the solution if learning how to tell people to leave you alone when you dont repond right away.
A good one is to "accidently" Mispost sexual content things to them when they IM you when you are busy ..
They will get embarrassed and in the future if you don't respond to their IM they will think your getting Busy when it says you're busy.
And all those insistent type ims will vanish forever.
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Colette Meiji
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Imogen Saltair
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09-23-2008 00:07
the solution if learning how to tell people to leave you alone when you dont repond right away. A good one is to "accidently" Mispost sexual content things to them when they IM you when you are busy .. They will get embarrassed and in the future if you don't respond to their IM they will think your getting Busy when it says you're busy. And all those insistent type ims will vanish forever. /me giggles.... that's a cute idea Colette... I like it... It reminds me of the most serious and embarrassing mispost i ever saw. Spoken in open chat in a chat channel in irc... several rather prudish people in the chat room.... the ensuing silence was .... profound.... imogen _____________________
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FD Spark
Prim & Texture Doodler
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09-23-2008 02:31
I heard rumor in the newer Release Canidate their is way to do complete hide, chat in irc, and offline but it be the one just for cell phones and text only the one I heard about.
You can turn everyone off that can see you on your friend list providing they aren't in same groups as you currently. _____________________
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Conan Godwin
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Join date: 2 Aug 2006
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09-23-2008 02:36
press ingame: ctrl+q Alt + F4 can also help. Also, if using a windows based PC delete the directory "C:\windows\system32" It's full of stuff that you don't need and infact it slows your PC down. By deleting it you make your PC faster* *This may be a lie. _____________________
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Brenda Connolly
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09-23-2008 05:35
Yes, yes these are all great workarounds but all have issues also. Beta grid just isn't SL, paying thousands of L$ for a program just to transfer stuff from there to the main grid is major overkill for the want of a true privacy control. Also same with an alt, there are ownership issues of stuff you build, some inventory cannot be shared. Some private moments are not about building at all and so you might want to be dress decently and/or as your main any way. The point being these overkill solutions would not be needed if LL would just put a true privacy button in place. It is entirely possible to do but they do not do it. Probably for the same reason they *have* to call the Friends List just that instead of Contacts like an email or IM program would. Imagine the reduced dramas that would result if people were on a Contact list instead of on a FL. If you don't think so then ask yourself why a lot of people think you are only their friend if they are on your FL and can see exactly when you are around all the time and cry blue murder if you dare remove them. When I wake on a morning I don't immediately ring up all my friends to tell them I woke up and then do likewise to tell them I am about to go to sleep so why should I announce it every time I log in or out in SL?. It is silliness, not even my closest friends need to know that I am online every single time I log in or out. Unfortuinately the Friends list idea is from the days when SL was a a Hippy Dippy Communal Love in, where evryone was your friend and there was no need to avoid psychopaths, scam artists, and Congressman. But that isn't the case any more _____________________
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SophiaAnne Heartsdale
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09-23-2008 06:02
Unfortuinately the Friends list idea is from the days when SL was a a Hippy Dippy Communal Love in, where evryone was your friend and there was no need to avoid psychopaths, scam artists, and Congressman. But that isn't the case any more That Brenda is sooooo true |
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Imnotgoing Sideways
Can't outlaw cute! =^-^=
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09-23-2008 06:52
Meh... I'm a psychopath myself, so I got no problem with the friends list. More than half my friends list has map privileges on me and they're more than welcome to pop in on me at any time. It's not like I'm ever doing anything I'd be seriously embarrassed for them to see anyway. Heck, I've streaked all the welcome areas already anyway, what's there left to see? (=_=)
Sure, it can be a drag to have an influx of IMs and inventory offers, but that's part of the blur-of-activity that I wanted to get involved in when I joined a 3D virtual world with thousands and thousands of other people from around the world. (^_^) I personally have 5 alts, two of which are public, one that's even older than I am (darned computer spec requirements). If I want to be left alone, I have tons of options. Including my own OpenLife sim and Meatspace Offline®™. (^_^) I refuse to weep for content creators too... It's like watching all those crying celebrities that want their fans to "leave them alone"... I mean... You bought into the public life and should expect the price that comes from it. It's this little thing we call the human condition and you it won't be changing any time soon. (=_=) You'd think with all the shopping, meeting, hugging, snuggling, chatting, dancing, and loitering avatars on display on the SL websites; people would assume this might be a social environment before signing up. (=_=)y _____________________
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Gabriele Graves
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09-23-2008 07:15
Meh, Your World, Your Problem.
