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can i get people's opinions on some things?

Juralp Grun
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06-22-2008 17:43
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all done, thanks!
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06-22-2008 17:51
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Osgeld Barmy
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06-22-2008 17:53
1a) creepy
1b) 3-5
1c) see 1a
1d) fine as long as they are not on the adult grid

2a) odd but fine
2b) 5-10 theres atleast one at any public event
2c) see 2a

3a) odd but fine
3b) 1-3 rarely
3c) see 3a

4a) noone needs that much porn
4b) its an adult game, if you want to present yourself as a child, then you should be expected to be treated like one, if your treating them like children and mixing adult pleasures, well see 1a

ok i await my royal roasting for calling ppl creepy
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06-22-2008 17:56
I think all the things you ask about are fine. I do not know what child-friendly areas you hang out at that have porn, I've never seen any.

However, I think surveys seeking negative opinions on already-beleagered members of our community for undisclosed reasons are offensive.

And no, I am not joking.
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Peggy Paperdoll
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06-22-2008 17:56
From: Osgeld Barmy
1a) creepy
1b) 3-5
1c) see 1a
1d) fine as long as they are not on the adult grid

2a) odd but fine
2b) 5-10 theres atleast one at any public event
2c) see 2a

3a) odd but fine
3b) 1-3 rarely
3c) see 3a

4a) noone needs that much porn
4b) its an adult game, if you want to present yourself as a child, then you should be expected to be treated like one, if your treating them like children and mixing adult pleasures, well see 1a

ok i await my royal roasting for calling ppl creepy


No roasting from me. Pretty much in line with my thoughts..........but much more diplomatically presented.

On question number 4.............this is still and ADULT GRID. Which simply means there should be no rl children here.
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06-22-2008 18:01
yea 4b is a trick question
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06-22-2008 18:06
From: Juralp Grun

1a - what do you think of child avatars?

I don't mind them at all

From: Juralp Grun

1b - on a scale of 1 (being least) to 10 (being most), how often do you see one in a general area?

depends on the areas you go to. so easily 1 to 8

From: Juralp Grun

1c - what do you think of adults who play as child avatars?

to each their own

From: Juralp Grun

1d - what do you thing of rl children who play as child avatars?

Doubt it'll happen. children prefer to be seen as 'big' and even then meh

From: Juralp Grun

2a - what do you think of bi-pedal (two legs, human-esque overall) "furry" avatars?
I'm biased :-P But the majority have their own reasons

From: Juralp Grun

2b - on a scale of 1 (being least) to 10 (being most), how often do you see one in a general area?
In the areas i mainly hang out in... 10

From: Juralp Grun

2c - what do you think of the people in general who play as bi-pedal (two legs, human-esque overall) "furry" avatars?

Most are far more accepting of others, though we get our jerks and griefers in the mix as well.

From: Juralp Grun

3a - what do you think of 4-legged animal avatars?

Ferals are just fine

From: Juralp Grun

3b - on a scale of 1 (being least) to 10 (being most), how often do you see one in a general area?

Hmm, I'd say about 1 in most areas and 6 in some of the woodland rp sims I visit

From: Juralp Grun

3c - what do you thing of people in general who play as 4-legged animal avatars?

Up to them, gives them a different perspective.... and it's fun at times *dusts off his feral huskeh*


From: Juralp Grun

4a - what do you think of the mass amount of porn-related items, even in some common areas?

Welcome to the world of humanity. Porn is a subjective term, in many places what you consider non-porn is considered vile filth.

From: Juralp Grun

4b - do you think those kind of vendors should be removed from places that has kids? (the mature islands that has kid-friendly names, i.e. )

By the rules it already is, and the names don't matter. It's the rating of the land.



Question:
Why do we get so many people asking things that can be considered borderline trolling...
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06-22-2008 18:14
From: Juralp Grun
i'm just wanting people's opinions on some situations, and then rate each on on how often they see it. this is for something i'm planning on doing later.
just in case it's not clear, when i say "general area", i mean like noob islands, freebie islands, theme park areas, general cities, etc. i do NOT mean mature islands

1a - what do you think of child avatars?

I think they are at least as agreeable a part of the SL scene as any other sort of avatar (assuming all avatars in question are not being misused)

1b - on a scale of 1 (being least) to 10 (being most), how often do you see one in a general area?

