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Ralektra Breda
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12-17-2008 11:39
I typically use Mozilla, but when I click a link in game it opens in IE. Recently someone posted a link in a group I was in and I clicked it and ended up with Virtuomonde (sp?) and could not get rid of it. I ended up having to reformat. No more links from game :(
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Novis Dyrssen
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12-17-2008 14:20
I am still very much opposed to Google's Chrome. May be fast, but transfers everything you do right back to the information collecting giant.
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Lauralynne Cuddihy
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12-17-2008 14:26
Microsoft released a patch to fix this today... you can go here to see what to do:

http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/111811
Adiatha Bishop
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12-17-2008 14:30
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The other reason I'm asking this now....is over the past couple days my brwoser has been freezing up.....locking up when I close it, so that I have to ctrl-alt-delete......this is new......I cleaned everything up and it seems to be ok now....but still.....it has me wondering if I should switch browsers. I'm on a Dell....WindowsXP..... no real problems with connectivity and speed and so on......but some solid wisdom here would be mucho appreciated.
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Same thing happened to me. I disabled all of the add-ons and that solved the problem. Go to Tools | Manage Add Ons | Enable or Disable Add Ons.
I disabled them all and IE worked great. You might decide to be more selective. (Anyhow you can re-enable anything you need.)
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12-17-2008 14:40
From: Milla Alexandre
Big article today on the hazards of Internet Explorer.
I recommend on Windows that you use Firefox. On Mac OS, Safari (but turn OFF "open safe files after downloading";). Whatever browser you use, create a separate "Downloads" folder for it, rather than downloading files to the desktop.

Don't stuff the browser with extensions and toolbars. The only extension I use in Firefox is Flashblock.

I can't give you the rest of my suggestions because there's some kind of anti-spam filter in the forum that thinks something I wrote is spam sign. :(
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12-17-2008 14:43
From: Ralektra Breda
I typically use Mozilla, but when I click a link in game it opens in IE.
You need to change the default browser to Mozilla or FIrefox. There should be an option in the browser itself to do that.
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12-17-2008 14:46
From: Yosef Okelly
Believe it or not, Firefox has many more security flaws than IE,
Firefox has more published flaws, but they publish EVERYTHING they change, in detail, because their development process is open. If Microsoft made their internal bug-tracking system available to the public I think we would see a different result.

From: Phil Deakins
IE is the most used browser by a very long way. As such, it is the standard browser and is likely to remain so for some time yet - at least. The security safety in other browsers isn't because they are more secure, but because they are minority browsers that are not worth attacking when compared to IE.
There are deep and fundamental design flaws in IE, flaws not shared with any other browser, that are widely published and Microsoft has left unfixed for a decade.

Getting back to Yosef's comment: this does not make me feel happy about the number of flaws they've noticed internally that ever get fixed.
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Meade Paravane
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12-17-2008 14:48
From: Argent Stonecutter
I recommend on Windows that you use Firefox.

/me is always wary of these kinds of statements because some take it to mean that <favorite browser> protects them from doing foolish things. Very often, this is not the case.
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12-17-2008 14:50
From: Meade Paravane
/me is always wary of these kinds of statements because some take it to mean that <favorite browser> protects them from doing foolish things.
Firefox is not my favorite browser. On OS X it's my third choice, after Camino and Safari. Unfortunately Windows does not have as many good browsers available, and the Windows port of Safari seems a bit naive in some of the ways it behaves... so I'd rather not recommend it yet.
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Phoenixa Sol
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12-17-2008 15:07
From: Brenda Connolly
MS doesn't sell computers, what would be the point in that for them?



MS does sell operating systems, which are loaded onto most computers. Many people who dont really know how to use them, dont take the steps to keep their machines clear, and clean them out. They think it's broken and go buy a new one. Not everyone is as enlightened as you are. In the last 8 years, I've saved many people that expense by cleaning the gunk out and showing them how to prevent it.
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12-17-2008 15:12
:0 jumps in, dunno if this is good but i'd consider paypal's recommendations to be, for lack of better for now, the 'gold/diamond standard'...

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Phoenixa Sol
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12-17-2008 15:16
From: Phil Deakins
It's more likely caused by the type of sites your friend visits ;)


Newsflash. One of the machines I fixed, the children in the family (both under 10), were getting "would you like to download and install (insert handy sounding but malicious program here)" type messages in their kid game sites and clicking YES. They were also getting stung using search engines for home work assignments. No one in the family knew how to properly maintain the machine.

Point here, it isn't only porn.

