What makes you go...

Oop... I think I got the wrong Zi.. Zee... Heh. (=_=)

arharhar.. maybe maybe not lol

looks similar in any case =P

ETA: In any case it gives me hope ^_^

I don't really go to clubs. But I will go if a friend asks me over or if someone new asks to see a club. I usually scan events for a live music club that has someone playing at the time. I will sometimes go searching the map for masses of green dots to see what's happening. If it's a club I sometimes stay to check it out.

I like checking out clubs with themes that I cant access in RL, for example I enjoy Euro industrial but where I live (west coast of canada) we never hear it played in a rl club.

I also look for social themes that match my lifestyle to meet other people who share similar interests.

I also enjoy Role play and dress up so often end up in goth / demon /vampire / RP clubs to show off my latest wierd Avi outfits I have found.

What makes me a regular is the people I meet there, if they like to talk and laugh, make jokes and have fun I hang out... if its a silent club where cliques of people talk in IM's and no one but the host says "hi" im gone.

Number one has got to be good, intelligent conversation and people who make me feel welcome. When I think of the clubs where I've become a regular, I remember less about the build and the music and more about the people who built it up. If you can get together a good group of regulars, who are still open to new people, you're golden. And for that, nothing beats either being there personally during events to keep conversation going, or hiring good hosts/hostesses.

Music is not what draws me to a club or keeps me coming back. I like some of just about everything, except maybe techno. As long as it fits with the theme of the club (or a theme night) I'm cool.

Build is somewhat important - not so much the style, as consideration for the patrons. It's nice to have couples dances, single dance options, and a place to sit back and watch while still feeling like part of the action. If you can arrange things so that everyone in the main part of the club is pretty much within conversational range, it helps. The less lag created by the build and textures, the better.

I love dress-up contests. The sillier the better, but I like simple color themes, too. It doesn't even have to be a contest, I guess, even a theme night can be fun. Trivia can be a blast. I'd love to find more games that can be played during the course of an evening at a club.

I don't go to clubs with dancers or strippers, so I can't comment there. Except I think if you have them, they should engage the audience, not just sit on the danceball/pole like animated decor.

Group invites - I've never been offended by them, I just accept them as part of the club landscape. I'd prefer to be asked if I want one, or told who to ask, but how long does it take to hit "Decline" or to accept and then weed later? I can't say I've ever met a host or hostess who was offended if I turned down an invite. (Disclaimer: At the club where I work, we are required to send invites to everyone. I don't set club policy.)

And, as long as we're wishing... Someone to dance with. Not something a club owner has a lot of control over, and it's not a dealbreaker for me if I have to dance solo, but if I know that I'm likely to find male friends to dance with at a particular club, I'm likely to drop in more often. Group dances can be fun, too - I really should look up the Funky Feats again sometime soon...

(Disclaimer: I am a hostess at an SL club. I was a regular there first, and have been a regular at others.)

Personally while animations can be really cool and all....truthfully I just don't get the excitement woo's and all over dancing at some dance or club.
Strobe lights are equally annoying and can be dangerous for some people with seizure disorders or painful to those who are prone to migraines.
I don't go to clubs, I think there is way too many of them and few of them have anything original to offer except expensive or gawdy looking place with no people in side even when they have events listed in search.
I am sorry I don't get excited by watching a bunch of pixels dance unless I am having one of those personally rare high male hormonal driven moments where anything moving is exciting.

What makes me go to a club? The music
What makes me want to come back? The people
What makes me want to stay and become a regular? Everything else

Stuff that almost always wipes a club off my "return to" list?
1. Clubs loaded with way too many on-duty staff all begging for tips.
2. Clubs with big attached malls or laggy shopping areas.
3. Clubs that turn a blind eye to rude or cliquish behaviour by staff, regulars, or visitors.
4. Clubs with sex areas, escorts, or any other horny noob attractions.
5. Clubs that camp alts, or have camping to boost traffic.

The people and the atmosphere they create are what makes or breaks a club for me. As long as there was some stuff to interact with, it could be held in an empty lot and still be a great place to go to and have fun if the right kind of people go there. I go to a club to listen to great music, dance, chat, and maybe participate in an event. I don't go there to shop, camp, get involved in drama, or find someone to take home for the evening... I can do those things just fine on my own.

Nicely put..it's about people coming and having a great time enjoying themselves..
people have argued the fact with me that quality brings quality in a club..i believe if you build something and it is respectful of the patrons and they feel important rather than a wallet or a number that you will then bring out the best in people working there and coming there..

it gets old banging heads over who has the best idea for making a club..it's one of the number one causes of drama in a club..my plan beats your plan..

it's just suposed to be a fun place not a cattle ranch..
success is measured in alot of ways..
the last one i would use for a measurement would be the number of traffic..
to me it would be the quality of traffic..
people want to hang with people and places they have thigns in common with..clubs trying to please everyone or pull everyone fail..