About 3

1c - what do you think of adults who play as child avatars?

I think they are expressing a fantasy that they find enjoyable or beneficial, like most other adults who play as avatars in SL.

1d - what do you thing of rl children who play as child avatars?

I think they don't exist, except in the fevered minds of sickos who see representations of children and can think only about their being misused for sex.

2a - what do you think of bi-pedal (two legs, human-esque overall) "furry" avatars?

See 1a. An avatar is an avatar is an avatar.

2b - on a scale of 1 (being least) to 10 (being most), how often do you see one in a general area?

About 6 or 7

2c - what do you think of the people in general who play as bi-pedal (two legs, human-esque overall) "furry" avatars?

See 1c


3a - what do you think of 4-legged animal avatars?

See 1a

3b - on a scale of 1 (being least) to 10 (being most), how often do you see one in a general area?

3 to 4

3c - what do you thing of people in general who play as 4-legged animal avatars?

See 1c

4a - what do you think of the mass amount of porn-related items, even in some common areas?

I blame it all on those vitamins people take, which enhance their health and therefore indirectly increase their libidos and their interest in porn

4b - do you think those kind of vendors should be removed from places that has kids? (the mature islands that has kid-friendly names, i.e. )


I reject censorship of any sort and consider this idea one of the more odious censorship ideas I've heard in a long while.

Methinks what Juralp is "planning on doing later" involves torches, pitchforks, mass persecution of avatars and the people who own them, and hysterical rantings frequently punctuated with phrases like "think of teh childrens" and "you must be a pedophile if you disagree with me."
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06-22-2008 18:33
Why are you asking for our opinions on these things, Juralp?

Ain't ya got an opinion of your own already?
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06-22-2008 18:48
From: Juralp Grun
i'm just wanting people's opinions on some situations, and then rate each on on how often they see it. this is for something i'm planning on doing later.
just in case it's not clear, when i say "general area", i mean like noob islands, freebie islands, theme park areas, general cities, etc. i do NOT mean mature islands

1a - what do you think of child avatars?
1b - on a scale of 1 (being least) to 10 (being most), how often do you see one in a general area?
1c - what do you think of adults who play as child avatars?
1d - what do you thing of rl children who play as child avatars?

2a - what do you think of bi-pedal (two legs, human-esque overall) "furry" avatars?
2b - on a scale of 1 (being least) to 10 (being most), how often do you see one in a general area?
2c - what do you think of the people in general who play as bi-pedal (two legs, human-esque overall) "furry" avatars?

3a - what do you think of 4-legged animal avatars?
3b - on a scale of 1 (being least) to 10 (being most), how often do you see one in a general area?
3c - what do you thing of people in general who play as 4-legged animal avatars?

4a - what do you think of the mass amount of porn-related items, even in some common areas?
4b - do you think those kind of vendors should be removed from places that has kids? (the mature islands that has kid-friendly names, i.e. )

i had a lolcat pic here then realized that what this thread needs is a lock. we have raked over these coals and all this will do is add gasoline to a subject that many here are truly burned out on.
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Atom Burma
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06-22-2008 18:52
K I have no problem with people roleplaying as kids. I mean I really don't understand it, but i don't understand a lot of things I have crossed tracks with in my life. I don't agree with the logic that this is somehow supposed to be accepted at face value and that everyone who does not understand why a, say 40 year old guy wants to play as a 6yo and then not understand why people don't understand his motives.

It's not the kids, it's this mentality that we should all see a 'mother and daughter' or a 'mother with her four darling kids' and somehow relate that to our lives and think, oh what a cute family. Because it's not, it's a random group of midlife adults who for whatever reasons live as kids.

Now I am not sure if the level of game play is so lengthy, I imagine dark rooms and lots of cans of soda everywhere, or whatever their reasons. And I play as well. I have a tonne of avies and will always dress the part in whatever sim I am in. Even as an explorer. And I have a great imagination. But I just can't let this one go.

