COMMENT IN THE BLOGS If you have had an Openspace region DOES ANYONE FEEL MY PAIN?

actually these forums are not for creating threads to bitch about LL or SL even though it seems to be the primary use

I think the "hostility" you feel it's because we already bored to explain the same thing 10 times, explain the same thing to LL (that is supposed to know better than us these matters...), and explain it again when someone comes back here to say (again): "hey when you buy something from a shop..." and bla bla bla, because they didn't read the thread at all.

Did you figured that the proposed solution doesn't only impact on us (i have to move the content from a sim to another) but it also damage their business, probably MORE than it would damage me! Your comments are based upon what...? You admitt is has no sense, but you justify it because they doesn't had a better idea? So if i have the power to delete your account from Second Life, i'll do it.. and you cannot comment my crazyness, and if you do, someone will reply: "eh, you cannot comment.. im sorry you accepted the crazyness, so stop moaning and go playing another game", you are like that "someone": you know it's bad, you admitt it's bad, but you won't read comments about it.

False, i've talked a Concierge, i've issued my official complains to LL, and *THEN* i've shared my thought on this forum, because the purpose of this forum is to talk with others (and yes LL IS READING THIS FORUM) and collect comments. We're not under the control of the china government, if something BAD is happening, we need to talk about it. Do you like threads about blinking shoes and flexy hairs? Go there then... im thinking about my business.

Beside your 2500 posts i believe you are not paying enough attention to what's happening here and about the recent blog posts about this forum. Do you want a list a forum threads in the past 6 months that have played the main role of the most important TOS changement recently? I believe you already know... so don't try to tell us what's the use of this forum: it's (another) way to communicate our feel to the other residents and directly to LL. This not just (and only) a "residents helps other residents" space.

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actually these forums are not for creating threads to bitch about LL or SL even though it seems to be the primary use

this forum is here so residents can help other residents, other forums for technical help, texture related help, buildings, advertising events, or products, etc

I do not recall seeing a forum that is specifically set up so that we can bitch and moan about LL
do you honestly think that they come here to read what we have to say, or that they even care?
the only time anyone peeks in here, is if someone tells them about a specific thread and IF that thread interests them enough to post or if it would be a benefit to the company to have a linden input anything into the thread
I very highly doubt that they made these forums to "allow us to have threads so we can bitch about things that are being handled by them"

yep it is just your opinion... just as mine is my opinion, yet you seem to get pretty darn upset when someone posts an opinion that doesn't match up with your own.

posting numbers are deceiving... majority of mine is helping others, answering questions, and sometimes debating things, I also post in some other forums within this msg board.

do not think because I have a lot of post that I think or agree that the forums are here so we can bitch and moan about LL

you really want them to know how you feel, compose a well thought out professional letter and send it to them If I were in the position that you seem to be in (having the sims wanting to exchange them but not agreeing with the policy of how to do so) I would send them a well thought out letter with sound reasoning as to why I would wish to proceed in a different manner... might want to try that.

can't hurt right? all they can do is so nope, got to do it our way... have you tried that yet?
if so, care to share the letter with us?

Actually we can go on and on and blah blah our way into who’s right or wrong here and who has the better solution, and on the contrary they do read the posting of threads, But i guess you spend your time on the threads rather than the blogs. As some of them states we read your feedback on the threads and came up with a solution. Yes It was posted on one of their blogs a while ago and if i had a copy of it I would posted right here.

Please don't get offended of things I say, I am expressing my feelings about thier solution with thier new island policy, its nothing personal about you, but personal about my business here.

and I have stated I do understand, just because I do not agree with those who are upset doesn't mean I do not understand

so yes if they deleted me I would just move on (of course I would want to know why LOL)

then share with us the outcome of your talk with concierge and with your official complains [SIC] to LL let us know what you said and what they said

the same could be said about your attitude, you seem to be only interested in the whole fiasco of how to get your money back (bottom line YES it is about the money, if it were not about the money, you would not care about how the procedure to get your refund worked)

if you really think LL sends lindens here to comb through these forums, well then continue to live in your dream world...

