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Good Sim / Bad Sim.... Entry Portal, Traffic And No Value?

Cjay Price
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04-29-2009 11:37
......There are some places in Secondlife that are magical, and some places that defy explanation and reason. I have found such a place. It's called Avatar island.

#1. Why do I see this place in a poor light? Well let me explain a bit. They sell a product that claims to be able to put your real face on a avatar from Secondlife, But what do you really get for your 2700 linden credits which is about $12.00 UsD. You get a texture that they have digitized from a photo that you sent to them. Does this photo/texture really look like you when they are done? Well the answer is a big no when you start to consider the construction of an avatar in Secondlife. What this company does not provide is a the eyes or the rest of the body for the texture and this leaves just the skin.
What you get is the face cheeks the forehead and ears, and not really even the ears as they do not really provide you with any real 3d data that can be used to construct a true avatar shape. There are plenty of skins on Secondlife that can be had for free, or you can pay as much as you want, and these skins are full body and have a quality that far surpasses what you can get on Avatar Island. So before you go plunking down the lindens for something that you can buy else where, or if you have the talent to make your own skins for your Secondlife avatar, and the templates are free from Secondlife to do just this sort of thing, think twice before making a purchase from Avatar Island and the CyberExtruder gimmick.

Now for #2. Why have all these people been banned from Avatar island? Could it be that these people have bought the product and felt that they have not recieved what it is they have paid for and this is what happens to a Secondlife resident when they make a complaint or ask for their money back. Maybe it could be the management and sim owners who do not see the a value of a community of Secondlife residents. Remember that your giving this company real money. If you have complaints you might want to call the company directly for a full refund, although sending emails to the company usually leads to no response and they do not provide any real support for foreign visitors either.

#3. Also this is a Secondlife entry point for new players that seems to be a huge bottleneck and a way to trap people into a marketing ploy.

Hey! Linden Labs Wake Up! You got a bad entry portal with a lot of traffic and no value.


Some helpful Information....
SecondLife Resident account names of Owners of Avatar island

Captain Borgnine <--- Main contact
Korvel Noh
Fronic Beck
Trieste Janus
Trogg Garrigus
Dave Surface
Whaley Bailey
And Helper/manager Rhaorth Antonelli <--- Second contact

I will not provide Telephone numbers for these people as this might be a TOS violation
But the information is at the Cyberextruder.com website and Avatar island SIM
Just do a little digging and all contacts can be had.

Ban list for avatar island, 256 people What could that many people have done, WHY?

Obama udein
1mental1 string
11aldo11 jupiter
1015814 zarco
12231223ss Seminario
aamyha Auster
Abigail Smedley
Adam Jinx
Adonis Ditko
Air tsunenaga
America Bilasimo
andara Olivieri
Andi Dockal
Angel202 Baily
Angelo Crystal
Angelus Verne
Angelxx Juneberry
Arbiter Zeplin
AsianBkOyGang1226cakeater....
Avariel Rallier
Aviator Braveheart
Beau Orfan
Beautiful Cyberstar
Beckii Aichi
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Bigcomfy Goldshark
Blackwolf Adder
Blooded tiponi
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bot Aboma
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Burb Hoffnung
Cabbage Teardrop
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carmella Monday
cb213 ansar
ceecee core
chicho piers
chrystian quartz
Clairre Benoir
claudia74a Orsini
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Cjay Price
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04-29-2009 11:40
So IBTL!

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04-29-2009 11:43
Ibtl
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04-29-2009 11:50
Ibtl +1
Briana Dawson
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04-29-2009 11:51
Go away.

You are just trying to broaden the scope of conflict.

You have issues with Rhaorth. Take it else where Mr. "Compassion".
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04-29-2009 11:54
IBTL :cool:
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Cjay Price
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Please ignore the IBTL posers
04-29-2009 11:55
They Know nothing and contribute nothing they just spit juice that Fails. 8)
Duncan Delicioso
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04-29-2009 12:01
IBTL. And besides anything else, isn't naming names against the ToS of the forums?
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04-29-2009 12:03
From: Cjay Price
Please ignore the IBTL posers

And, apparently, the TOS..

IBTL!
Duncan Delicioso
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04-29-2009 12:07
Grabbed from OP: I will not provide Telephone numbers for these people as this might be a TOS violation But the information is at the Cyberextruder.com website and Avatar island SIM Just do a little digging and all contacts can be had.

Oh good god. If you gave out RL personal information on anyone here, you would be IP banned so quick your head would spin. I wouldn't be suprised if you aren't suspended from the forums for violating the ToS without any thought.

Edit - And in response to your #2 problem, 2700L's is not bad for a custom made skin that will make your AV look almost like the RL you. I would never personally do this because this is SL and not RL. Why look like me in 2 places? lol. The fact is, this is your opinion. The ban list is there for other reasons. Ever think that some of these people are Spampires? Griefers? People stealing textures? There are a number of reasons to ban someone from land... not because they are unhappy with a product.
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04-29-2009 12:09
I was briefly banned once from my neighbor's property because I banned/muted/ARd him first for harassing me.

Naming names just makes you look like a schmuck with an ax to grind.
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Cjay Price
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All the information that I have provided....
04-29-2009 12:09
All the information that I have provided is public and available within secondlife
All sim owner contact information is public
and all ban list information is public.