But they are definately acting like kids in the forums, I will give them credit for that one. SL5 is going to be an embaressing guirilla take over by screaming bratz, and that is why I am not looking forward to it...at all.
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06-22-2008 18:54
I don't understand the purpose of these questions. Next Contestant , Please.
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06-22-2008 18:56
1a - very cool
1b - 1
1c - great
1d - fair enough
2a - cool
2b - 8
2c - cool
3a - niiice~
3b - 2
3c - cool
4a - interesting
4b - no
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06-22-2008 19:00
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06-22-2008 19:03
1a - *gasp* people dressed as children?! when you can dress up as ANYTHING YOU WANT?! Must be the end of the world!
1b - Fairly often, although I find the line ambiguous.. I've seen small avatars in cute outfits "accused" of being child avatars. Anime characters also tend to look very childish, too..
1c - ..who play what? "Adult" games? Kinda creepy.. but certainly better than anyone doing such things with REAL children!
...Who dress up as a kid and play on a playground? Nice indulgence of your inner child... I have a child shape and some cute clothes.. and have made some playground stuff.. It's FUN to act like a kid!
...Who are ALWAYS children and wish to be treated that way? Only one I ever ran into and know much about was at a mental health group, who felt "safer" that way.. obviously a mental issue, but seems to me a decent way of dealing with PDSD or other similar issues..
1d - Children looking like children is how it's SUPPOSED to be.. just not on the ADULT grid.

2a - Does this refer to upright furries, or the neko thing? Tails and ears that people can yank and stuff are just hilarious.. That right there is good reason to wear 'em!
2b - All the time.
2c - Well, I yell at 'em if they have a tail I can't pull...

3a - Kinda spiffy
3b - Bout the same frequency as dragons, dinosaurs, robots, and other costumes...
3c - ..that they're people who prolly paid a lot for, or spent a lot of time designing, a really nifty costume.
Shoulda seen my dog beat a flying veloceraptor all over the primtionary arena the other day.. it was hilarious!

4a - The porn-type stuff seems excessive to me, but apparently sells extremely well despite the overabundance... It's a wold where people can do whatever they want, so they do... seems pretty natural to me.
4b - While I see good reason to separate anything explicitly for children from anything explicitly for adults.. The idea of removing adult items from mature areas where adults dressed as children could go sounds like a witch hunt to me..

I think this is so ambiguous.. I've made some playground equipment.. I could see displaying some of it in "child" areas.. that's where people would most likely look for such items.. Does that mean I have to keep everything PG from here on out? I don't even have pictures of children playing on the stuff on the boxes.. just me! And even if that meant everything that I made had to stay PG.. My shop and home are in a mature sim.. I can't control that my neighbors do.. Would that mean I couldn't have my playground stuff for sale in a sim designated mature? It's not even for children.. just for FUN.. same as the hoverboarding arena up in the sky..

SL does show some odd, interesting, and disturbing depths of the mind.. I cute the number of slums built here as a prime example of that.. But the SL adult grid is adult-only for a reason... to try to avoid the legal and moral circus that goes along with sticking kids and adults together. (Check out the mess IMVU is making now with restricting boxer shorts (no pun intended) for a good example of that one..)
Overall, aren't child avatars as much a fantasy dress-up game as, say, an Incredible Hulk avatar? Minus the obvious trademark problem with the latter?
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06-22-2008 19:07
1a - what do you think of child avatars?

I have no problem with them existing here at all.

1b - on a scale of 1 (being least) to 10 (being most), how often do you see one in a general area?

I'd give it a 1 for the places that I go. I don't spend alot of time in PG areas though. Most of my time is spent in shops, clubs, at home or visiting friends. The only place that I've encountered them is in a hair shop, perhaps once or twice as a family member of someone I've met, and at couple of Forum Cartel gatherings.

1c - what do you think of adults who play as child avatars?

If that's what someone wants to play for whatever their reasons, who am I to judge.

1d - what do you thing of rl children who play as child avatars?

They aren't supposed to be here, and if they are, you can bet that they aren't playing children.

2a - what do you think of bi-pedal (two legs, human-esque overall) "furry" avatars?

They have as might right to be here as I do.

2b - on a scale of 1 (being least) to 10 (being most), how often do you see one in a general area?

I'd say 7 on this one. I've seen them in clubs that i go to, in shopping areas, etc

2c - what do you think of the people in general who play as bi-pedal (two legs, human-esque overall) "furry" avatars?

Again, it doesn't matter to me what anyone decides they want to be. The ones that I have known were very nice... except that old landlord that had everyone booted from the sim to do something different with it... but hey, human avs do the same thing on occasion.