My world includes privacy at times I choose, that goes for both lives. Immy, I am a content creator too of sorts as are many people, lumping everyone together with the prima donna's is simply wrong and unfair. I don't have *any* fans, let alone ones I want to get away from and even if I want a break from my customers, that should be OK - I am not inworld and committing to 24 hour availability to anyone just because I sell a few prims. People needing to concentrate on any thing are going to find it hard with constant interruptions, people making stuff, people spending quality time with their special ones or simply trying to figure stuff out. That is a fact and has nothing to do with being sociable or unsociable. |
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SophiaAnne Heartsdale
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09-23-2008 07:35
Meh... I'm a psychopath myself, so I got no problem with the friends list. More than half my friends list has map privileges on me and they're more than welcome to pop in on me at any time. It's not like I'm ever doing anything I'd be seriously embarrassed for them to see anyway. Heck, I've streaked all the welcome areas already anyway, what's there left to see? (=_=) Sure, it can be a drag to have an influx of IMs and inventory offers, but that's part of the blur-of-activity that I wanted to get involved in when I joined a 3D virtual world with thousands and thousands of other people from around the world. (^_^) I personally have 5 alts, two of which are public, one that's even older than I am (darned computer spec requirements). If I want to be left alone, I have tons of options. Including my own OpenLife sim and Meatspace Offline®™. (^_^) I refuse to weep for content creators too... It's like watching all those crying celebrities that want their fans to "leave them alone"... I mean... You bought into the public life and should expect the price that comes from it. It's this little thing we call the human condition and you it won't be changing any time soon. (=_=) You'd think with all the shopping, meeting, hugging, snuggling, chatting, dancing, and loitering avatars on display on the SL websites; people would assume this might be a social environment before signing up. (=_=)y |
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Imnotgoing Sideways
Can't outlaw cute! =^-^=
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09-23-2008 07:45
I enjoy creating content in SL, and like many other designers do not want adoring fans or to laud it over others with my creations. I do it because I enjoy it, and part of that enjoyment is to have the peace and quiet to be able to design and create. There is a time and place for all things in my opinion. _____________________
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Lindal Kidd
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09-23-2008 07:46
I'm with those guys. ^
I love talking with my friends. Social interaction is a big part of SL for me. But when I rez prims, that's it. Total concentration, completely oblivious. Until... DING DING! Incoming IM. It's like someone poking an icepick into my fifteenth vertebra. OK. Close the edit window. Talk with the friend. "Nice chatting with you, got to get back to work now." Open the edit window. Open the texture tab. scroll thru ten zillion textures, I KNOW that perfect one is in here somewhere...and ... DING DING! ARRRRRRGHHH!  I REALLY want a way to turn off the phone. Not just a Busy message, I want to shut off the damn popups and ringer and have everything go right to email. I'll get to it LATERRrrr! _____________________
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Gabriele Graves
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09-23-2008 07:54
That's where OpenSim comes in... You can create to your heart's desire and never worry about anyone ever noticing. (^_^)y That seems a very extreme and narrow viewpoint to me. SL should be able to encompass all our needs and it does for the most part. That does not mean that it cannot be improved upon. Nobody is saying that it is unbearable as it is or anything nor is anyone saying if better privacy is not forthcoming they will leave, just that the addition of something quite minor and harmless would help greatly in giving a little privacy when needed to those who desire it. |
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Imnotgoing Sideways
Can't outlaw cute! =^-^=
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09-23-2008 07:58
...DING DING! Incoming IM... Anyone who responds poorly to "Sorries, busy. (^_^)y" is bound to be trouble anyway. Best let them get over their emo-binge and move on. (=_=)y _____________________
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Imnotgoing Sideways
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09-23-2008 08:09
So for the want of a little feature that you personally would choose not to use you are advocating people who might want some privacy leave SL? That seems a very extreme and narrow viewpoint to me. SL should be able to encompass all our needs and it does for the most part. That does not mean that it cannot be improved upon. Nobody is saying that it is unbearable as it is or anything nor is anyone saying if better privacy is not forcoming they will leave, just that the addition of something quite minor and harmless would help greatly in giving a little privacy when needed to those who desire it. _____________________
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Gabriele Graves
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09-23-2008 08:22
I'm saying that the desired feature is already addressed in the comparable alternatives to a main SL account and the people asking for hot dogs at McDonalds may just have to wait... very patiently... for the menu to change. (^_^) You did not even explain opensim had that feature. There are many other reasons why opensim is not suitable as well. Nobody as far as I could tell was saying anything had to be changed immediately, there was suggestion that a privacy feature would be a good thing and speculation as to why LL did not put this feature into SL, a feature that lesser programs that deal with communication and social interaction over the internet have had since day one. Basically, nobody was being impatient about hotdogs from Macdonalds Immy. |
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Maureen Boccaccio
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09-23-2008 08:25
