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Cybin Monde

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12-28-2009 19:56

Looks like i was wrong...

That's weird, i would have thought it would be off by default for the Everybody role.

*scratches head*

so, um, yeah.. what the others said. you would have to go in and change Everybody apparently. (we should make a Jira for that!)

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12-28-2009 20:05

From: Ciaran Laval

https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-378

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Cybin Monde

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d'oh...

12-28-2009 20:23

ok, i should probably pay better attention to what i'm saying.. i even saw that Jira "link" up there and though i should check it out.

That's what posting immediately after being done with work will get you, i suppose. lol

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Dick McMinnar

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12-29-2009 02:19

From: Imogen Panacek

would co-owners get it? only my friend made his sl wife along with some other friends co-owners.

Yes they will get paid. I'm pretty sure you can't change that for owners either, nor can you remove them from the role of owner, nor remove them from the group.

Teh moral being, don't make others group-owners.

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sable Valentine

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12-29-2009 09:11

From: Dick McMinnar

Teh moral being, don't make others group-owners.

QFT!

Everland Usher

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12-29-2009 17:13

From: Dick McMinnar

Yes they will get paid. I'm pretty sure you can't change that for owners either, nor can you remove them from the role of owner, nor remove them from the group.

Teh moral being, don't make others group-owners.

Yes thats why you get a huge box filling half your screen when you try to make others owners ... saying ARE YOU SURE? ARE YOU REALLY REALLY SURE? DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE ABOUT TO DO; PLEASE READ

I dont know what more LL can do though, to make people read, I do however know they could uncheck pay liablitities/recieve dividents more clear ... ref this tread (currently 2 places up) about the oposite, yet the same: /327/cf/357752/1.html

You couldnt be more right Dick.

Princess Ivory

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12-30-2009 07:18

You cannot change the status of another owner, or remove them from the group. The only way they can be removed from owner status is if THEY voluntarily remove themselves from that status. So if your friend, his wife, and their other friends are owners, they WILL receive a share of the proceeds. You will have to ask them to pay you back the money.

Regarding the "everyone" (and the "officers" category, if you assigned it to anyone) category, check and be sure the pay/receive dividends and liabilities box is unchecked, or they will receive a share of the proceeds as well. As a group owner you have the power to do this, and you should do it IMMEDIATELY.

What I do when forming a group and deeding land is to create an alt that I own, and make myself and my alt the only two group owners (a group must have at least two members or LL will close the group). That way the group will not get closed on me if other members leave, and any proceeds or charges will only be applied to me and my own alt. I turn off the check box in the other categories about pay/receive dividends and liabilities, so that ONLY the owner pays and receives them. This is the safest way to hold group-deeded land. Group members are in the "everyone" category" and I go through the check boxes and give them very limited powers.

Hope it works out ok for you.

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Centaine Decatur

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12-30-2009 09:52

Next time you sell land deeded to a group, sell it to yourself for 0l first. Then set to sell to the public when it is in your name alone.

LittleMe Jewell

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12-30-2009 10:29

From: Princess Ivory

What I do when forming a group and deeding land is to create an alt that I own, and make myself and my alt the only two group owners (a group must have at least two members or LL will close the group). That way the group will not get closed on me if other members leave, and any proceeds or charges will only be applied to me and my own alt.

The best reason for making the alt a co-owner rather than just any other role is so they can invite you back to the group if it is not open enrollment and you accidentally hit that damn 'leave group' button.

/me knows this from experience

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12-30-2009 11:42

From: Centaine Decatur

Next time you sell land deeded to a group, sell it to yourself for 0l first. Then set to sell to the public when it is in your name alone.

If you do that mightn't you need to do something about tier you have donated to the group to make sure you don't get double billed?

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12-30-2009 11:47

From: SuezanneC Baskerville

If you do that mightn't you need to do something about tier you have donated to the group to make sure you don't get double billed?

Yes.
1) Withdraw the tier required from group donation. The group will go into negative tier - more land owned than covered by donations - but that's ok for a while.
2) Buy the land.

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Ciaran Laval

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12-30-2009 12:07

From: SuezanneC Baskerville

If you do that mightn't you need to do something about tier you have donated to the group to make sure you don't get double billed?

It's not too bad, if you are going to go over tier limit you'll get a warning, if you're not going to go over tier limit you'll be asked if you want to remove x amount of donations to the group.

