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Banning Banks

Oryx Tempel
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01-19-2008 10:36
From: Ciaran Laval
Do you think the FDIC would be able to pay out the insurance to pay back every single depositor? I don't think so. There would be people who would lose money.

What's your point? All I was saying was that depositing your L$ in a "bank" not backed by the FDIC isn't a good idea. Since none of the SL banks that closed WERE backed by the FDIC, ALL of the people lost their money.

[Edit: I'm using the FDIC because LL is located in the USA. If an SL bank were backed by a comparable institution in another country, same thing would apply.]
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Sweet Primrose
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01-19-2008 10:45
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Bee Mizser
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01-20-2008 08:08
From: Flennan Roffo
No it's not. Since the LL policy does not distinguish between banks that trustworthy pay you the interest that you were promised and have investments that pay for that interest, and those that use Ponzi like schema that will get blow apart in the end, leaving many customers who can not be paid back.

No bank (wether RL or SL) can ever deal with a situation in which all money on all accounts has to be paid back. So in fact this policy will hurt banks and customers, not just the frauding banks.



Agreed, but by making regulation with RL organisations (eg FDIC or the UK FSA) mandatory, only the "honest" banks will bother as there is some time and expense involved in getting the necessary accreditation from those RL bodies. This would also involve the banks being a RL company with limited liability and RL shareholders. Meaning that the RL information of the people running these businesses would have to be on public record.

Instead of the totally unregulated, one man bands that nobody knows who they are, that call themselves a bank that LL has now thought fit to ban.

For that reason, LL has made a very difficult decision. In my mind the correct decision although this should have been in place from day one. This would've saved a lot of people from Ginko and all the other Ponzis.
Jessica Elytis
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01-20-2008 08:27
From: Raudf Fox
Is LL banning all banks in SL? Again, no. They are only banning those that are not registered/licensed with an RL regulating entity. I've heard that at least two banks are doing the paperwork to become RL banks, which begs the question of why aren't the other SL banks doing it?


Quoted to try to bury the dead horse *takes sticks from people*, and to bury the hatchet (preferably in the thick skulls of people who can't get the reasoning behind the above quote).

~Jessy
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Bee Mizser
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01-20-2008 10:18
From: Jessica Elytis
Quoted to try to bury the dead horse *takes sticks from people*, and to bury the hatchet (preferably in the thick skulls of people who can't get the reasoning behind the above quote).

~Jessy


/me looks at my post, asks Jessy to read it and takes back my stick....


I never said Banks were banned, I said that RL protection was mandatory......

Now that my post is proven to be valid, I think my opinion is too :P
Wilhelm Neumann
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01-20-2008 10:56
From: Tristin Mikazuki
What DUMB @ass thought banning banks in SL is a good idea???

!


I'm a proud dumbass thank you very much!

only peopel that wouldn't think its a good idea would be the "wanna be bankers"
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Jessica Elytis
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01-20-2008 11:09
From: Bee Mizser
/me looks at my post, asks Jessy to read it and takes back my stick....


I never said Banks were banned, I said that RL protection was mandatory......

Now that my post is proven to be valid, I think my opinion is too :P


Errr....I didn't refer to your post. Mine follows it, but doesn't comment on it. *Takes back stick...again* Concidering we're on the same side of this discussion, you don't need this.

If you'd go back and read MY post *grins* you'd see I'm tired of the people crying that banks are banned. They aren't. Only the unregulated ones are.

~Jessy
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Xal Dryke
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01-20-2008 11:23
This again??
Wilhelm Neumann
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01-20-2008 11:30
From: Xal Dryke
This again??


well yes. We have to go through the pains of listening to the bankers complain now just like we had to go through the pain of listening to casino operators and slot machine creators complain. Why would this be any different?


:D
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Ciaran Laval
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01-20-2008 12:00
From: Oryx Tempel
What's your point? All I was saying was that depositing your L$ in a "bank" not backed by the FDIC isn't a good idea. Since none of the SL banks that closed WERE backed by the FDIC, ALL of the people lost their money.


My point is that many customers would be left pissing in the wind if RL banks had two weeks to shape up or ship out. The insurance wouldn't be able to cope.

Yes you're right, depositing money in SL banks wasn't a good idea, no regulation, no guarantees, no legal status. However given the same circumstances, RL banks with all their legality and insurance would be up the creek without a paddle too.
Cristalle Karami
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01-20-2008 12:50
From: Ciaran Laval
My point is that many customers would be left pissing in the wind if RL banks had two weeks to shape up or ship out. The insurance wouldn't be able to cope.

Yes you're right, depositing money in SL banks wasn't a good idea, no regulation, no guarantees, no legal status. However given the same circumstances, RL banks with all their legality and insurance would be up the creek without a paddle too.

But they don't have only two weeks to liquidate. They have two weeks to take the ATMs down. If they are still liquidating after that time, they just have to do it manually, not via ATM. No one is going to be screwed by an honest bank.
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Wilhelm Neumann
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01-20-2008 13:40
From: Cristalle Karami
No one is going to be screwed by an honest bank.


honest and bank with regards to sl is like an oxymoron you know?
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Cristalle Karami
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01-20-2008 14:37
From: Wilhelm Neumann
honest and bank with regards to sl is like an oxymoron you know?

Well there was one that I know of. The others... meh. Either way, it's better to end it earlier than later, and giving 6 days or 6 months doesn't make a difference if the bank intends to pay back its depositors.
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Katie Singh
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01-21-2008 09:51
Presumably the banks had investments (tries to hold her laughter). So... has anyone seen any of the banks selling off these investments to get liquid? Has anyone seen SL businesses in desperate need of credit crying because they can't borrow money?

I just don't think for most of these there ever was any investments. It was just Scammy McScamster leaving town with a big bag of monies.
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