Left or Right?

I have been thinking of how our political and social backgrounds and opinions can become key and crucial to our SL world and how we dominate it or use this world according to our backgrounds. Are we as liberal as we might like to think or do we bring our prejudices and our reactionary attitudes to bear in this community? Do we simply pay lip service to a liberal series of values or are we, at heart, essentially a moral majority that disapproves rather than condones excessively "free" behaviour?

Do SLers tend to be liberal-minded or favour conservative opinions. In this poll, I use "left-wing" to denote socialist tendencies with firm (or moderate) support of issues such as "women's right to choose", gay marriage, a stronger feminine influence in the church, and all other key issues today that are debated in North American and European societies in particular.

Select "Right-wing" if you lean towards a more conservative stance against many of these key points or are NOT in favour of them. "Left-wing" covers Labour supporters and Democrats (I suppose).

I have NOT allowed for a "centre" Humpty-Dumpty-Bum-on-Wall viewpoint. Add any comments as you see fit.

Finally, how do our values in these regards impact the virtual world we know and love?

I consider myself a true liberal in the same way that Frank Zappa was a true conservative, which doesn't have anything to do with Democrats or any other political party that's only liberal on the surface and then only when it's politically convenient. Or you might say I am like most Americans, socially liberal and fiscally conservative. I wouldn't call that a socialist tendency, but I understand what you are saying. For me it really all comes down to people trying to control other people, and that happens regardless of the political party.

Second Life is the perfect venue for expressing liberalism or conservatism alike. There is really no way some Cro-Magnon with a gun can force you into his way of doing things -- unless that's what you want. AND you can mute finger pointers who think they are taking the moral high ground.

My sincere hope is that virtual worlds will someday make the unabashed hubris of people controlling others (who don't want to be controlled) go the way of the dodo. But I know I'm dreaming. There's always going to be some officious puke trying to control you.

Can't answer this, left/right is an inadequate measure of political views. You need at least three axes, maybe more. An establishmentarian progressive might not want to be bundled with a green atheist, but both of them are likely to be categorized as leftist.

No pie?

"shit that makes sense" (to me)

more personal choice (AND personal responsibility), more tolerance of differences (and LESS cherry picking or what's defended and what isn't), and less government interference/sanctioning of personal lives.

I'd say that makes me damn-near a neo-anarchist...

most people say it make me crazy.

X - Other. =^-^=

Oh, wait.. you're talking politics! I thought you were talking about hands! See, I'm left-handed....

I have to go with left, because I'm more liberal in my social views, while my spending is more conservative.

It's a cool OP, but I don't think there is a left and a right wing anymore.

Both sides offer versions of freedom and both sides can be oppressive.

For example I've always seen anarchy as hard core conservative in spirit.


But still it's a cool Op.

You asked me to take the poll Jig - I never take polls but it's just as well, since you have left out what I would've said.

I am not left and I am not right. I'd call myself Moderate, and I wouldn't call it bum on wall. Lol.

You said to comment instead if that were the case so here's my comment.

Both sides have their rights and wrongs.
And coming from a country where there's usually about 20 parties in a variety of flavours during elections, 2 or 3 three usually forming the government, and 6 or 7 more having enough weight to actually be able to influence what's happening, I still never manage to completely agree with any one of them.
So I tend to consider myself "central". At times even a-political, because there are always topics where I can't agree with any one of them, which has made me forfeit my vote a few times already.

Generally left-ish but the existing political parties and organisations of 't3h left' give me the heebeegeebees just as bad as the parties of 't3h right'. Given the current structures of social organisation, political parties are a logical outcome and vehicle for public expression and action but I have no stomach for any of them. When I vote it's almost always tactical voting rather than any form of party or ideological loyalty.


Won't Get Fooled Again [The Who]

We'll be fighting in the streets
With our children at our feet
And the morals that they worship will be gone
And the men who spurred us on
Sit in judgment of all wrong
They decide and the shotgun sings the song

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again

The change it had to come
We knew it all along
We were liberated from the fold, that's all
And the world looks just the same
And history ain't changed
'Cause the banners, they all flown in the last war

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
No, no!

