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10-02-2009 10:29
From: Argent Stonecutter
We already have the thread that shall not be named.


People think before they post there?
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10-02-2009 10:31
From: achem Serenity
The meaning of disingenuous has been shifting about lately, as if people were unsure of its proper meaning. Generally, it means "insincere" and often seems to be a synonym of cynical or calculating. Not surprisingly, the word is used often in political contexts, as in It is both insensitive and disingenuous for the White House to describe its aid package and the proposal to eliminate the federal payment as "tough love." This use of the word is accepted by 94 percent of the Usage Panel. Most Panelists also accept the extended meaning relating to less reproachable behavior. Fully 88 percent accept disingenuous with the meaning "playfully insincere, faux-naïf," as in the example "I don't have a clue about late Beethoven!" he said. The remark seemed disingenuous, coming from one of the world's foremost concert pianists. Sometimes disingenuous is used as a synonym for naive, as if the dis- prefix functioned as an intensive (as it does in certain words like disannul) rather than as a negative element. This usage does not find much admiration among Panelists, however. Seventy-five percent do not accept it in the phrase a disingenuous tourist who falls prey to stereotypical con artists.


Good Lord. Pep? Is that you??? :confused:
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10-02-2009 10:33
From: achem Serenity
I'm actually a black man, not looking like Megan Fox.


:p
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10-02-2009 10:33
And even later that same day that I made the pipe art... I had to rez the third pipe from my inventory...then I had to rez yet another pipe connector. It didn't come out at the right angle so I had to turn it 90 degrees first, then 180 degrees, no 90 degrees, then 270 degrees, no back to 180 degrees, then I had to move it right 1 meter, no 5 meters..., I had to turn it 90 degrees again, then 180 degrees, no 90 degrees, then 270 degrees, no back to 180 degrees, then I had to move it right 1 meter again, no 5 meters..., I had to turn it 90 degrees again, then 180 degrees, no 90 degrees, then 270 degrees, no back to 180 degrees, then I had to move it right 1 meter again, no 5 meters..., had to enlarge it, then reduce the size again, I had to turn it 90 degrees again, then 180 degrees, no 90 degrees, then 270 degrees, no back to 180 degrees, then I had to move it right 1 meter again, no 5 meters..., had to enlarge it, then reduce the size again, I had to turn it 90 degrees again, then 180 degrees, no 90 degrees, then 270 degrees, no back to 180 degrees, then I had to move it right 1 meter again, no 5 meters..., to enlarge it, then reduce the size again, I had to turn it 90 degrees again, then 180 degrees, no 90 degrees, then 270 degrees, no back to 180 degrees, then I had to move it right 1 meter again, no 5 meters..., had to enlarge it, then reduce the size again, I had to turn it 90 degrees again, then 180 degrees, no 90 degrees, then 270 degrees, no back to 180 degrees, then I had to move it right 1 meter again, no 5 meters..., still not right.
achem Serenity
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10-02-2009 10:35
But I do like Megan Fox, although she's white.
Seven Okelli
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10-02-2009 10:40
From: Treasure Ballinger
Good Lord. Pep? Is that you??? :confused:


Unlikely - what he posted was just a cut-and-paste from the American Heritage Dictionary:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/disingenuous