Had a blast removing around 970 instances, and then teaching the entire family how to take care of their machine.
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Ciaran Laval
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12-17-2008 15:21
From: Phoenixa Sol
Point here, it isn't only porn.


Not at all, this latest security issue is related to people trying to access passwords for game sites apparently.
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12-17-2008 15:24
From: Ciaran Laval
Not at all, this latest security issue is related to people trying to access passwords for game sites apparently.


Which is a porn substitute for some people
DancesWithRobots Soyer
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12-17-2008 17:31
Firefox, with "NoScript" installed is practically bulletproof, tho, it can be a little annoying at times having to enable scripts temporarily on some web sites. And, VERY occasionally, something won't work unless it's viewed with IE. But you can't find more security that's easier to install and maintain.
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12-17-2008 17:47
From: DancesWithRobots Soyer
Firefox, with "NoScript" installed is practically bulletproof,
The scripting model in Firefox is not designed to be inherently unsafe the way it is in IE. I would not, professional paranoid security guy that I am, bother with that additional layer of protection.
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Cappy Frantisek
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12-17-2008 17:49
From: Fade Chuwes
Although, I can't play Youtube videos on it because Vista is stupid.

You just now found out Vista sucks raw eggs? LOL
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12-17-2008 17:55
From: Cappy Frantisek
You just now found out Vista sucks raw eggs? LOL
Nothing wrong with sucking raw eggs. Just ask any weasel.
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Ralektra Breda
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12-17-2008 18:02
From: Argent Stonecutter
You need to change the default browser to Mozilla or FIrefox. There should be an option in the browser itself to do that.


I did that, I found that button on my 2nd day. And I have chosen Firefox multiple times, but everything from in game still opens in IE. So I just figured it was a typical non-working option lol

and I always run 'no script' in firefox
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12-17-2008 18:03
From: Argent Stonecutter
Nothing wrong with sucking raw eggs. Just ask any weasel.


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Kira Zobel
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12-17-2008 18:17
From: Fade Chuwes
Personally, I use FireFox.

Although, I can't play Youtube videos on it because Vista is stupid.


I use firefox and youtube on vista with no problem. What isn't working?
Phil Deakins
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12-17-2008 18:21
From: Yngwie Krogstad
I know this is going off-topic, but.....

Somebody touched on something earlier that's a huge problem. Not only with Micro$oft, but also Apple, with their browser alternative, Opera, Netscape, Firefox, all browsers really.

Cross-browser compatibility.

There is a body already in place to determine standards. It's called the World Wide Web Consortium, or W3C for short. If everybody writing browser code would actually make them W3C compliant, and website creators would only use W3C compliant code, there'd be no reason to be forced to use IE for certain websites, or find websites that just plain won't work with a specific browser.

What's the point of defined standards if nobody cares?
The problem with that is that W3C doesn't create standards - they only create recommendations.

Another problem with it is that no browser is fully W3C compliant. They all pick and choose what to implement from the W3C recommendations, so creating a webpage for a browser that implements certain things doesn't mean that the page will display properly in another browser that chose not to implement certain things. The result is that we see pages and stylesheets that include all manner of workarounds so that they will display reasonably well in this browser, that browser and the other browser, and it's always been a right royal pain in the butt except for the period when Netscape was scrapped and IE was the only browser in sight (except maybe odd ones like Opera that had such tiny userships that they weren't worth bothering with).
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12-18-2008 00:23
From: Ralektra Breda
I did that, I found that button on my 2nd day. And I have chosen Firefox multiple times, but everything from in game still opens in IE. So I just figured it was a typical non-working option lol
The game should use whatever your default browser is. If you type start->run in Windows and enter a URL or click a URL in the chat window in SL you should get the same browser opening. If you don't, then there's something wrong with your Windows configuration... not SL, Windows.
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12-18-2008 00:27
From: Phil Deakins
Another problem with it is that no browser is fully W3C compliant. They all pick and choose what to implement from the W3C recommendations,
Actually, there is a set of tests based on the W3C standards, called the ACID tests, now in their third iteration (ACID3). All the major browsers but IE have taken passing these tests as a major goal, and Microsoft at least recognizes it as a desirable one. So, no, they don't just "pick and choose".

And even if you just stick to IE, you STILL have to use a bunch of hacks in HTML and CSS to maintain compatibility across multiple versions of IE.
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Heidi Stiglitz
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12-18-2008 01:26
I haven't seen it mentioned here, but I've used Opera for a number of years. It's worked better than the others for me. Only site I've had trouble lately is Hotmail, and I have the same problem there with all browsers other than IE since their recent revamp of the site.
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