Silver Threads and Iron Chains

Pure logic.

Pep (You *are* confused aren't you!)

How do you discount what a person has to say just because it is not spelled correctly or presented in a manner that you deem proper. That speaks volumes for the type of person you are. No ones words should be discounted simply because they speak or spell the word improperly. The errors they make do not render their message or opinion any less valid or real. To judge that their words have less value because of those errors is elitist, conceited, arrogant, rude and downright snobbish.

Hi Briana. You already conceded your argument with me.

Pep (Charly too)

lolwut?

Surely you must have a black book where you pencil in your intarwebz forum victories because if you keep this up you will without a doubt win the internets.

I guess that is what we call AVOIDANCE.

Prove it., break it down and show me.

Emotional arguments can be logical and valid.. yours are not even arguments.



This is purely stating an emotional belief. It is not an argument.

Prove me wrong and I will apologize for calling 'emotional'

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Jig, sorry for derailing the thread. Seven pages is long enought.. no?

The argument is logical. If you can not understand the logic as it is simply stated then there is no point in further explanation.

Pep (The emoticon doesn't help your cause either)

Quoting yourself? LOL! Here is another of your quotes.


Pep (I don't need to win it again you see - you have already conceded it to me)

Now, see...

THIS is how you concede a point.

/me grins..

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Yes. Obfuscation and derailment - obvious avoidance tactics.

Point made.

See ya.

Can anyone else see the fun Pep is having here? (O.o)

Accuse him for emotional/judgmental responses all you want. I'm sure he's having a good laugh. =^-^=

But that would make him a huge... I see your point.

Ssssssh Immy! Some people here are taking this thread *very* seriously.

Pep (I was until Love conceded my point - a long time ago)

:: sigh :: minor spelling errors, the last nitpick of people that want to feel intellectually superior, yet can't address what's actually being discussed. 'I think" and "I believe" are purely emotional arguments unless you actually SUPPORT them with facts. saying "well, if you don't know, I'm not telling you" is what children do when they don't actually have a good answer, but want to look like they know all... is that REALLY the angle you were shooting for? come on now, really?

No, it is only 'supposed to' look that way, but it really is not that way because he is just toying with us like a cat slapping a ball of yarn. Don't you know how popular it is to come across like a huge intellectual pompous individual on purpose to make the other people you are being pompous to feel absolutely intellectually inferior and not worthy of your great wisdom and infallible logic? It is such THE THING to do, dah-ling, it makes for mah-velous sport and terrible fits of laughter, do try when you have the chance and feel the pep (literally).

Bri (also thinking about how !#@!#$ it looks to try and make cutesy snide or snarky remarks after signing your name)

Maybe I can give a bit of a serious response then. (^_^)

I don't believe that there is slavery in SL at all, including Gor. It's all role play, and an escape from our vanilla, day-to-day routine. (^_^)

The means of escaping slavery in RL was/is typically fatal. So, the human and humane decision to make is normally to shun and prohibit it for the hope of a greater good in society. But, while play-acting, there is no major humane dilemma. Particularly online. Where escape is marked with a [Ctrl]+Q. (^_^)

I have a dolly. She's not an orthodox by a long shot. But she's a toy for me to play with. She enjoys being objectified and manipulated. And, she's often willing and wanting to go farther than I'm able to take her. But, in the end, we have fun together. And, that's just it... Fun. If you're not having it, move on and find something else to enjoy for your own sake. (^_^)y

*wades in*

D/s relationships are all around you, That of you and your employer or employee's for instance. Even a "normal" relationship has elements of a D/s relationship, or how about you and a group of friends, ever noticed that there is one who tends to lead and the others follow?

Yes I know sometimes roles change in these relationships, but they can in D/s ones as well, we call it 'switching'.

A BDSM D/s relationship is merely a formalised version of a "normal" relationship.

For many in SL BDSM/Gor/slavery is merely a way of getting rough pixel sex, but for some it is far more about the mental bond that is formed between the Dominant and the submissive.

A thought for you to ponder, who is serves more in a D/s relationship, the Dominant or the submissive?

Keep talking ladies. You remind me of the uncivilised tribes who shot their bows and arrows at passing airplanes high above and then had victory celebrations to celebrate chasing them away.

Pep (I made my point a long time ago and Love conceded it)

That makes two of us at least.. but I am not laughing WITH him.

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I would like to point out that a D/s relationship with another person is a giving relationship - in both directions. It is a power exchange given freely. While an employer/employee relationship is a power exchange where power is taken. Given versus taken.

When talking about BDSM, we are really talking about sexual power exchanges (whether there's sex or not). That's not the workplace.

Hey, nice that you value my opinion so much! Don't worry - I live for yours too.

No, a work place relationship the power is exchanged by agreement, you agreed to work there or hire the person didn't you?

D/s is more than just sex btw

The point I am trying to make is that D/s in the BDSM context is merely a formalised arrangement of what we see around us with just about any relationship.

I prefer AA guns and missles; both sadly lacking in this place....

... besides it's a bad anology if you're gonna still be buzzing around like a gnat

... but it's good for the target practice anyways

(see I can play this game too... weeeeeeeee :: swat :: )

While the differentiation is obvious at times, in other cases it just takes experience - experience that you've said you don't want to have.

And no, implied understanding doesn't mean guesswork. It comes from learning the culture. That doesn't mean that everyone who participates has a correct understanding of everything that's implied, but it's not that difficult to learn the basics. It's simply not necessary to spell out all the exceptions, except for beginners.