The one about neologisms was from Merriam-Webster.
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10-02-2009 10:41
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10-02-2009 10:42
And then on the following day I continued with the pipe art... I had to rez the fourth pipe from my inventory...then I had to rez yet another pipe connector. It didn't come out at the right angle so I had to turn it 90 degrees first, then 180 degrees, no 90 degrees, then 270 degrees, no back to 180 degrees, then I had to move it right 1 meter, no 5 meters..., I had to turn it 90 degrees again, then 180 degrees, no 90 degrees, then 270 degrees, no back to 180 degrees, then I had to move it right 1 meter again, no 5 meters..., I had to turn it 90 degrees again, then 180 degrees, no 90 degrees, then 270 degrees, no back to 180 degrees, then I had to move it right 1 meter again, no 5 meters..., had to enlarge it, then reduce the size again, I had to turn it 90 degrees again, then 180 degrees, no 90 degrees, then 270 degrees, no back to 180 degrees, then I had to move it right 1 meter again, no 5 meters..., had to enlarge it, then reduce the size again, I had to turn it 90 degrees again, then 180 degrees, no 90 degrees, then 270 degrees, no back to 180 degrees, then I had to move it right 1 meter again, no 5 meters..., to enlarge it, then reduce the size again, I had to turn it 90 degrees again, then 180 degrees, no 90 degrees, then 270 degrees, no back to 180 degrees, then I had to move it right 1 meter again, no 5 meters..., had to enlarge it, then reduce the size again, I had to turn it 90 degrees again, then 180 degrees, no 90 degrees, then 270 degrees, no back to 180 degrees, then I had to move it right 1 meter again, no 5 meters..., still not right.
achem Serenity
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10-02-2009 10:43
Transformers was a boom movie!
Scylla Rhiadra
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10-02-2009 10:43
From: Seven Okelli
Unlikely - what he posted was just a cut-and-paste from the American Heritage Dictionary:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/disingenuous

The one about neologisms was from Merriam-Webster.

