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Pserendipity Daniels
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08-28-2009 09:43
From: Lindal Kidd
/me wanders off humming "Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is? Does Anybody Really Caaaaare..."
CTA answered that themselves.

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08-28-2009 09:45
From: Clarissa Lowell
If we have to get used to liters you can remember those two things. /joke
Litres /serious

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08-28-2009 09:48
From: Pserendipity Daniels
Litres /serious

Pep (gets drunk faster drinking metrically.)

Is it seriously "liters" in the US? By analogy with things like "centre / center"?
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08-28-2009 09:49
Yes we spell it "liters." As with most things the British spell "re" - although we accept either spelling as acceptable. "theater/theatre" for example.

We still mostly use quart, gallon, pint, etc. Bottled water comes in liters.

No wonder we are so confused.
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08-28-2009 10:06
From: Clarissa Lowell
We still mostly use quart, gallon, pint, etc. Bottled water comes in liters.

Don't forget that that US fluid measures, while using the same names as the UK Imperial measures, are different. One US pint is 16 US fluid ounces. One Imperial pint is 20 Imperial fluid ounces. One US fluid ounce is 0.96076 Imperial fluid ounces. I think.
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08-28-2009 10:08
From: EF Klaar
Don't forget that that US fluid measures, while using the same names as the UK Imperial measures, are different. One US pint is 16 US fluid ounces. One Imperial pint is 20 Imperial fluid ounces. One US fluid ounce is 0.96076 Imperial fluid ounces. I think.

/me is sooooooo glad she never had to learn this stuff.

Now maybe someone can explain guineas, pounds, crowns, shillings, pence, and farthings?
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08-28-2009 10:10
From: EF Klaar
Don't forget that that US fluid measures, while using the same names as the UK Imperial measures, are different. One US pint is 16 US fluid ounces. One Imperial pint is 20 Imperial fluid ounces. One US fluid ounce is 0.96076 Imperial fluid ounces. I think.
That's why you think you can hold your drink over there better than us.

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08-28-2009 10:10
Didn't know that EF. Thanks!

To be honest I still have to stop and think what all those (American units) really mean, too. Not that it matters much, unless I were to become an alchemist.
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08-28-2009 10:42
From: Scylla Rhiadra
Now maybe someone can explain guineas, pounds, crowns, shillings, pence, and farthings?

1 guinea is 21s/- (shillings) or £1/1s/-. £1 is 20s/-. 1 crown was 5s/-, though the comemorative crowns issued by the Royal Mint these days have a face value of £5. 1s is 12d (something Latin involved there). 1d (old pence) is 0.41666666666666666666666666666667p (new pence). One fathing is 0.25d. And you forgot to mention the half-crown at 2s/6d, the florin at 2s/- (10p) and the groat at 4d.

Shall I explain the rules of cricket next?

:)
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08-28-2009 10:48
Didn't you forget the ha'penny?

When they did the conversion in Australia, sixpence became 5c, a shilling became 10c, and a penny became 1c.

The obvious minor larceny this enabled was immediately clear to us kids, especially since back then a penny could actually buy a piece of candy.
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08-28-2009 10:49
From: EF Klaar
1 guinea is 21s/- (shillings) or £1/1s/-. £1 is 20s/-. 1 crown was 5s/-, though the comemorative crowns issued by the Royal Mint these days have a face value of £5. 1s is 12d (something Latin involved there). 1d (old pence) is 0.41666666666666666666666666666667p (new pence). One fathing is 0.25d. And you forgot to mention the half-crown at 2s/6d, the florin at 2s/- (10p) and the groat at 4d.

Ack. Thanks! I've never heard of a florin (in an English context, anyway), and I'd forgotten about the groat, which I think I've seen mentioned only rarely?

From: EF Klaar
Shall I explain the rules of cricket next?

Heh, no thanks. My understanding is that to do so would probably take as long as a typical match.

I had a difficult enough time getting my head around the rules of baseball. And I STILL don't understand American/Canadian football. (Mercifully)
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08-28-2009 10:51
From: Scylla Rhiadra

I had a difficult enough time getting my head around the rules of baseball. And I STILL don't understand American/Canadian football. (Mercifully)


Baseball - run around a diamond and try not to get tagged.