I'll answer since there are few clubs to which I like to go, and perhaps this thread will influence the opening of more clubs that I would like:

1. I like a good crowd, but not too big and not to small. Too big and I feel "lost in the crowd;" plus a huge crowd slows my computer down to a crawl. Too small and I feel awkward, with the whole center of attention of everyone focused on me when I enter the club, forced conversations off the bad, and pressure on me to be interactive immediately.

I like at least a minute or two to look over the club and read a few profiles of people before I interact. With enough people, hopefully any conversations that are struck up are based on the fact that a person want to talk to me specifically, or I want to talk to another person specifically; not because we are the only two people there and are stuck with each other. Too many people, and I get the feeling that no one notices me at all (except horny noob men who have been turned down for sex by every other woman in the club already).

2. A generally friendly crowd is nice. Some popular places seem to have a close clique of regulars. The places with a formal dress code also seem to have a crowd with overly-formal personalities.

3. I like a club with couples dances other than the ever-popular slow dances and ballroom style dances. I especially like that thing (I don't know what it's called) that rezzes couples-dance poseballs and provides a menu of dances- as long as the available dances have a variety.

Alternatively, a club that lets me rez my own dances takes care of the dances problem. One club to which I go frequently allows group members to rez objects, so I can bring my own, quite expensive, dances with me.

4. I like a club with an easy-to-find, limited gathering space. I don't like places that are too spread out, or where I have to search for where to go. On the other hand, I don't like clicking to teleport to a club and then finding myself right in the middle of everyone. If I teleport, and all the action is 10 m in front of me, that's comfortable.

5. I like friendly, but not overly-aggressive hosts. Saying hi to me and welcoming me when I arrive is nice. Beyond that, I don't like a host who looks at me every three minutes, asks me if I'm having fun, and runs through the litany of do this-that-or-the-other.

6. I don't like clubs that have their own "dancers," whether strippers or not. When a club provides its own scantily-clad Barbie dolls to attract the attention of the young heterosexual men at the club, then the club is sabatoging me. I do like for nice guys to occasionally ask me to dance, but if there is too much other eye candy for them, then the won't notice me.

Now, if I were going to a strip club, that would be different. Unfortunately, most male strip clubs in Second Life lack the one thing that I think male strip clubs should have: Men stripping on stage.

7. Activities besides dancing that encourage social interaction are a plus. For example, one of the secondary effects of a trivia game is that it sparks conversations among the participants.

8. I have mixed feelings when it comes to "themed" events. On the one hand, having an excuse to play dress-up is fun. On the other hand, dressing for a particular event takes a lot of time for me, and I'm wary of doing it for an event at a club with which I'm not familiar, because I may spend a lot of time dressing up and then not stay at the club. I completely avoid "formal" dance clubs. Getting in a gown isn't my idea of casual fun. Especially considering that I have problems fitting prim gowns to my specific avatar dimensions.

9. Good music is a plus, but not as important as everything else. Even though I'm not particularly a blues or jazz fan, my favorite clubs play either blues or jazz.

10. Overuse of gestures, automated anatomy, and chat spam will drive me away from a place. I keep most inworld sounds turned off specifically because I hate overuse of gestures.

11. If a club wants me to be a part of its group for notices and such, then the notices shouldn't be over-used, and group chat rarely to never used.

Awww, how sweet. Thank you!!

What? I'm not your ONLY heart's desire anymore?

/me flips her hair over her shoulder and flounces away.

Well.... I'm definitely no guy.

Personally, I don't like places that change everything every few weeks. I like some familiarity, some things to stay constant. If I bring a friend in and I've been telling them about the place, the decor, the layout, I don't want it to all be different each time I come.

LMAO - Go, Brann, Go !!!

I remember a very popular club a year ago where the Managers danced with unescorted patrons. There were women who came who knew there would be a guy to dance with (and vice versa for the men). I think that is something (among other factors) that made that club so popular.

Actually it is not as much my concern if you or anyone else here visits my club. It would be nice to see any and all of the people that post here there. I always enjoy meeting new people and since i am there a majority of the time i am in sl right now...well there i'd be. I didnt give the name and you can feel free not to take the LM. I was actually just curious about...what makes you go (bad wording I know hehe). I know what interests me it is just interesting to know if i am far off the mark with what interests others. I would enjoy visiting a new place and i would hope you all would share your with me. i do it for fun so, sorry if you think there is some thinly vield ad in there it was not my intention I do post my ads in the appropriate sections. I have enjoyed reading your opinions and will continue to read them faithfully as should all club owners or any business owners to avoid the many pitfalls that lead to bad service.

Thank you and have a nice day!
Lilliana

For me one o my biggest turn offs for any club is the oversexualisation of it in any respect. When I go to a club and the hosts are 1/2 naked, esp at the beginning of an event, or are suggesting everyone get naked, or are commenting on how hot i am when i walk in i generally hate the place (sadly normally I cant walk out cos my partner may be DJing there for the night, but i tend not to interact and dont want to return.)

I like a club with a good crowd, friendly welcoming people, who try to include me a great DJing and a decent amount of chat i can join in with. I HATE most gestures.... esp the over use of them. Once in a while ok i dont mind so much.