Yes, I'm sure Pep would ONLY quote from the OED. And probably correct its grammar while doing so . . . :D
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10-02-2009 10:43
Yes, these are sent to my email each day. Interesting stuff. he, he, he.
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10-02-2009 10:44
And then later on that same day following the first day I continued with the pipe art... I had to rez the fifth pipe from my inventory...then I had to rez yet another pipe connector. It didn't come out at the right angle so I had to turn it 90 degrees first, then 180 degrees, no 90 degrees, then 270 degrees, no back to 180 degrees, then I had to move it right 1 meter, no 5 meters..., I had to turn it 90 degrees again, then 180 degrees, no 90 degrees, then 270 degrees, no back to 180 degrees, then I had to move it right 1 meter again, no 5 meters..., I had to turn it 90 degrees again, then 180 degrees, no 90 degrees, then 270 degrees, no back to 180 degrees, then I had to move it right 1 meter again, no 5 meters..., had to enlarge it, then reduce the size again, I had to turn it 90 degrees again, then 180 degrees, no 90 degrees, then 270 degrees, no back to 180 degrees, then I had to move it right 1 meter again, no 5 meters..., had to enlarge it, then reduce the size again, I had to turn it 90 degrees again, then 180 degrees, no 90 degrees, then 270 degrees, no back to 180 degrees, then I had to move it right 1 meter again, no 5 meters..., to enlarge it, then reduce the size again, I had to turn it 90 degrees again, then 180 degrees, no 90 degrees, then 270 degrees, no back to 180 degrees, then I had to move it right 1 meter again, no 5 meters..., had to enlarge it, then reduce the size again, I had to turn it 90 degrees again, then 180 degrees, no 90 degrees, then 270 degrees, no back to 180 degrees, then I had to move it right 1 meter again, no 5 meters..., still not right.
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10-02-2009 10:46
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achem Serenity
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10-02-2009 10:46
I am contemplating how much my root canal will cost. Hmm.
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10-02-2009 10:48
And then on third day I continued with the pipe art... I had to rez the sixth pipe from my inventory...then I had to rez yet another pipe connector. It didn't come out at the right angle so I had to turn it 90 degrees first, then 180 degrees, no 90 degrees, then 270 degrees, no back to 180 degrees, then I had to move it right 1 meter, no 5 meters..., I had to turn it 90 degrees again, then 180 degrees, no 90 degrees, then 270 degrees, no back to 180 degrees, then I had to move it right 1 meter again, no 5 meters..., I had to turn it 90 degrees again, then 180 degrees, no 90 degrees, then 270 degrees, no back to 180 degrees, then I had to move it right 1 meter again, no 5 meters..., had to enlarge it, then reduce the size again, I had to turn it 90 degrees again, then 180 degrees, no 90 degrees, then 270 degrees, no back to 180 degrees, then I had to move it right 1 meter again, no 5 meters..., had to enlarge it, then reduce the size again, I had to turn it 90 degrees again, then 180 degrees, no 90 degrees, then 270 degrees, no back to 180 degrees, then I had to move it right 1 meter again, no 5 meters..., to enlarge it, then reduce the size again, I had to turn it 90 degrees again, then 180 degrees, no 90 degrees, then 270 degrees, no back to 180 degrees, then I had to move it right 1 meter again, no 5 meters..., had to enlarge it, then reduce the size again, I had to turn it 90 degrees again, then 180 degrees, no 90 degrees, then 270 degrees, no back to 180 degrees, then I had to move it right 1 meter again, no 5 meters..., still not right.
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10-02-2009 10:52
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achem Serenity
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10-02-2009 10:53
The economic motives which spur innovation may realize longevity, abundance and machine intelligence, should we continue to progress scientifically.
The death of a person who embodies critical skills and experience of value to society represents a major economic loss. Hence, the economic need to continue the existence of such persons will continue to motivate research and innovation in longevity, if for no other reason than the profit motive. However, the development of information systems that could embody this lifetime of learning and experience after the person has died might negate the need to purse longevity as an economic goal, and would be part of the driving force for the development of artificial intelligence systems and mind uploading. Again, the profit motive of capitalism would be the invisible hand behind the technological solution, not the desires of “superlative futurologists.”
An economic system beyond the framework of capitalism could achieve abundance, as capitalism artificially maintains scarcity in many markets by not producing at full capacity in order to keep prices high, and the stifling of new technology which could threaten incumbent interests. Should humanity be able to transcend the current economic framework, greater scientific effort would be directed at producing goods and services to satisfy human needs. We can argue that even today a form of abundance is possible with current technology, if resources were no longer channeled to military expenditures but spent on food production and distribution to the people that need it, education and health care.
As the human population grows, society increases in complexity. The point has already been reached where human minds are not able to fully grasp all aspects of the functioning of the system, and we have come to increasingly rely on information technology. As society grows in complexity, so will our information systems which manage society’s production and distribution, until the point is reached where humanity is in effect totally dependent on this information system that has become so complex and networked that to unplug it would mean catastrophe for society. This system could eventually reach a level of complexity that parallels consciousness and intelligence, but not of the human kind. This overarching system would be the basis for an automated society.
So the technologies to achieve longevity, abundance and machine intelligence are influenced by economic forces, and impact on each other.
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10-02-2009 13:08
From: Pserendipity Daniels
Wouldn't it be great if the whole huperson race were a little more politically correct? :rolleyes:
You are probably not old enough to remember a time when the very same people who argued that the word "man" meant "human" also laughed at women who said things like, "I was the third member of a three man team." It happened to me all the time. I do think it is better now that we have more language and attitudes that allow more for perceiving individuals for what they are rather than just in which huge general group they belong.

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Pep (has always thought "lady" was a compliment; perhaps you have self-esteem problems?)
There was a time when I probably did have some self-esteem issues. But I've gotten pretty good at ignoring the understandable (or otherwise) assumptions of others about me. I find that if I just keep acting like the individual I'm trying to be then I and others are able to pretty much accept me that way.


I have actually been given the compliment of being called a lady - and accepted it with pleasure. If anyone has notions that being a lady involves some kind of inferiority, well I'm trying not to be inferior in any ways that I can avoid it.
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i think people are afraid of me or something.
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10-02-2009 13:10
From: Kaimi Kyomoon
You are probably not old enough to remember a time when the very same people who argued that the word "man" meant "human" also laughed at women who said things like, "I was the third member of a three man team."
I probably am.

