Increase stipend for EU users?

No, you wouldn't be paying more for the same amount of land, LL would be making less profit on it

Here we go again with the "It's not fair mentality".

I live in Los Angeles. It's expensive to live here. Much more expensive to live than someone in Kansas. It costs 37% more to live here than it would if I lived in Kansas. So I think LL should increase my stipend by that much. But what if I lived in Vancouver, or Paris, or Sydney....

No, LL has no reason whatsoever to charge different rates, or give different stipend amounts, etc. This is not THEIR issue. They screwed up by doing this with no warning but there is no reason they should be considered responsible for a countries tax rates.

Just as you people think your socialist dogma should be the rule of law for all of us on the planet.

Its time for you to rebuild the road that runs by your house. Make sure you get together with your neighbors so each of you builds at the same level.

If you don't think the revenue gathered through the VAT you pay is benefiting you shouldn't you be complaining to to the government who collects and spends the money rather than asking people who are not connected with your government to give you a subsidy?

Sorry, the law here is only the law here, and you gotta follow it. Stop whining.

I do actually support private roads. A system of private roads would be better maintained and built with less corruption than the current way. Now the governor's idiot son in law get a job with a road company and they get a fat contract to build substandard roads.
But in the US, for the most part our roads are paid for with taxes on gasoline. So the people driving do pay for the roads they are using.

No I don't. The EU has no claim upon me or my resources. But if they do insist they can come and try to take it. I will give them lead 235 grains at a time.

Like anybody would want to go there anyway.

Correctomundo!

LL will in time present their EU consumer pricing as VAT inclusive, which is the way it *has* to done for EU consumers.
That price could even be higher than the latest US$+VAT total.
They are the only show of their type in town at the moment, so existing EU consumers can just cough up or ship out. End of story. LL don't really care if customers are upset.

To be honest, is it really surprising that some would indulge in wishful thinking?
If the cost to you of your SL suddenly went up by 25% (no matter what the reason), you would do some wishing.

EU newcomers to SL will just take or leave the (new) price. The old price is irrelevant to them.
LL's rationale might be that the number who might ship out or reduce spending will be compensated for by new users. They could have grandfathered existing accounts, but they chose not to. STFU is the message. Or maybe they never really thought about it.


What percentage of EU users are Premium anyway???
What percentage of private islands are owned by EU users???

Only those who want freedom and liberty. You know the reason we left Europe in the first place.

Add Tolls and property taxes for State and County roads., at least up here. The New jersey trnpike was paid for years ago and the original plan was to end tolls once that happened, but once they start taking thy are ever gonna stop. Private highways have been discussed here,I think some exist out in California. I'm usually a proponent of privatizing services whenever possible, I'm one of the fw who advocates it even in my own
field. Government is just too big nowadays, it's a breeding ground for too much corruption and incompetence, and it's much harder to get rid of incompetent people than in the private sector.

Its not about customs

Its about (some) people wanting everyone else to help them pay their taxes.

The VAT is a European thing- Its the Europeans that should pay it. One way or another.

People are getting hung up on procedures and missing the big picture.

Okay it would have made more sense to just make a "European rate" in Euros that Includes the VAT for Europeans. It would have been simpler too.

Theres no logic on either side of the Atlantic that says if your laws are sucking up 15-20% of LL's proffit do they have to eat that cost. Nor to pass it along to those not costing them extra.

Enjoy your well terrorised religious police state with a tendency for oil theft.

Frankly, anyone who regards most of the governments in the EU as socialist has no conception of how fiercely wedded to capitalism our governments are. In most of the EU a socialist party would have little more chance of being elected than it would in the USA.

And interestingly I am a socialist, and I am one of the Europeans on these forums who can see no reason at all why our VAT should be allowed to affect US citizens at all. Increased stipends, lower charges, preferential tier levels for Europeans have all been suggested and are all in my view nonsense. We pay higher taxes than the US and we get more services from the State. In the end it all comes out much the same. There is no reason at all why we should get any preferential treatment.

Wow that is ignorant.

We obviously didnt steal Iraq's oil.

If that had been our goal the war would have been over years ago and the oil would be freely flowing here.

You know in the good old Imperialisitic way. You should know how thats supposed to work. Since it was SOP for Europe for nearly 500 years.

IN the US it is yes, but in Europe it's bloody hard to get rid of people who are incompetent in the private sector as well.

Idiot.

There used to be a time when one had to skip 9 out of 10 posts in just about every thread because they were only about pie.

Is this VAT thing just some Machiavellian scheme to marginalise forum pie-throwers?

It's Dan Linden's revenge........

Thank you Wulfric. Great comments

Let's put an end to all this country bashing PLEASE! It's immature and will get you nowhere. If I wanted to I could give a whole list of things that I feel are wrong with most of the countries in the EU. Why don't I? Other than the fact that it's pointless other than to piss people off, I don't because my list of what is wrong with the US, my country, would be even longer. Not that I think it's worse, it's just that I know it better.

Grow up folks!

Give me pie or give me death.

I'm sorry, I got trolled good. I'll endeavor not to let it happen too often.

Actually you made the first trolling statement.