Football - run back and forth on a huge grassy field and try not to get knocked down.

Oh and make millions of dollars for it. And get a sponsorship to sell cereal and shoes.
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08-28-2009 11:00
From: Argent Stonecutter
Didn't you forget the ha'penny?

I did, and I apologise. Should I mention the tanner (6d) and the thrupenny bit (3d) too?

And the double florin (4s/-).
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08-28-2009 11:04
From: EF Klaar
I did, and I apologise. Should I mention the tanner (6d) and the thrupenny bit (3d) too?

Thank god for decimalization !!

From: Clarissa Lowell
Football - run back and forth on a huge grassy field and try not to get knocked down.

Yeah, that's my impression. But it also seems to involve a lot of vaguely homoerotic touching, patting, and squeezing. A part of the whole male bonding thing, do you think?
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08-28-2009 11:05
From: Scylla Rhiadra
But it also seems to involve a lot of vaguely homoerotic touching, patting, and squeezing. A part of the whole male bonding thing, do you think?


Lol, we'll let them keep claiming so.

Don't forget the naked towel snaps!
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08-28-2009 11:11
From: Clarissa Lowell
Don't forget the naked towel snaps!

Yeah, that's another male thing I REALLY don't get. I mean . . . OUCH!
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08-28-2009 11:12
From: Clarissa Lowell
Baseball - run around a diamond and try not to get tagged.

Football - run back and forth on a huge grassy field and try not to get knocked down.
Correction:

Baseball: Rounders for boys

Football: Rugby for wimps.

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08-28-2009 11:20
From: Scylla Rhiadra
But it also seems to involve a lot of vaguely homoerotic touching, patting, and squeezing.
You should see what the bowler in a cricket match does with his balls.
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08-28-2009 11:28
From: Lias Leandros
LOL. Next you will talking some nonsense about the metric system.


We should adopt a metric clock,
where one (metric) tick = 0.0864 old-style seconds.
1000 ticks in a kilotick
1000 kiloticks in a day (one megatick).

From: Pussycat Catnap
Since when has the 12-hour clock been limited to the USA?

Canada is often forgotten.

From: Sling Trebuchet
The days of the month should be numbered from 13 up.
That would resolve the ambiguity of the numeric date formats.


I've written to the Nobel Committee to recommend you for a special prize.

We should also extend that idea to abolish all years numbered less than 31.

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Scylla Rhiadra
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08-28-2009 11:36
From: Seven Okelli
Canada is often forgotten.

*sigh* Yeah. Although sometimes that's a godsend.
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08-28-2009 11:48
From: Seven Okelli
We should adopt a metric clock,
where one (metric) tick = 0.0864 old-style seconds.
1000 ticks in a kilotick
1000 kiloticks in a day (one megatick).
Nah, keep the second, abandon the day.

Measure time in kiloseconds (about 1/4 hour) and megaseconds (close enough to 12 days).

If we get a viable space-based civilization it'll happen.
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08-28-2009 11:53
@ OP
PM = Post Meridian (after the middle)... since noon marks the middle of the day, anything, even one nanosecond past it would be PM (and by logical extension, midnight would work similarly, but opposite) or to look at it another way, midnight would also the the zero hour, so it would be before the middle of the day.
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EF Klaar
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08-28-2009 11:54
From: Seven Okelli
We should adopt a metric clock,
where one (metric) tick = 0.0864 old-style seconds.
1000 ticks in a kilotick
1000 kiloticks in a day (one megatick)

So would 12 a.m. be 0 or 1 megaticks? Or do I mean 12 p.m.?
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08-28-2009 12:22
From: Scylla Rhiadra
Ack. Thanks! I've never heard of a florin (in an English context, anyway)

The florin is one of the most used old name for money and had a different falue from city to city, the monutairy sign for the dutch guilder was fl to houner this.
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08-28-2009 12:26
From: Abigail Merlin
The florin is one of the most used old name for money and had a different falue from city to city, the monutairy sign for the dutch guilder was fl to houner this.
I thought that was to honor the Florin-Guilder fire swamp.
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