Pep (I laughed then and I laugh now.)
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10-02-2009 13:33
From: Scylla Rhiadra
Hmmm, let me check on the etymology of "birds" in that context, and I'll get back to you! :D

Nope. You are WAY better than "classy"! :)


"Bird" is a misspelling of "Burd" which meant a woman in Anglo-Saxon. It is related to "Bride"
I have never had a problem being a Bird or a Chick. Actually I like "chick". And "kid". I liek kid. Call me kid or chick and I'm happy with that.
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10-02-2009 13:38
From: Treasure Ballinger
Secretaries love me. I thought it was because I am nice, and because I buy lunch on Secretarie's Day. I never realized it was cause I'm not classy. :p

Edited for Pep: That would be *Secretary's* Day, not 'Secretarie's'. :p
Caring about the comfort of others, especially people who do work for you is exactly what I would call having class. I think it's a good thing to strive for. (I start out assuming everyone is born into the same class - no matter what they and others may believe.)



From: Pserendipity Daniels
No, this is a friend who is less than a hundredth in line to the English throne.

Pep (Who once enjoyed having an American "First Lady" - now *there's* something to think about - curtsey to her.)
Interesting...I was under the impression that it was not appropriate for heads of state, or their spouses to curtsy to heads of other states, let alone those in line for the position.
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i think people are afraid of me or something.
achem Serenity
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10-02-2009 14:25
Then it was time deal with the water pump before returning to more pipes. I had to rez the pressure gauge from my inventory...then I had to rez the wheel. It didn't come out at the right angle so I had to turn it 90 degrees first, then 180 degrees, no 90 degrees, then 270 degrees, no back to 180 degrees, then I had to move it right 1 meter, no 5 meters..., I had to turn it 90 degrees again, then 180 degrees, no 90 degrees, then 270 degrees, no back to 180 degrees, then I had to move it right 1 meter again, no 5 meters..., I had to turn it 90 degrees again, then 180 degrees, no 90 degrees, then 270 degrees, no back to 180 degrees, then I had to move it right 1 meter again, no 5 meters..., had to enlarge it, then reduce the size again, I had to turn it 90 degrees again, then 180 degrees, no 90 degrees, then 270 degrees, no back to 180 degrees, then I had to move it right 1 meter again, no 5 meters..., had to enlarge it, then reduce the size again, I had to turn it 90 degrees again, then 180 degrees, no 90 degrees, then 270 degrees, no back to 180 degrees, then I had to move it right 1 meter again, no 5 meters..., to enlarge it, then reduce the size again, I had to turn it 90 degrees again, then 180 degrees, no 90 degrees, then 270 degrees, no back to 180 degrees, then I had to move it right 1 meter again, no 5 meters..., had to enlarge it, then reduce the size again, I had to turn it 90 degrees again, then 180 degrees, no 90 degrees, then 270 degrees, no back to 180 degrees, then I had to move it right 1 meter again, no 5 meters..., still not right.
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10-02-2009 14:26
1000 more parts to go on my masterpiece water pump pipe art!
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10-02-2009 14:29
I will continue to give you a stage by stage account of its construction. Keep tuned.
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10-02-2009 14:31
In the last hundred years, technological developments have been, if anything, more far-reaching in their social implications than those of the previous hundred years. At the beginning of the 20th century there were no motor cars or lorries and no road system which could have supported today's mass of high-speed traffic. There were no aeroplanes or helicopters. There were no farm tractors, combine harvesters, milking machines or tuberculosis-free cattle. There was little domestic gas and virtually no domestic electricity so that there were no household machines such as vacuum cleaners, refrigerators, washing machines, or food mixers. Electronic engineering, with its wide range of applications from radio and television to computers, microwave ovens and automatic control systems, had not yet begun. There was no automation, no laser and fibre optics, no space engineering, no biological engineering, no atomic engineering, no man-made fibres or plastics, no stainless steel or even aluminium. It was a society of horse drawn vehicles, domestic servants, heavy manual work, cast iron and steam power.
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