3a - what do you think of 4-legged animal avatars?

They're kinda cute

3b - on a scale of 1 (being least) to 10 (being most), how often do you see one in a general area?

Another 1 here... I think I've seen three of them in my year and a half here. A bunny and a dog and something else, I forget what now.

3c - what do you thing of people in general who play as 4-legged animal avatars?

See 1c & 2c. Live and let live.

4a - what do you think of the mass amount of porn-related items, even in some common areas?

I don't think its as bad as you think. I've never noticed all that much unless I was in an area that specialized in it.

4b - do you think those kind of vendors should be removed from places that has kids? (the mature islands that has kid-friendly names, i.e. )

I've no idea what you are talking about here.

btw, you left out Goreans, BDSMers, Tinies, Nekos, Mermaids, Demons, Angels, Vampires, and probably a few others. And what about "normal" humans that play normal humans? What do you think of that? Or... maybe they are really furries that are pretending to be normal humans?
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Juralp Grun
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06-22-2008 19:12
thanks for the input people

@everyone asking why i'm asking - why not meet me in-game once i get my avatar right, you'll see why ;)

unfortunatly, i forgot to ask one question.... really odd one tho.
shoiuld i ask it/them?
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06-22-2008 19:26
lol, well we are losing interest fast so ask away. And no I think most of us are sort of scared of ya, lol
Juralp Grun
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06-22-2008 19:29
From: Atom Burma
lol, well we are losing interest fast so ask away. And no I think most of us are sort of scared of ya, lol


lol, nah, i ain't gonna aks the other series.
don't be scared of me :( i don't know anyone in-game at all, i need friends :(
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06-22-2008 19:34
From: Juralp Grun
lol, nah, i ain't gonna aks the other series.
don't be scared of me :( i don't know anyone in-game at all, i need friends :(


It's not necesarily you personally, this topic has been beaten past the dead horse phase, a good month ago. I am glad you got your poll. I am also glad I got my 2 cents in. I tried in the past posts but it seems if you say one thing against kids, those lil buggers go nutz.
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06-22-2008 19:34
From: Juralp Grun
lol, nah, i ain't gonna aks the other series.
don't be scared of me :( i don't know anyone in-game at all, i need friends :(

If you need friends, then you would be wise not to post a series of questions that borders perilously close on the "have you stopped beating your wife" kind of answering that you offer.

In another thread, you're asking for details about SL5B.

Here, you're loading questions against child avatars and mention something that you're "planning" on doing.

Given how much child avatars have been put through the wringer, especially lately with the whole SL5B fiasco, your questions in this thread and the other one looks suspiciously like you getting ready for some sort of "crusade" that you plan to launch against child avatars during SL5B.

And buddy, that does NOT make people look at you with brotherly love in their hearts. :mad:
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06-22-2008 19:40
From: Juralp Grun
i need friends :(
Good luck with that.

If this is you trying to be friendly, what would you be like if you were TRYING to alienate people?

>.<
Juralp Grun
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06-22-2008 19:47
mind if i ask something?
please give me a quote of me ever insulting ANY group of people.
all i did was ask what people thought of them, that is not insulting anything.

i did not flame, i did not say they are bad, i did not insult what people even said about anything.
so please, don't assume i said something i never did.
i will post my character's picture in this topic later. you will see why i was asking these questions
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06-22-2008 19:51
Maybe I can save us both some time:

SL Kids are adults doing what they want in SL

Furries are adults doing what they want in SL

Keep applying that answer all the way down and add the following comment to the end:

I don't care what people do in SL as long as they are not hurting others maliciously. I have friends from all avatar wearing walks of life. I only have problems with people that judge them and get self-righteous about how much better they are because they are not freaks like X group. Give me a SL kid, furry, four legged, two legged, etc etc to hang out with any day instead of those people.

EDIT to add: That is not a slam at the OP, just my honest feelings on the matter.
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Juralp Grun
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06-22-2008 19:58
i will flat out say right now i have no problems with child, furry ,animal, or any other kind of avatars.
anyone saying i'm anti-(insert any group here) is incorrect in their assumptions.

please refrain form commenting on what you think i think of these avatars until i post my avatar pic
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