I find myself most of the time, and since I have joined at a sim called Mysteria. I like this sim because it isnt JUST a club, just a club holds no real interest to me. On the other hand mysteria has a lounge to sit and hang out, a beach, a place to dance and DJs, a mall etc etc IT has a bit of everything and it isnt always abotu dancing I can sit and chill as well which i like.

Yes - I'm pretty sure I know that club. There were many factors that made it (deservedly) popular, but the owners and staff were the biggest ones. Great bunch of people.

I miss that place...

I'm already a regular at a club run by some friends. The thing that makes me go there is the people.

What makes me GO to a club I haven't been to before? Looking in search, events or wherever clubs/events might be found, the things I look for are:

1. Announcements/ads that actually list the type of music being/to be played. Just saying you are having an event and assuming everyone knows your club plays a certain type of music or just listing the DJ's name without saying what type of music is not helpful. I'm not a mind reader and I don't know which DJ plays what kind of music.

2. Music I actually like. Metal, Industrial, Goth, disco, 70's pop, 80's pop, blues, classic rock, oldies, even punk, alternative or some mix of musical genre's, nearly anything except that usual dance/techno/house/trance stuff or Hip Hop/Rap. I don't care if it's a good commercial free radio station or a DJ.

3. Everyone is welcome. By that I mean it literally says that everyone is welcome or specifies that it's gay-friendly (or alternative lifestyle friendly or some indication that non-straight and/or non-human, etc. avatars are welcome or unwelcome, if that's the case). I've gone to too many clubs where I did not feel comfortable because of the rudeness directed at different groups of people, especially homophobic comments. I don't want to hear cruel jokes or bashing or whatever of any type/group of people, even if I am not a part of that group or subculture.

4. A clickable SURL, searchable location name or publicly accessible group notices which have a LM in the notices. Saying "come to Club Whatever" and then not giving a specific location or giving only "located in the Such and Such Sim or at the So and So Mall" is not enough. And if the name of the club, "Club Whatever", is not listed in general, classified or places search, it means I can't come to your club since I can't find it.

What makes me STAY at a club and/or return more than once? (in addition to the above)

1. Lowish lag IN THE CLUB which means simple textures, minimal objects, etc. And, preferably, no campers anywhere in the sim but, at the very least, none in the immediate area of the club. If it takes forever for me to rez or causes me to crash or not be able to move, I don't stay or go back. Put the club away from the mall or shopping area or even in the sky so I don't have to rez the mall textures and load the mall objects when I get to the club.

2. Basically lighted so I can see but no moving, swirling, flashing lights, laser beams or anything else that gets in the way of clicking on things or focusing my camera. Also, all that crap makes me nauseous. No particle emitters. Dance floors that are lighted or have a design are fine but the kind that have moving textures/pictures also make me want to hurl.

3. Friendly staff capable of conversing instead of just constantly reminding people to tip the host/dancers/DJ, etc. I don't expect constant, interesting conversation but it's nice to join in a conversation now and again. A good host can make comments or introduce topics every so often to get people chatting a bit.

Things I do not care about at all so do not attract or repel me:

1. Contests/themes of any kind. Theme nights, contests, etc. can be interesting with enough advance notice to give time to shop, but most the time I'm not going to make much, if any, effort if I'm not already a regular at a club. And even then I don't always dress up.

2. Games, club employed dancers and/or strippers, or other additional activities. Some informal trivia is fun sometimes but, otherwise, I'm there to listen to the music, dance and occasionally chat, that's it.

Things that will make me LEAVE immediately or almost immediately:

1. Too much lag
2. Too many moving lights, etc
3. Rudeness or hostility by staff or by other patrons on a consistent basis
4. Anyone implying (or stating flat out) that themed/contest dress is mandatory
5. Not being able to use my own dance chimera since scripts are turned off

It's pretty rare that I go to a new-to-me club on my own as I've yet to find many listings/ads for clubs that meet even my minimum criteria of enough information, music I like, and the ability to actually find it. Most new-to-me clubs I go to are ones that a friend goes to or knows about and then asks me to join them there. I will usually stay while the friend is there but it's rare that I return to most of them a second time because, in general, they have music I don't like, too many migraine producing lights or are nearly impossible navigate easily because of lights, overly cluttered with objects or have mega-lag.

Friendly conversation will make me stay longer and probably come back sooner. This seems to be a popular trait.

The overuse of voice chat will make me leave and never come back. I don't use voice and don't understand why some are so militant that I simply must have it.

Keeping the lag down as much as possible will make me want to come back.

Minimal chat spam and ASCII art. I don't mind a little in the appropriate places, but keeping my screen full of that stuff just makes me want to leave.

Overuse of group notices will keep me far, far away. Again, this seems to be a popular item. The clubs that send out one calendar of events per week or just maintain a Google calendar or similar for their events are more preferable.

I'm indifferent to contests. If I show up, I will come as I am anyway. I don't tend to enter too many contests. It's simply not worth the effort for L$250 or L$500. I don't care if the club has them and I don't care if the club doesn't have them.