thinking at its worst. Breeds that forget this basic truth have always paid for it with their lives and freedoms."
Robert Heinlein, Starship Troopers
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11-14-2008 08:43
From: Amaranthim Talon
" Anyone who clings to the historically untrue -- and thoroughly immoral -- doctrine that `violence never settles anything' I would advise to conjure up the ghosts of Napoleon Bonaparte and of the Duke of Wellington and let them debate it. The ghost of Hitler could referee, and the jury might well be the Dodo, the Great Auk, and the Passenger Pigeon. Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor, and the contrary opinion is wishful thinking at its worst. Breeds that forget this basic truth have always paid for it with their lives and freedoms."
Robert Heinlein, Starship Troopers
US science fiction author (1907 - 1988)


I think I love you. *flowers*

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11-14-2008 08:46
From Steely Dan


When Black Friday comes
I'll stand down by the door
And catch the gray men
When they dive from the fourteenth floor
When Black Friday comes
I'll collect everything I'm owed
And before my friends find out
I'll be on the road
When Black Friday falls you know it's got to be
Don't let it fall on me


When Black Friday comes
I'll fly down to Muswellbrook
Gonna strike all the big red words
From my little black book
Gonna do just what I please
Gonna wear no socks and shoes
With nothing to do
But feed all the Kangaroos
When Black Friday comes I'll be on that hill
You know I will

When Black Friday comes
I'm gonna dig myself a hole
Gonna lay down in it
'Til I satisfy my soul
Gonna let the world pass by me
The Archbishop gonna sanctify me
And if he don't come across
I'm gonna let it roll
When Black Friday comes I'm gonna stake my claim
I guess I'll change my name
Alisha Matova
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11-14-2008 08:59
/me holds up lit lighter high.
Lias Leandros
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11-14-2008 09:28
And we are back after that commercial break. Blog your sorrows away and post the link to your blog in your profile.

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http:blogger.com
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Conan Godwin
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11-14-2008 09:54
From: Amaranthim Talon
" Anyone who clings to the historically untrue -- and thoroughly immoral -- doctrine that `violence never settles anything' I would advise to conjure up the ghosts of Napoleon Bonaparte and of the Duke of Wellington and let them debate it. The ghost of Hitler could referee, and the jury might well be the Dodo, the Great Auk, and the Passenger Pigeon. Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor, and the contrary opinion is wishful thinking at its worst. Breeds that forget this basic truth have always paid for it with their lives and freedoms."
Robert Heinlein, Starship Troopers
US science fiction author (1907 - 1988)


And of course, the USA is built on the premise that violence is the appropriate means for changing government tax policy.

Other principles of the founding fathers are; a) black people suck, b) women suck and c) people who don't own land suck.
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hateful much? dude, that was low. die.

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11-14-2008 10:01
From: Conan Godwin
And of course, the USA is built on the premise that violence is the appropriate means for changing government tax policy.

Other principles of the founding fathers are; a) black people suck, b) women suck and c) people who don't own land suck.


Lemme tell you Sonny Jim. Owning land is not all it's cranked up to be. They've changed it, now not owning land is cool. Why pay taxes to do things like educate your kids, when the land owners can do it for you?
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11-14-2008 10:07
From: Brenda Connolly
Lemme tell you Sonny Jim. Owning land is not all it's cranked up to be. They've changed it, now not owning land is cool. Why pay taxes to do things like educate your kids, when the land owners can do it for you?


I'm confused now; do black people and women still suck then?
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hateful much? dude, that was low. die.

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11-14-2008 10:09
From: Conan Godwin
I'm confused now; do black people and women still suck then?



Only in certain States.
Lias Leandros
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11-14-2008 10:20
Wow. What a sad attempt to get the thread closed.

Connecting blogs of dissent is such an effective idea I see Torley picked up on the idea. After I posted that idea here I see now when we log into SL that there is a ad to go to torley's site and add your blog link. Seems the idea hit a nerve. Effective ideas usually do.

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Conan Godwin
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11-14-2008 10:22
From: Lias Leandros
Wow. What a sad attempt to get the thread closed.

Connecting blogs of dissent is such an effective idea I see Torley picked up on the idea. After I posted that idea here I see now when we log into SL that there is a ad to go to torley's site and add your blog link. Seems the idea hit a nerve. Effective ideas usually do.

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The thread doesn't need closing, it was finished at post number 2 and has been banter ever since.
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Lias Leandros
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11-14-2008 10:28
Conan has proclaimed himself the moderator.

Some stay on topic. Some don't. I think the banterers need to go to a chatroom and banter away.

The BLACK FRIDAY OP

From: Tiffani Turbo
What would happen if we all picked a day and converted all our Lindens into cash and then removed it all from SL? Just for a few days to further our protest against the mismanagement of the OpenSpace sims?
It was suggested that this would not be effective. Then some suggested that the most effective protest would be to delete their accounts. I disagreed and suggested everyone should blog in as many languages as possible about what they feel is wrong here - and attach links to each other's blogs. The effort could be entitled 100 BLOGS OF DISSENT.Then the nonsense started.

Now we can go back to the original subject if you do not mind. Thanks.

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Conan Godwin
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11-14-2008 10:29
From: Lias Leandros

Now we can go back to the original subject if you do not mind. Thanks.

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You can if you want, the rest of us will do as we please since you have no authority here. Thanks for dropping by though.
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hateful much? dude, that was low. die.

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11-14-2008 10:48
From: Lias Leandros
Wow. What a sad attempt to get the thread closed.

Connecting blogs of dissent is such an effective idea I see Torley picked up on the idea. After I posted that idea here I see now when we log into SL that there is a ad to go to torley's site and add your blog link. Seems the idea hit a nerve. Effective ideas usually do.

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Sorry, you don't get to take credit for that. Vint Falken announced the mix and match thing before the open space announcement.
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11-14-2008 10:54
Not taking credit. Just stating that it was such a good idea that even the Lindens are now advertising it. So it cannot be knocked down like the other ideas about organized protesting were. Linking blogs of dissent that would be seen all over the world and updated as often as possible would be very effective to let Linden Lab know its customer base is VERY unhappy about things. .

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11-14-2008 11:22
Lias,
Are you trying to fill as much screen space as possible with those banners? Honestly, I do not mind banners, after all I use one myself. But your postings tend to fill up half my screen with just the banners, leaving not much room to read what you have to say ;)

Furthermore, withdrawing as much money as we can sucks, that has already been determined. Getting people organized to blog about the Linden policies, seems quite an effort too, but I wish you luck. On a side note, I doubt it would have any effect. LL does as they see fit, and so far SL improved compared to a year ago. So they are not doing that bad a job. And however I still hate their decision about the OS sims, I still am pleased with the company for providing SL.
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11-14-2008 11:45
From: Marcel Flatley
Lias,
Are you trying to fill as much screen space as possible with those banners?
LOL. Sorry. I am not much of a Photoshop artist. To be truthful I make these on powerpoint. I will try to re-size them more.

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I still hate their decision about the OS sims, I still am pleased with the company for providing SL.
I like my iPhone but I am not going to sit back and allow that company to rip me off without making quite a bit of noise also.


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