Age Verified - Not Age Verified
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Rock Vacirca
riches to rags
Join date: 18 Oct 2006
Posts: 1,093
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07-03-2009 12:23
From: Ciaran Laval Try teleporting to the sim Rock is having trouble teleporting to, I can still get there and I can see in the land options that non age verified residents are blocked so the system is still treating me as age verified. Ciaran, many thanks for that. Could i ask you to do a quick check for me? Could you tp there once more, and let me know the following settings: World, Region/Estate, Region tab, (what is the Rating set to?) World, Region/Estate, Estate tab, (what is the Allow Public access setting set to?) About Land, Access tab, (what is the parcel Allow Public Access setting set to?) Many thanks Rock
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LittleMe Jewell
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Join date: 8 Oct 2007
Posts: 11,319
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07-03-2009 12:31
From: Ciaran Laval Try teleporting to the sim Rock is having trouble teleporting to, I can still get there and I can see in the land options that non age verified residents are blocked so the system is still treating me as age verified. I can TP to the sim, BUT I cannot get to the NE corner of it. That one parcel does have the "Mature Content" box check, but the message I get is that I am not on the Access List. I could not find any other parcels on the land that had the Mature Content flag set. Then, while I was hovering in the air, checking the settings of different parcels, some guy came up and stared at me. I said Hi, he said Hello, and then a few min later I was TPd home. And ignored my IM asking why he did so. Relogging with a different viewer to see if I get different results (was on with Snow Globe). ETA: I see that I was checking the wrong settings for this. Back I go -- assuming the guy does not TP me out again. - - - NO GO, I have apparently been added to the ban list for my transgression of hovering near the one corner than has ban lines up around it.
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Ciaran Laval
Mostly Harmless
Join date: 11 Mar 2007
Posts: 7,951
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07-03-2009 12:34
From: Rock Vacirca World, Region/Estate, Region tab, (what is the Rating set to?) The sim is mature. From: Rock Vacirca World, Region/Estate, Estate tab, (what is the Allow Public access setting set to?) People who aren't estate managers or owners can't see this information, they also can't see ban lists at estate level either. From: Rock Vacirca About Land, Access tab, (what is the parcel Allow Public Access setting set to?) Allow public access is ticked, block access by residents who are not age verified adults is also ticked, as this appears on all plots I've checked I'd have to assume this has been set at region level.
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Ciaran Laval
Mostly Harmless
Join date: 11 Mar 2007
Posts: 7,951
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07-03-2009 12:37
From: LittleMe Jewell I can TP to the sim, BUT I cannot get to the NE corner of it. That one parcel does have the "Mature Content" box check, but the message I get is that I am not on the Access List. That parcel is restricted to group access only.
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LittleMe Jewell
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Join date: 8 Oct 2007
Posts: 11,319
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07-03-2009 12:41
From: LittleMe Jewell ETA: I see that I was checking the wrong settings for this. Back I go -- assuming the guy does not TP me out again. - - - NO GO, I have apparently been added to the ban list for my transgression of hovering near the one corner than has ban lines up around it. So many people whine about LL shooting first and maybe asking questions later, but I see so many of the so-called "estate manager/watchdogs" doing the same thing.
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Why do you sit there looking like an envelope without any address on it? ~Mark Twain~ Optimism is denial, so face the facts and move on. ♥♥♥ Lil's Yard Sale / Inventory Cleanout: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Triggerfish/52/27/22 . http://www.flickr.com/photos/littleme_jewell
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Ciaran Laval
Mostly Harmless
Join date: 11 Mar 2007
Posts: 7,951
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07-03-2009 12:47
From: LittleMe Jewell So many people whine about LL shooting first and maybe asking questions later, but I see so many of the so-called "estate manager/watchdogs" doing the same thing. Yeah they TP'd me home too, the people running that sim are a bunch of twats.
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Jannae Karas
Just Looking
Join date: 10 Mar 2007
Posts: 1,516
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07-03-2009 12:54
Originally Posted by Ciaran Laval My account page used to tell me I was age verified when I clicked the age verification link, it doesn't anymore. Quote: Originally Posted by Love Hastings I see the same change. From: LittleMe Jewell Okay - nice to know I am not the only one seeing this.
I think I will go ahead and open a ticket to see what is going on. I am seeing this as well.
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Nika Talaj
now you see her ...
Join date: 2 Jan 2007
Posts: 5,449
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07-03-2009 12:59
From: Jannae Karas Originally Posted by Ciaran Laval My account page used to tell me I was age verified when I clicked the age verification link, it doesn't anymore.... I have hopes that it is the first step to getting rid of the buggy "age verification" process and parcel implementation altogether. Sim managers probably are not aware of the fact that it doesn't work well at all, and the confusion between that tickbox and LL's "Adult" rating is rampant. .