I clicked yes to the TOS, which basically states I agree to whatever they throw at me, until I no longer agree, and at that time I will not be welcomed (allowed) to be here anymore.

[SIC] means I was spelling the word the same way you did, even though I knew it was misspelled

Ok, because i were thinking that we were living on different universe.



That would be a reason, but unfortunately it's not true, you are not paying for a "value" product, you are paying exact what you get: 1/4 of prims for 1/4 of price (and 1/4 of CPU/Core renting). So you are paying EXACTLY what you are entitled to pay, because you will use EXACTLY 1/4 of the resources, in fact the monthly fees are 1/4 also.. well not true, we are giving em 5USD more per month (normal sims costs 295 not 300).

I'm not that kind of person that moan about stupidity, but when someone try to trick me i can't shutup.

I would suggest, if I werent an optimist (Im not) that they are offering this slightly better deal to full sim buyers because...

1. over the last month they have sold mostly openarea sims, thats been there push, 1000's of them. they dont want to discount the sales they just made.

2. The deal for full sim buyers doesnt include any monetary compensation at all, just more product. which will, after a period, generate more tier fees. The only offer they could make to openarea buyers would actually cost money, not going to happen.

I bought 5 Openspaces 3 weeks ago. Am I annoyed that I bought them right after they had just announced the then-new price of $400 USD apiece (as opposed to 4 at a time), only to have them change the price a few weeks too late for me? Sure- I could have bought 8 Openspaces with that money instead of just 5.

So I'm annoyed, but I'm not indignant. Things happen. Now I'm just impatiently waiting for that new Land Store to open up!

Wildfire You do not have to loose the difference. You too can cancel those 5 new sims for a full refund and order 8 new when the new land store opens for the same price.

That is not the OP question though. Our issue is with way we have to get that refund.

I cant speak for others, but I would have to remove tenants, refund them and play damage control. Just to turn around and reorder once the new land store opens.

We all spent close to, or more than, the cost of full sim when buying a few openspaces, yet the refund is not applicable.

Thanks Breeze for the discussion.
these are my last thoughts on the subject
moving on
Alisha

Wildfire You do not have to loose the difference. You too can cancel those 5 new sims for a full refund and order 8 new when the new land store opens for the same price.

That is not the OP question though. Our issue is with way we have to get that refund.

I cant speak for others, but I would have to remove tenants, refund them and play damage control. Just to turn around and reorder once the new land store opens.

We all spent close to, or more than, the cost of full sim when buying a few openspaces, yet the refund is not applicable.

Thanks Breeze for the discussion.
these are my last thoughts on the subject
moving on
Alisha

My understanding is that if we ordered our openspace sims more than a week ago we get no refund for the difference. I ordered mine 3 weeks ago as well, the way the blog makes it sound is that I am pretty well screwed. I haven't even hit my first tier either.

when did you take delivery? i took delivery like two weeks ago, but i initiated the process over a month ago. only having my island for two weeks and not even having hit my first tier day i hope im not the one stuck with the bag.

Rhaorth Antonelli maybe a known troll forum abuser, as far as I read this thread he isn't interested in posting anything with serious considerations for other residents' posts. (He just writes as he feels.)

I suggest that we shouldn't reply to his comment, if you keep doing this, this thread will be nothing but a mud ground for trollers to play.

Lets stick to the topic. This thread is NOT about discussing the use of this forum or any other things.

(I will not post any further reply to Rhaorth's posts in this thread.)

has anyone suggested that to them? free tier in lieu of canceling and reordering a sim?

I think them offering any kind of discount is a step above what they need to do

if you go to a store and buy something and find out the next week it is on sale do you expect to get a refund of the sale price difference?
and not all stores put out flyers either... or what about you buy a car or a house and then the market falls...