I'll move myself and my family aside
If we happen to be left half alive
I'll get all my papers and smile at the sky
For I know that the hypnotized never lie
Do ya?

Yeah!

There's nothing in the streets
Looks any different to me
And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye
And the parting on the left
Is now parting on the right
And the beards have all grown longer overnight

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
Don't get fooled again
No, no!

Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss

I'm generally middle ground with a left slant as politics goes here, but I figure by most American standards it makes me a glowing red, socialistic commie menace to society.

and I thought it was about which side a gentleman dresses as Jig posted it

Personally I am not a political person as to me it doesn't matter who is in power, they all cock it up eventually as they become self serving to themselves and their personal agendas and forget why they were elected in the first place to serve the people in the best way possible.

Just my thoughts though

You mean in SL?

Where do You Stand Politically/Socially?

( ) Left-Wing or Leaning That Way

( ) Right-Wing or Leaning That Way

(X) This poll blows and don't compartmentalize people into binary left or right political buffoonery

is "innocent bystander" an acceptable political view yet?

Where do I stand politically/socially? As far away as possible from anyone who is a politician, and even further from anyone who is a socialist.

Pep (Socialism is predicated on the support of the weak; that ain't the way it works in rl, so ultimately failure is guaranteed, qv USSR.)

I wonder when silly people will learn to think in more than one diimension.
Left and right is no different to A & B.
please list all the major parties and social groups left or right status, so we knw whether people who like to fish or go to movies are left or right?

In SL and RL I'm left-of centre, so I set the boundaries quite wide. However, I believe in penalties for people who overstep those boundaries.

Left and Right are a bit simplistic in this day and age. I'm British, so to me the US Republican and Democrat parties are both right-wing, though Obama might be changing that now. It's getting to be the same here - the Conservatives and Labour are both right-of-centre now.

I used to be on the right until I was forced out of that party under pressure for my moderate beliefs (literally, told to get out or shut up by the Republican leadership, even though I was chairing two local elected boards at the time). Now I'm on the centrist left side.

Alright, laugh all you like, when I registered it was with the Peace and Freedom Party. LOL! I tend to vote Indy or Dem, as outside local elections they don't or didn't have contenders.

Here I vote Labour or Green.

I see the voting as a chore and the doing is my bread and butter.

Agreed.


No option for Anarchist either.

This!!!
I consider myself and anarchist at heart. I very much wd like government and sanctimonious do-gooders to leave me the hell alone. I won't bug you - don't bug me sort of thing.

You ask about social things like gay marriage, church and women's right to choose - I think you shd be legally allowed to marry or have a legal binding contract regardless of what you call it with all its attendant rights and responsibilities with what ever consenting adult or adults. The church should also mind its own business, which thankfully here, for the most part they do- and people worship or not as they see fit- as frankly I cannot imagine a Supreme Being would give a dang if he/she/it is worshipped or not- seems terribly needy you know?

And finally right to life/abortion - It is my opinion - not humble in any way - just my opinion regardless of who agrees or disagrees - that you really have no right once you are pregnant - that that choice was taken out of your hands. It is legal in this country and some argue that it prevents back alley abortions, that there are reasons such as illness or rape or what have you, for it to remain legal- those are cases I honestly woud have to consider further how I feel. The 'cosmetic' or sometimes casual choice that is made- notice CASUAL OK? abortion -that I very definitely am against. Since I am not Queen of the Wordl the attendant consequences of delagalizing it are not my concern - this is just MY OPINION. Agree, disagree what ever, matter not at all to me.

Oh, and I would legalize marijuana and prostitution - I equate pot with alcohol and one is legal so why not the other - And sex as a crime just seems some moron's attempt to further control people.


OK- 'nuf- too early for all this - carry on.

I didn't vote though- not enough choices- I am obviously not a conservative but by no means some left leaning socialist.

What he said.

Hitler and Stalin, Obama and Bush are all closer to together than I am to any of them.

You have to consider that personal views and political views do not always parallel. Personally, I am quite traditional and conservative, but in regards to other people, I don't care what they do as long as they do not use force or fraud against another.

This is funny, I consider both the Repuclicrats and the Democans to both be Socialist/Fascist.