land prices on mainland?

As someone who has recently bought in Nova Albion and picked up another Bay City plot, I think there's still some desirable locations out there.

Desire is in the eye of the beholder, or something like that!

There are sims where I'll pay more than the average price because I like those sims. Nova Albion and Bay City are way too posh for me however

You misunderstand me in part.

I'm saying that, at present, mainland is all about equally valuable with other mainland.

- Barring the exception of double prim areas that I didn't think of before. Even protected land really doesn't have greater value anymore, as mainland is so vacant. For commercial reasons, other than double prims, one piece of mainland is as good as another - proximity doesn't mean what it might have meant a few years ago. Today's SL is mostly on the estates, and users increasingly TP around rather than walk.

As for mainland versus estate - yes, you can make arguments about which is more valuable. But that isn't the topic here.

@Pussycat, I have to disagree with you even with your clarification.

People who want a particular type of mainland will be willing to pay more. Areas that are more sought after than others are beach/water/snow combined with the view being protected. Those still have high prices comparatively and people are still willing for pay more for them. Desirability of mainland doesn't just come down to how many prims you have. It really does hinge on personal preference and what you are looking for being available.

Just wondering ... when did snow land become attractive? Beach land I expect to be valuable -- never liked it myself, since I grew up in Florida and had quite enough humidity and palm trees in RL, but I understand that other people hanker after it the way I do after foothills and forests. But when I first started buying land, there was a glut of snow sims and prices were down there with bare rock, suitable only for building skyboxes. When did that change?

According to the prices, you are dead wrong on this one. I can go grab some blah land locked mainland for 1.5-2.0 per sqm, but I cannot touch beachfront, with or without a protected ocean sim, for less that 7-8 per sqm and quite often closer to 10-15 per sqm.

Seconded.

I went on a splurge of selling and buying our group land in the past few weeks. Most of the land was protected oceanfront.

First on sale was 7856m in the SE of Nebo sim. This has Linden ocean on the East and South, with kinrara island to the SE. Big parcels, even on protected ocean can be a problem. Smaller parcels are more marketable. It went for 8.27/m - which was a bit low. The dealer who snapped it up cut 512's on the S and E edges. These went to another dealer who is sitting on them at huge prices. The main corner, with a triangle of Linden water cut from it, and the internal parcels without a boundary on Linden water remain on resale by the original dealer the last I looked.

Next to sell was the SE corner of Eldfell, with Linden ocean on the S boundary. That went as a 4096 on the water for 9.77/m and two internal 1024's at 7.32/m.
Across the sim boundary on the East, 3072m land-locked in Katla went as three 1024's at 5.86, 6.35 and 6.84/m.
Then South of that two 512s in the NW of Kuttara with the narrow boundaries on Linden ocean went for 17.58/m - to a dealer who is asking more
Then 4096 in the W of Eldfell went as a 2048 on Linden ocean at 9.77/m and a 2048 that it separated from ocean at 5.37/m
Then the 8192 SW of Eldfell, with oceans to S, SW and W went at 24.65/m. This was a little OTT in the current market as the buyers were now on a roll buying up the sim

Coming down from the heights of parcel meters, but not quality, I sold a little isolated 368m plot at 21.74/m. This was a low price for an exceptional parcel - albeit with a prim 'issue'. Triple-protected triangle!! I have kinda mixed feelings about selling it, but I rarely used it. Like all our land, it was open to all to use, but not enough strangers came across it. It was a nice quiet place to meditate or chat.

While I was on a roll, I traded a few more roadside, waterside and railside parcels.


At the end of it all, we ended up with
- The main protected oceanfront parcels consolidated to 19,000m in a single sim - with an island and two Linden waterways running through it and around the island
- A collection of roadside rezzing parcels spread all over Sansara - two on junctions
- A roadside and a railside in Hetrocera
- A parcel wit the Linden protected snow sims on a boundary.
- 5k of double-prim Zindra protecteed oceanfront
- L$250,000 cash -- up from 0

A few weeks ago, I was all psyched up to *abandon* all bar three 512s of the land out of sheer disgust at LL's mismanagement of the traffic-bot situation and the Zindra migration. An epiphany! My passion for SL had become a disgust.

It's a funny old world. I was *that close* to simply abandoning half-a-sim's worth of prime land.
Then stuff happened that made be feel better - and a sweet deal arose on buying that 19,000m of protected waterfront.



Anyhoo, after all that rambling.....
Smaller parcels with protected ocean from should be getting 10 to 15/m.
Larger parcels with protected ocean might only get 10-ish.
Smaller protected roadside should be getting about 10/m
This thing about "land" (i.e. square metres) being worth only 2/m or under only applies to land-locked desert.
I sold some of our oceanfront a bit low - but that was easy to do considering that I had been prepared to abandon it on principle. However the lows were compensated for overall by the highs.