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Trinity Concertina
Registered User
Join date: 18 Nov 2006
Posts: 439
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They don't want help to fix their issues obviously
07-03-2009 12:59
I have been a long time friend so I thought to the Estate Owner...even helped her buy the Island and was Estate Manager for the longest time but, given how much drama is going on over there I stopped going over and today when trying to help them fix their age verification issue I started getting ignored AGAIN. So, I removed them all off my FL and have no association with them anymore as I have given up on trying to be nice and help where I'm not wanted. Just to let it be known. Rock, you would be wise to do the same hun. Cheers
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Wanda Rosca
Registered User
Join date: 19 Jun 2007
Posts: 1
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Try doing Age verify AND Account info
07-05-2009 09:15
From: Rock Vacirca Strange thing is, two other friends of mine have attempted to tp there, and get the same You must be age-verified to enter this region. Looking at the world map I can see there are several green dots there.
I wonder if it is a case of the rating on World, Region, Rating (and setting this to Adult) working one way, while the About Land, Access tab, Block Access by: Residents who are not age verified adults, working in a different way?
Rock I think if you do both, Age verify AND account verify you may see a change and can get on those sims. If not, I would be contacting the sim owner and find out what you need to get to them. They are losing a lot of business when people can't get to them.
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Argent Stonecutter
Emergency Mustelid
Join date: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 20,263
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07-05-2009 09:43
LL needs to just get rid of that "age verified" parcel option altogether.
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Pussycat Catnap
Sex Kitten
Join date: 15 Jun 2009
Posts: 1,131
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07-05-2009 09:53
Congratulations and welcome to my world: http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/WEB-1153If you want to manually test this to be absolutely sure you face an age-verification bug, search for the club 'Furvana' The TP takes you to outside of their age-verify ban line. Try to walk inside. If you can't, you're screwed. I can now enter there, I seem to be age-verified finally, even though the webpage for it keeps popping up. On my un-verified alt, I cannot enter - their ban lines are there and visible when you try to walk in, so its a great way to test.
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Pussycat Catnap
Sex Kitten
Join date: 15 Jun 2009
Posts: 1,131
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07-05-2009 10:20
I'm on the Tien Lung sim right now.
I also got into 2 clubs that yesterday I could not enter.
About Land for Tien Lung says:
[X] Residents who are not age-verified adults
But Until I hit the NE corner, I was fine. NE corner just says I'm not on access list.
Yesterday Furvana was telling me 'you must be age verified'
- The age verify webpage of secondlife.com still wants me to submit the form, but I seem to have managed to overcome things anyway???
Going to repeat all of this one a new alt, and see what happens.
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Pussycat Catnap
Sex Kitten
Join date: 15 Jun 2009
Posts: 1,131
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07-05-2009 10:38
Ok... new alt has problems with Tien Lung and Furvana. Well, I guess somebody heard me and fixed my account somewhere.
To the Original Poster; I don't know what to say now - except to submit a ticket and reference the fact that you've already done manual verification.
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Argent Stonecutter
Emergency Mustelid
Join date: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 20,263
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07-05-2009 10:49
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Rock Vacirca
riches to rags
Join date: 18 Oct 2006
Posts: 1,093
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07-05-2009 11:00
From: Pussycat Catnap Ok... new alt has problems with Tien Lung and Furvana. Well, I guess somebody heard me and fixed my account somewhere.
To the Original Poster; I don't know what to say now - except to submit a ticket and reference the fact that you've already done manual verification. I also cannot get into Furvana Ticket has been submitted a few days ago. This is what the latest response said (from Frontier Linden): From: someone I'm sorry to hear about that Rock. Our new viewer is still in development so there may be some bugs left to work out. I'd like to take a further look into this for you. Please reopen this ticket and provide me with exact steps I can take to see if I can reproduce this issue and then look into a solution. For example, may I have the name of a region you are unable to access. Thanks a bunch! Rock
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LittleMe Jewell
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Join date: 8 Oct 2007
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07-05-2009 11:19
From: Pussycat Catnap Ok... new alt has problems with Tien Lung and Furvana. Well, I guess somebody heard me and fixed my account somewhere.
To the Original Poster; I don't know what to say now - except to submit a ticket and reference the fact that you've already done manual verification. See this JIRA: http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-3923I still cannot get to SOME parcels marked for Age Verification BUT can get to others. And best I can tell, it does not ALWAYS tie in with the parcel option of requiring payment info and/or the box labeled 'mature content'.