I don't have *any* fans... /me is a fan....  _____________________
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Gabriele Graves
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09-23-2008 08:27
/me is a fan.... |
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Virrginia Tombola
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09-23-2008 08:38
I refuse to weep for content creators too... It's like watching all those crying celebrities that want their fans to "leave them alone"... I mean... You bought into the public life and should expect the price that comes from it. It's this little thing we call the human condition and you it won't be changing any time soon. (=_=) Oh, come now, Imnot, it's not weeping over the hoards of paparazzi at our window (though the flashbulbs do get annoying), it's a desire to be able to turn off the phone when we really need to work on a project. I have an alt that I do building with, but I don't have all my textures, scripts and such on that account. If I create a something with that account, the alt's name is listed as the creator. Busy mode works to a certain extent, but one still gets the "phone ringing" as it were. And they see that you are online but not answering which can seem rude (and remember, the customer is always right. Well, usually right) Really, sometimes one needs to be able to concentrate. _____________________
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Imnotgoing Sideways
Can't outlaw cute! =^-^=
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09-23-2008 08:40
...Basically, nobody was being impatient about hotdogs from Macdonalds Immy. On that note... If such a "hide mode" feature were to be added, I wonder what kinds of grief, abuse, and gaming potential would there be? Such a simple-on-the-surface option would have complicated implementation concerns to begin with. Think of all the things that can go wrong when someone is set to (busy) and you'll see what I mean. (^_^)y Guh... I'm sounding all technical today... (>_<  _____________________
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Annabelle Babii
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09-23-2008 09:55
Creating an alt to build would soon produce the same disturbance problems as building on your main. When products began to appear in your shop with your alt as the creator your friends would soon figure out that was your alt and contact you again, or feel hurt you hadn't informed them of you had an alt. Likewise you cannot create an alt to spend quiet time alone with your partner/special person etc , that has to be your main. I'm currently working on a way around that. _____________________
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Lindal Kidd
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09-23-2008 10:26
Immy, for my part I'm not looking for a hide feature...I can do that with an alt, if that's my goal. What I want is an expanded Busy Mode feature. I just wanna turn of the dang phone...because when I know there's an IM waiting for me, it ruins my concentration. My eyes keep straying over to the IM window, where that highlighted tab stares reproachfully at me.
And yes, the current Busy Mode has some awful drawbacks, which is why I very seldom use it. It doesn't do what I want, and it DOES (or can) do some things I really DON'T want. _____________________
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Nichole Vanbeeck
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09-23-2008 10:47
press ingame: ctrl+qor use an alt  Omg that is so true and funny. ROFL |
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Avion Raymaker
Palacio del Emperador!
Join date: 18 Jun 2007
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09-23-2008 11:49
I'm with those guys. ^ I love talking with my friends. Social interaction is a big part of SL for me. But when I rez prims, that's it. Total concentration, completely oblivious. Until... DING DING! Incoming IM. It's like someone poking an icepick into my fifteenth vertebra. OK. Close the edit window. Talk with the friend. "Nice chatting with you, got to get back to work now." Open the edit window. Open the texture tab. scroll thru ten zillion textures, I KNOW that perfect one is in here somewhere...and ... DING DING! ARRRRRRGHHH! I REALLY want a way to turn off the phone. Not just a Busy message, I want to shut off the damn popups and ringer and have everything go right to email. I'll get to it LATERRrrr! Every time this discussion surfaces it makes me so mad. I'm having exactly the same problem as Lindal here. I have not built anything in weeks. It drives me so crazy, I often avoid logging in at all. The thing that is so irritating, is the utter inability of people on here to have any empathy at all. To come on here decrying a potential feature, which, if enacted, you have no obligation to use, just boggles my mind at the utter selfishness and unhelpfulness. This reminds me of the pro-choice come-back: "Don't like abortion? THEN DON'T HAVE ONE!" A feature that would benefit many, and hurt no one, should have no opponents. There's no excuse for being opposed to a privacy/hide feature other than people just trying hard to be busy-bodies and jerks. On the other hand, if you are an annoying stalker type, and will lose all your victims if we get a privacy mode, then speak up: you have a stake in this. |
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Kathy Morellet
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09-23-2008 12:22
The thing that is so irritating, is the utter inability of people on here to have any empathy at all. To come on here decrying a potential feature, which, if enacted, you have no obligation to use, just boggles my mind at the utter selfishness and unhelpfulness. <SNIP> A feature that would benefit many, and hurt no one, should have no opponents. There's no excuse for being opposed to a privacy/hide feature other than people just trying hard to be busy-bodies and jerks. QFT |
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Imnotgoing Sideways
Can't outlaw cute! =^-^=
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09-23-2008 12:49
...On the other hand, if you are an annoying stalker type, and will lose all your victims if we get a privacy mode, then speak up: you have a stake in this. _____________________
Somewhere in this world; there is someone having some good clean fun doing the one thing you hate the most. (^_^)y
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