The tier for any sort of mainland is the same regardless. The ongoing tier is the major cost involved. Buy *decent* land now. It's a great time to do so. Don't buy the 2/m stuff unless you live in the sky and have no interest in what is below.
My group ended up with really great land and a bucket of cash sort of by accident... but it was due to us starting from a base of superior land.

I cannot speak for any time before my rezz date or before I started being involved in looking at land prices but as far as I have seen snow land has always been priced higher than bare rock. Not everyone wants beach, or they have beach but want a place for winter activities. Some of the snow land in the original continent has amazing water views and if you can snag a parcel beside a protected river or road the value again rises just like with beach.
There are some very flat snow land areas just as there are the more interestingly shape places on the sides of mountains and a who spectrum of places in between.
If you have only seen snow land that is suitable for skyboxes then you either don't mean the snow land I mean or you haven't seen some of the nicer snow land.

This pretty much tallies with my experience also.

Observation:

A week or so ago there were six or eight 512's sitting quietly on the available list @ 1.6$L/M. Thay stayed there for several days. I happened to find a placid green 512 on a gentle slope, surrounded by homes with no ugliness or banlines inview for 1.4$l/m. Although I barely beat out one other person for the property, the significant thing is that no bots were apparently interested at that price.

Soon thereafter the lowest available prices began to rise again. As of last night, the lowest-priced mainland 512s listed were at $L2.1/m.

Prices seem to have bottomed and recovered slightly for the moment.

All of my land is roadside protected, and I bought it for 1.9 to 3 per sqm depending. On my sim, there is still a 512 roadside protected plot for 1500L - just under 3.

Older computer, poor graphics card -- I don't see much of anything outside my home sim.

That makes sense, but it sounds there like you're talking about snow land that's valuable because of the same "extras" that make any land valuable: water views, protected borders, roadside, etc. The earlier post sounded like it was saying snow land was more valuable simply because it was snow; that's what I found surprising.

Well you are right in that those extras increase the desirability of all land but if you want snow land then snow land even without those extras is going to be where you are headed just as there are people who want beach and beach is more prized to them even without the protected sides. However if you don't want beach then beach prices probably seem over the top.
To people who don't want snow land though, snow land would be no better than just ordinary green land except that people who build on snow land, like beach land tend to try to make something that fits with the theme - at least that has been my observation though obviously there are exceptions (beach huts and beach builds, winter chalets and snow builds). Ordinary green tends to get treated as prim experimentation land more often I think just because it is so cheap and more available.

Snow land is rare compared to other types of mainland too, even beach is more available as there is an entire continent that has great beach textures, not so with snow - there is just one main area on the original mainland really afaik and so rarity adds to desirability.

*nods* That's what I was wondering about, because I remember there being more snow land than people who wanted snow land. I know they've added a lot more beach and green land since, but I'd have thought all the people buying their own estates would have offset that, since they can choose their own land type.

I have snow land in Larsson, I agree that land owners for the most part do build homes and businesses that fits with the theme. Also coastline on these snow sims are priced significantly. There are plenty of lots available on I believe on the sim next to mine, Belinge or something like that.

I've owned my lost in Larsson for over 2 years now and it is very stable. I believe an rl religious organization owns 97% of the sim. In fact it is featured in showcase, I believe St. George's church is that its called. Myself and I believe 3 others own has the rest.

I love living near water and I'm starting to look around for coastal land on the snow sims for sailing. For me I view it as my winter vacation home. I know there is a tendency to trash the snow sims, but I believe the opposite. The surroundings sims around Larsson are very nice.

Thanks for that snapped one so now there's 2 .I have been flying roads for weeks.

Welcome to the neighborhood. I believe that makes 3 of us on that sim now... Maybe 4, somebody's building something across the road from me today...

The only other person owns a large lot behind me and has a castle in the sky - but he's only around maybe once a week. All the other owned land is owned by people who I have never seen visit their plots.

Yes, this is part of the appeal of the snow lands on the original continent--as with the majority of builds on that continent, there is attention to detail. You see very few giant neon cubes floating in the air and that sort of thing.

Snow land has another appeal: to people who live in very hot climates, it can be very refreshing to spend time in a snowscape.

(Personally, I live in a climate that has daily highs in the nineties [F] for about seven months of the year, and I LOVE my little corner of virtual snow and ice.)

I love snow land but it is hard to find. I hope to have a snow lot or maybe an island or sim where I can change the ground texture, by Christmas time (but if not, oh well - I will likely be busy anyway!)

It just seems fun to decorate such parcels.

It really is Clarissa and I am going to send you the link to the sim that is in front of Larsson that has several lots for sale.

Thanks sable!