I have not broken TOS Rules I did my reading before I posted Ok 8)

What im doing here is providing a creative contructive viewpoint, nothing more nothing less.
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04-29-2009 12:10
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Amity Slade
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04-29-2009 12:10
This thread is fun not for the reasons of the original post. (Sorry- a company is allowed to sell junk as long as it doesn't lie or mislead about the junk it's selling. I was interested the first time I heard about the product, but it only took me about five minutes of reading about it before buying to discover the flaws you mentioned.)

What is fun is that I had to go see if the advertising for the product has changed, and I found the company has been awarded a patent for coverting digital images from 2D to 3D.

So it has a new patent on something I've been able to do with Poser for- what, about ten years now? That's funny.
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04-29-2009 12:12


Bon voyage, thread.
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04-29-2009 12:13
From: Cjay Price
All the information that I have provided is public and available within secondlife
All sim owner contact information is public
and all ban list information is public.

I have not broken TOS Rules I did my reading before I posted Ok 8)

What im doing here is providing a creative contructive viewpoint, nothing more nothing less.


Naming names is a big no-no in the forums.
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04-29-2009 12:14
From: Cjay Price


<snip>

Ban list for avatar island, 256 people What could that many people have done, WHY?

<snip>

Cjay Price

<snip>


What did YOU do?
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Cjay Price
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Thank you so much for the positive comment
04-29-2009 12:16
Thats the truth, and the truth will set you free Thank you.

From: Amity Slade
This thread is fun not for the reasons of the original post. (Sorry- a company is allowed to sell junk as long as it doesn't lie or mislead about the junk it's selling. I was interested the first time I heard about the product, but it only took me about five minutes of reading about it before buying to discover the flaws you mentioned.)

What is fun is that I had to go see if the advertising for the product has changed, and I found the company has been awarded a patent for coverting digital images from 2D to 3D.

So it has a new patent on something I've been able to do with Poser for- what, about ten years now? That's funny.
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04-29-2009 12:20
From: Cjay Price

What im doing here is providing a creative contructive viewpoint, nothing more nothing less.

Go away.
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Amity Slade
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04-29-2009 12:24
From: Cjay Price
Thats the truth, and the truth will set you free Thank you.


To be clear, I wasn't actually positively supporting your post.

It would be one thing to share your bad experience with the product. A post like that would probably be welcomed, no one likes to waste money on a disappointing product.

And in fact, Linden Lab should take notices, because it has at least unofficially endorsed the product. (Didn't Phillip Linden show off his photo-to-skin at an in-world speech, endorsing it as the next great technology in Second Life?)

However, you go too far by naming all the people associated with the product, and way way too far by listing everyone who has been banned from the island, and you are way way way off course to assume they were all banned because they complained about the product.

Edit it out all the latter, and you might have have a useful discussion.
Cjay Price
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Well first!
04-29-2009 12:40
Well, first I did not assume anything, I asked a question to make you think.

Second, Phillip Linden is out of the picture as we have a new CEO now.

Third, You might be right but, taken directly from the TOS...."Purpose
The purpose of the Second Life Forums is to promote discussion and education about Second Life. We believe in an honest and open free exchange of ideas, and in always maintaining a respect for the opinions and positions of other people. "
Moderation Policy
Linden Lab provides these forums in the belief that promoting discourse and the sharing of ideas leads to a stronger, better informed community. We allow full freedom of expression
http://secondlife.com/corporate/cs.php

So as it seems, I'm good 8)

From: Amity Slade
To be clear, I wasn't actually positively supporting your post.

It would be one thing to share your bad experience with the product. A post like that would probably be welcomed, no one likes to waste money on a disappointing product.

And in fact, Linden Lab should take notices, because it has at least unofficially endorsed the product. (Didn't Phillip Linden show off his photo-to-skin at an in-world speech, endorsing it as the next great technology in Second Life?)

However, you go too far by naming all the people associated with the product, and way way too far by listing everyone who has been banned from the island, and you are way way way off course to assume they were all banned because they complained about the product.

Edit it out all the latter, and you might have have a useful discussion.
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04-29-2009 12:50
From: Cjay Price

So as it seems, I'm good 8)


No...You are not.

Unlike most in this thread, I have seen the post you made to Rhaorth in the other thread.

You are nothing but a trouble maker trying to start a fire.

Go away boy who cries wolf.
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Cjay Price
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Briana Please.....
04-29-2009 13:20
I call it like I see it...
And yes my other post was directed at Rhaorth, but this post is not.
So please if your going to comment make it in responce to the subject and not your
fanboy/Girl fever for Rhaorth.


From: Briana Dawson
No...You are not.

Unlike most in this thread, I have seen the post you made to Rhaorth in the other thread.

You are nothing but a trouble maker trying to start a fire.

Go away boy who cries wolf.
Sindy Tsure
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04-29-2009 13:24
From: Cjay Price
Second, Phillip Linden is out of the picture as we have a new CEO now.

You're right!! Chairman of the Board is such a wimpy title..
Briana Dawson
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04-29-2009 13:37
From: Cjay Price
I call it like I see it...
And yes my other post was directed at Rhaorth, but this post is not.
So please if your going to comment make it in responce to the subject and not your
fanboy/Girl fever for Rhaorth.


Ya, i got the hots for her. :rolleyes:

Really...I just cannot stand know nothing losers coming to the forum and starting crap with regulars based on some B.S. inworld.

You are a trouble maker. Your post to Rhaorth shows it, and your OP in this thread confirms it.
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