just sold land that was group deed, how do i get the lindens from group?
Cybin Monde Resident Moderator (?) Join date: 27 Jan 2004 Posts: 2,468	12-28-2009 19:56 Looks like i was wrong... That's weird, i would have thought it would be off by default for the Everybody role. scratches head so, um, yeah.. what the others said. you would have to go in and change Everybody apparently. (we should make a Jira for that!) _____________________ "We, as developers, are doing the easy part – building the scaffolding for a new world. You, as the engines of creation, must breathe life into it." - Philip Linden "There is no life I know to compare with pure imagination. Living there, you'll be free if you truly wish to be." - Willy Wonka (circa 1971) SecondSpace (http://groups.myspace.com/secondspace) : MySpace group for SLers.
Osprey Therian I want capslocklock Join date: 6 Jul 2004 Posts: 5,049	12-28-2009 20:05 From: Ciaran Laval https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-378 _____________________ http:www.atomic-raygun.com Combat Cards in Europa [url=http://slurl.com/secondlife/grignano/118/116/]The Photography Studio in Grignano[/url] Mud! Mud! Glorious mud! Nothing quite like it for cooling the blood. So, follow me, follow, down to the hollow, And there let us wallow in glorious mud. Flanders and Swan
Cybin Monde Resident Moderator (?) Join date: 27 Jan 2004 Posts: 2,468	d'oh... 12-28-2009 20:23 ok, i should probably pay better attention to what i'm saying.. i even saw that Jira "link" up there and though i should check it out. That's what posting immediately after being done with work will get you, i suppose. lol _____________________ "We, as developers, are doing the easy part – building the scaffolding for a new world. You, as the engines of creation, must breathe life into it." - Philip Linden "There is no life I know to compare with pure imagination. Living there, you'll be free if you truly wish to be." - Willy Wonka (circa 1971) SecondSpace (http://groups.myspace.com/secondspace) : MySpace group for SLers.
Dick McMinnar Call me Richard Join date: 27 Aug 2008 Posts: 127	12-29-2009 02:19 From: Imogen Panacek would co-owners get it? only my friend made his sl wife along with some other friends co-owners. Yes they will get paid. I'm pretty sure you can't change that for owners either, nor can you remove them from the role of owner, nor remove them from the group. Teh moral being, don't make others group-owners. _____________________ http://tinyurl.com/ml5x3u Originally Posted by Stroker Serpentine “I’m not some kind of noob,” Catteneo said. “My name isn’t on file. I don’t even have a permanent address either.” Originally Posted by Lias Leandros "In the United States the courts ruled no child is involved in avatar depictions on the internet. Wat are you talking about?"
sable Valentine AU United Join date: 30 Apr 2006 Posts: 1,275	12-29-2009 09:11 From: Dick McMinnar Teh moral being, don't make others group-owners. QFT!
Everland Usher Registered User Join date: 25 Jan 2007 Posts: 10	12-29-2009 17:13 From: Dick McMinnar Yes they will get paid. I'm pretty sure you can't change that for owners either, nor can you remove them from the role of owner, nor remove them from the group. Teh moral being, don't make others group-owners. Yes thats why you get a huge box filling half your screen when you try to make others owners ... saying ARE YOU SURE? ARE YOU REALLY REALLY SURE? DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE ABOUT TO DO; PLEASE READ I dont know what more LL can do though, to make people read, I do however know they could uncheck pay liablitities/recieve dividents more clear ... ref this tread (currently 2 places up) about the oposite, yet the same: /327/cf/357752/1.html You couldnt be more right Dick.
Princess Ivory SL is my First Life Join date: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 720	12-30-2009 07:18 You cannot change the status of another owner, or remove them from the group. The only way they can be removed from owner status is if THEY voluntarily remove themselves from that status. So if your friend, his wife, and their other friends are owners, they WILL receive a share of the proceeds. You will have to ask them to pay you back the money. Regarding the "everyone" (and the "officers" category, if you assigned it to anyone) category, check and be sure the pay/receive dividends and liabilities box is unchecked, or they will receive a share of the proceeds as well. As a group owner you have the power to do this, and you should do it IMMEDIATELY. What I do when forming a group and deeding land is to create an alt that I own, and make myself and my alt the only two group owners (a group must have at least two members or LL will close the group). That way the group will not get closed on me if other members leave, and any proceeds or charges will only be applied to me and my own alt. I turn off the check box in the other categories about pay/receive dividends and liabilities, so that ONLY the owner pays and receives them. This is the safest way to hold group-deeded land. Group members are in the "everyone" category" and I go through the check boxes and give them very limited powers. Hope it works out ok for you. _____________________ Princess Ivory
Centaine Decatur Mooncusser Join date: 24 Oct 2006 Posts: 49	12-30-2009 09:52 Next time you sell land deeded to a group, sell it to yourself for 0l first. Then set to sell to the public when it is in your name alone.
LittleMe Jewell ........... Join date: 8 Oct 2007 Posts: 11,319	12-30-2009 10:29 From: Princess Ivory What I do when forming a group and deeding land is to create an alt that I own, and make myself and my alt the only two group owners (a group must have at least two members or LL will close the group). That way the group will not get closed on me if other members leave, and any proceeds or charges will only be applied to me and my own alt. The best reason for making the alt a co-owner rather than just any other role is so they can invite you back to the group if it is not open enrollment and you accidentally hit that damn 'leave group' button. /me knows this from experience _____________________ ♥♥♥ -Lil Why do you sit there looking like an envelope without any address on it? ~Mark Twain~ Optimism is denial, so face the facts and move on. ♥♥♥ Lil's Yard Sale / Inventory Cleanout: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Triggerfish/52/27/22 . http://www.flickr.com/photos/littleme_jewell
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	12-30-2009 11:42 From: Centaine Decatur Next time you sell land deeded to a group, sell it to yourself for 0l first. Then set to sell to the public when it is in your name alone. If you do that mightn't you need to do something about tier you have donated to the group to make sure you don't get double billed? _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
Sling Trebuchet Deleted User Join date: 20 Jan 2007 Posts: 4,548	12-30-2009 11:47 From: SuezanneC Baskerville If you do that mightn't you need to do something about tier you have donated to the group to make sure you don't get double billed? Yes. 1) Withdraw the tier required from group donation. The group will go into negative tier - more land owned than covered by donations - but that's ok for a while. 2) Buy the land. _____________________ Maggie: We give our residents a lot of tools, to build, create, and manage their lands and objects. That flexibility also requires people to exercise judgment about when things should be used. http://www.ace-exchange.com/home/story/BDVR/589
Ciaran Laval Mostly Harmless Join date: 11 Mar 2007 Posts: 7,951	12-30-2009 12:07 From: SuezanneC Baskerville If you do that mightn't you need to do something about tier you have donated to the group to make sure you don't get double billed? It's not too bad, if you are going to go over tier limit you'll get a warning, if you're not going to go over tier limit you'll be asked if you want to remove x amount of donations to the group.

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just sold land that was group deed, how do i get the lindens from group?