The New Continent with Free Houses for Premiums

Got a somewhat better look at one of the homes in the Japanese area, which a member of my household obtained for his own use.

The parcel edges are right at the edges of the building, and the "front porch" prim in front of the door is part of the parcel. So at least one could LM the spot right in front of the door, but not actually inside the house. The eaves of the houses hang over the parcel edges into a 4M strip between parcels.

The nearest neighbor's wall was only 6 M away from his wall. There's no way that text chat in one home won't be readily heard in all the neighbor's homes. So the only way not to annoy the neighbors with chat spam is to talk only in IM's, or to use Voice and restrict voice to the parcel.

Guests could not run scripts or rez things, but at least the parcel owner can do so, and a guest can still use the scripted chair or pose ball, after the host rezzes it.

My friend's comment was that the end result is probably going to look more like a sparsely-furnished dorm room than a home, since even with low-prim furnishings, 117 prims isn't enough to properly fill the room.

I anticipate a lot of people will resort to low-prim furnishings that use LOTS of sculpted prims, which will add further to the lag there.

Surely that's something the home owner can change? If not... I wouldn't want a house there even if they paid me for it.

Any block developer can build an instanced house, hotel, secret fairy circle, or Tardis sort of thing on their land, and probably will. I figure most will live inside their own, but yes they could sublease out to others if they bothered to. I personally didn't plan on managing things at that level myself. Though I may do a few instanced homes just so people can see how they work and have an example data set of one.

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I would rather not discuss the project on this particular forum. I can see how honest references to the project make sense, and obviously I don't want to censor anybody, just realise it can put me in a rather awkward position.

If someone said "Desmond does bad things to ferrets on platform X" then I'm stuck with either explaining the situation, or tacitly becoming known for being a ferret abuser. Kinda icky either way.

The normal land settings to allow others to build and run scripts are in the About Land.
I've set permissions on in my place.

I think the default of having those disabled is good.
One of the reasons for litter and grief in Mainland is that when land is purchased, permissions are enabled- and autoreturn is set to 0. If the new owner is not aware of this, they and their neighbours are going to get 'surprises'.

Your friend is mistaken. A 512 building, with 117 prims, can be filled to the rafters with quality furniture, and without a sculptie in sight.

I must have really pissed the Lindens off. I freed up 512 tier within an hour or two of the blog and still no invite for me.

Aaw. Maybe you could find out who is doing the invites and IM him/her saying, "I freed up 512 tier just in case (wink wink)"

I wonder if they are picking people with some thought behind it. For instance, not inviting people who have a lot of land, but picking those who have none or very little.

They never invite me for anything - not even business-owner surveys - so I didn't expect in invite, and I wasn't disappointed

Fair enough. I should have just said "after visiting Blue Mars"... because instanced homes rented from the city builder is what Blue Mars seems to be assuming is the natural route for most people, since having lots of people in cookie-cutter houses is the best way to reduce the download size of a city.

Per Gator in post #84 of this thread, they must be using some other criteria:


/me starts brushing up the 'wink-wink' skills.

I don't. I've got avatars that don't work right in script-disabled land because the creator didn't know about the attachment trick and I don't have time to reverse-engineer all their scripting.

The best default permissions are script-enabled, build-enabled, and a short autoreturn. Build- and script-disabled land is just plain antisocial.

I read that post when it was posted, but I'd forgotten about it I'd no idea how much land the people who posted that they'd got an invite have. It was just a thought that had occured to me.

Good luck with the winking

That's interesting. What about build disabled but script enabled?

For a residence, where you're going to have visitors who might want to show you something they can't transfer, or who might want to rez a vehicle?

I turn that on as needed, for that exact purpose, but I don't leave it on. I do leave script enabled on.

I'm not convinced that there is some grand plan in the selection of people to get Nascara invitations. It may be more random, and obviously only for those with at least 512m of unused tier.

I had posted in the 'Open for viewing' blog on Dec 15th that
"If this option had existed when I began SL I would have opted for this area because of the openness. ....
I would have moved out as soon as I had got to grips with building and land, but that's me."


So I was someone who would not see a Linden Home as interesting to me personally.


As far as tier level is concerned, I'm at the half-sim level.

No, not a residence. I'm thinking about the store's land. I definitely don't want people rezzing stuff there, even for the 1 minute that auto-rerturn takes to dispose of things, but I also don't want the land to be a problem for people, and you mentioned you have avs that have problems when scripts are off.

I'm wondering if turning scripts on can be detrimental to me (build off), and also if that setup would do away with the problems you mentioned.

The idea of some thought behind the invites is something that crossed my mind, that's all. Apparently, the thought should have carried straight on

Wait a minute....... you actually entertained the idea that LL gave thought to something?

Sadly, I did - and I apologise most profusely. I doubt that I'll ever live the embarrassment down

Those are the best permissions for almost every land use, but I'm still pondering whether they'd be the best *default* permissions, given that Linden Support would have to field all the initial Lost+Found befuddlement. Even so: probably.

And yeah, even for stores, I'd leave build enabled, so folks could rez boxes, unless absolutely nothing in the store is boxed on delivery. Only a few will find a separate rez area. Land has to be a serious griefer target to be affected by self-replicators that auto-return won't zap, more than maybe once a year at most.

In theory, no-script might help with those rare self-replicators, but has no effect on pre-worn attachments other than most ineptly-scripted--and certainly none on annoyance attachments--but somebody wearing a new attachment on no-script land will be inconvenienced, so I doubt it's ever worth the aggravation.

(The best use I've seen for these "land with disabilities" settings is an alt-deeded ring of land around a sandbox parcel where I'm testing physical scripts without an auto-die.)

New sig alert.

Not to mention, if it autoreturns, then it's pinging the idiot who let it lose too. Maybe enough to crash THEIR viewer and allow the rest of us to AR them and quickly.

I allow scripts and build on my shop. Autoreturn does the trick for those that are litterbugs and they get a nice "nudge" to pick up their stuff, unless they wanna keep getting the blue boxes of "x has been returned from y."

normaly I have auto return set to a few minutes on the land I have for sale in my estate, this alows people to test if their house will fit without squaters and scammers able to abuse the land without me knowing about it.

In the blog about these little houses i noted they cant be resold or traded, or reassigned to another player..so when someone decides they want a bigger place, will they just abandon it back to LL, and or be stuck with it forever and then have it in their tier base or what? As it is now there's alot of still open 512's all over the mainland that were first lands that now collect trash prims and junk out the neighborhoods, and LL doesnt have a clue where they all are or how to return them to the system for reuse.

This should be interesting to see what happens to all of these abandoned houses...so far as i can tell, the windows don't go opaque, so there wont be alot of privacy for the horizontal mombo or just changing your pixels...i dunno i think they wont appeal to but a small section of SL, cute idea..the suburbs of avartarville. Guess we will just have to watch where it goes.