Greenlife stalkability functions

I have, quite frankly gotten very fed up with people using the greenlife function where they can just port to me as if they had "see my location" enabled (As long as they are in the same sim) If I wanted people to be able to do it, I would grant people map rights.

I have now, placed a note on my profile saying;

"NOTE!! Any one that uses the greenlife stalkability functions on me will immediately be removed from my friends list, muted and ARed for invasion of privacy."

If I was to go through with the ARing. Would it have any mind paid to it by LL? I really do find it wrong to be doing something private only to have a friend you hardly know port in and find out your dity little secrets.

Fortunately that hasnt happened how ever on many occasions Ive had people porting in on my while Im working then get ratty at me when I ignore them because Im working.

What is the "greenlife stalkability function?" Is greenlife a different client?

Dunno what greenlife is but it sounds like a 3rd-party viewer.

I think there's something in the IM protocol that will get you the slurl of somebody just by opening up a session with them. Don't need to actually send anything - just opening the session will do.

Personally, I'd probably ask them not to map me like that the first time and unfriend them if they couldn't respect that.

maybe he is talking about how your friends are a different color on the map.

Just looked it up; it is a 3rd party viewer, Meade, you were right.

http://modularsystems.sl/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3&Itemid=4

Greenlife is a third party viewer with a built-in avatar scanner and some other features that make it easier to track people.

Woooo! What do I win??

/me maps Oryx and TPs over to collect her prize!

/me hands Meade a hedgehog stole.

Seriously though, if the OP doesn't like the functionality that seems to be inherent in that particular viewer, maybe he should try a different viewer?

Yeah. It takes the normal minimap data and makes it a little easier to get at. It offers direct buttons for profile, teleport, track on map, etc.

I don't think LL is going to be too worried that this information is being displayed in the Greenlife viewer, if minimap dots were meant to be private the messages for the map dots wouldn't have UUIDs attached.

The official 1.23 RC lets you see the names for minimap dots and offers a profile link too, so pretty soon everyone will have this "stalkability" power.

That's a standard LL feature... Emerald Greenlife goes further. Including a built in scanner, other location options, and doubleclick to TP. (^_^)

That said; my entire friends list gets map privileges on me. I never do anything I'm too embarrassed to be seen doing if someone were to *poof* in. Though... ~YOU~ may be quite embarrassed or offended upon landing. No "privacy" paranoia on me. =^-^=

Er.. One made from hedgies?? /me eeks!!


I think it's something in the SL protocol itself - it's other people that can do it to you because they are running a different viewer that's the problem... I think.

I use the standard viewer. Its them using greenlife and them porting in on me.

And its not so much the privacy but more the insessant badgering I get when they decide I should be spending my time and attention on them instead of trying to earn money then I can eat that night.

I do do private things but thats on a sim where I can easily set access rights to... Well... No on other than me and the person Im being private with, which gets rid of the prospects of them porting in on me while some one is well....... 'getting jiggy with it'

It is annoying beyond belief though. I have granted mapping rights to many on my list but only ones I trust not to just bounce in on me... To check where I am before hand and if they feel I dont want to be bothered. I.E 600m up on the employee only sky platform above the club I DJ at before tp'ing in.

Question still stands though. As a consensus (spelling?) would people think "breaking privacy" would stand if I was to AR any one. I would only goto that lengh to people who knew I didnt want them doing it and still did.

Greenlife users can tp to people by double clicking on their name from the built in radar- why the hell anyone would want to do that unexpectedly is beyond me and is cause for me kill them off the friends list and AR them if not on friends list for stalking if it happened more than once. I have the GL and other than to drop in on someone uninvited visiting our home, I have yet to need to tp to someone that didnt know i was coming.

Now the double click to tp to cam sight is bloody awesome! Who needs teleporters to get upstairs- woohoo!

Actually it can be a bit of a problem. I don't mind people mapping me either, but the friends list works a little differently than the rest of SL.

Basically if you have ~ 1000 on your friend list, having everone be able to see your online status and map you is a great recipe for a frozen avatar on login. Repeatedly. No IM's, no inventory, nothing. Stuck. Unable to repair it.

Been through deleting a 1000+ member friendlist twice already, and if there's software that forces these functions especially for when you first log in, it could be a bad thing.

Community Standards does have a fairly open-ended harassment rule in it. There is also a disturbing the peace rule in there, that says we can't "inhibit another Resident's ability to enjoy Second Life" among other things. If you want to do the AR thing, you'll want to phrase it in terms of those rules and how they are being broken. LL isn't likely to care so much *how* it's being done, more that people are giving you a hard time.

I have never tired it at all other than the one time- but havent tried it off the friends list-I will see if there are any willing guinea pigs on tonight.

Greenlife doesn't bypass the friends list map permission thing. Even if you go into admin mode, pressing "find on map" from the friends panel will just give you a map with your own position. It uses minimap data, for the track thing it's really just drawing a beacon to match the minimap dot. It's not a gridwide thing.

It's not necessarily about being embarassed or paranoid, it's more just good manners. Even if given the privilege, which I never want to begin with, I wouldn't go busting in on someone unannounced, nor would I appreciate it being done to me.

That sounds pretty harmless. I thought this was about somebody mapping you from way across the grid..

So did I... I was going to say "that suxxorz" but if it just uses the Minimap...

I beg for it. Usually when I TP into a sim, everyone *poof*s away. (>_<

I never said it did... Infact I said quite the oposite. I said you needed to be in the same sim.






This is another valid point and something else I get arsey about. Im a prim and well mannored English person with a stiff upper lip and an elitist personality. So the bad mannors of poofing in unannounced while Im doing something else gets to me for that reason too.

Somewhere in my inventory, I have an avie scanner that was freely available in 2004. It reminded me of an orrery: it had a ball with a name above it, that of the avatar whose sim location corresponded to the scaled vector of the displayed colored ball. It would also whisper name and I think location of the avie, when s/he came into range and left it again. Using it as a warning device, we used to sit on the deck of a friend who had a stray avie problem: strays would find us and presume we wanted to talk about any old thing, or even sometimes shoot at us. We called that river of avies the Great Northern Flyway.

I was going to accuse you of being Pep's alt until you said "well mannered".

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That now must be a joke of you!!!!

U have been around since 2006 and you don't know about the VERY EASY way to see your location within a SIM?

Almost every scanner tool finds you and even it is only shown the distance in meters even a 10 years old kid would find you! So where is a problem?