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Why do you sit there looking like an envelope without any address on it? ~Mark Twain~ Optimism is denial, so face the facts and move on. ♥♥♥ Lil's Yard Sale / Inventory Cleanout: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Triggerfish/52/27/22 . http://www.flickr.com/photos/littleme_jewell
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Nika Talaj
now you see her ...
Join date: 2 Jan 2007
Posts: 5,449
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07-05-2009 11:28
Good bug, but I would rather start a new Jira to do away completely with this redundant, bug-ridden and ineffective Parcel flag for age verification. The fact that it uses different account verification criteria than that which LL requires for Adult access is unbelievably confusing, and as you point out it has been buggy since 2007. If we need parcel permissions to limit according to account status, then it should be a form of the Adult flag. Also, age verification via Aristotle seemingly doesn't work for some nationalities, almost forcing users to submit fake verification info. Would anyone on this thread vote for such a Jira? .
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Milla Janick
Empress Of The Universe
Join date: 2 Jan 2008
Posts: 3,075
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07-05-2009 11:31
From: Pussycat Catnap Ok... new alt has problems with Tien Lung and Furvana. Well, I guess somebody heard me and fixed my account somewhere. Did you restart your viewer after age verifying the new alt? My account appears to be age verified now, as does an alt which was unverified before this morning. The age verification page still shows the form for all my accounts now, even the ones that were previously age verified.
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Argent Stonecutter
Emergency Mustelid
Join date: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 20,263
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07-05-2009 11:34
From: Nika Talaj Good bug, but I would rather start a new Jira to do away completely with this redundant, bug-ridden and ineffective Parcel flag for age verification. The fact that it uses different account verification criteria than that which LL requires for Adult access is unbelievably confusing, and as you point out it has been buggy since 2007. If we need parcel permissions to limit according to account status, then it should be a form of the Adult flag.
Also, age verification via Aristotle seemingly doesn't work for some nationalities, almost forcing users to submit fake verification info.
Would anyone on this thread vote for such a Jira? You mean like http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-4489 
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LittleMe Jewell
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Join date: 8 Oct 2007
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07-05-2009 11:35
From: Rock Vacirca I also cannot get into Furvana Ticket has been submitted a few days ago. This is what the latest response said (from Frontier Linden): From: someone I'm sorry to hear about that Rock. Our new viewer is still in development so there may be some bugs left to work out. I'd like to take a further look into this for you. Please reopen this ticket and provide me with exact steps I can take to see if I can reproduce this issue and then look into a solution. For example, may I have the name of a region you are unable to access. Thanks a bunch! Rock Wow - so their 1.23 viewer is still in development? And "Please reopen this ticket and provide me with exact steps I can take" implies that he closed the ticket and if you want to give more info then you can reopen it. Support truly amazes me around this place. 
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Why do you sit there looking like an envelope without any address on it? ~Mark Twain~ Optimism is denial, so face the facts and move on. ♥♥♥ Lil's Yard Sale / Inventory Cleanout: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Triggerfish/52/27/22 . http://www.flickr.com/photos/littleme_jewell
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LittleMe Jewell
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Join date: 8 Oct 2007
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07-05-2009 11:37
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♥♥♥ -Lil
Why do you sit there looking like an envelope without any address on it? ~Mark Twain~ Optimism is denial, so face the facts and move on. ♥♥♥ Lil's Yard Sale / Inventory Cleanout: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Triggerfish/52/27/22 . http://www.flickr.com/photos/littleme_jewell
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LittleMe Jewell
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Join date: 8 Oct 2007
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07-05-2009 11:41
From: Nika Talaj Good bug, but I would rather start a new Jira to do away completely with this redundant, bug-ridden and ineffective Parcel flag for age verification. The fact that it uses different account verification criteria than that which LL requires for Adult access is unbelievably confusing, and as you point out it has been buggy since 2007. If we need parcel permissions to limit according to account status, then it should be a form of the Adult flag.
Also, age verification via Aristotle seemingly doesn't work for some nationalities, almost forcing users to submit fake verification info.
Would anyone on this thread vote for such a Jira? . We definitely need to just get rid of that age verify check. I simply posted the JIRA to show the bug and the fact that it has been there forever.
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♥♥♥ -Lil
Why do you sit there looking like an envelope without any address on it? ~Mark Twain~ Optimism is denial, so face the facts and move on. ♥♥♥ Lil's Yard Sale / Inventory Cleanout: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Triggerfish/52/27/22 . http://www.flickr.com/photos/littleme_jewell
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Nika Talaj
now you see her ...
Join date: 2 Jan 2007
Posts: 5,449
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07-05-2009 11:53
Ah! Ty, Argent, sorry I didn't catch your earlier post ... voted! .
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Nic Writer
Registered User
Join date: 25 Mar 2007
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07-05-2009 12:14
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