option 3:
push whiney content creators off the grid and add mesh import for the thieves to exploit.
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Batman Abbot
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10-27-2009 12:05
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Meade Paravane
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10-27-2009 12:17
/me wonders about putting a throttle on the amount of stuff NPIOF newbies can transfer. Similar to the way that somebody using LindeX (TM R CC etc) can only gradually buy so many L$..
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Lindal Kidd
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10-27-2009 12:25
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Peace Toxx
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10-27-2009 12:43
This is why I've said it before and I'll say it again. Who are you? Does Linden Lab have your identity on file in their office? They should. The days when it's OK to have anonymous accounts in SL are over. Linden Lab needs to grow a spine, ditch that Aristotle piece of crap, and start keeping their own records on their users. Make a decision that all avatars must identify their real life selves to Linden Lab, with absolutely no exceptions whatsoever. All unidentified avatars shall immediately have their ability to transfer inventory to other avatars, even so much as a texture, permanently revoked. Give them a suitable grace period, 30 days, 60 days, whatever, in which to provide their real identity to Linden Lab. Those who opt not to do so will be permanently deleted from the grid with extreme prejudice, no appeals accepted. . Overreaction much, Mr. Blue Mars guy? |
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10-27-2009 12:46
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Katheryne Helendale
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10-27-2009 12:51
This is why I've said it before and I'll say it again. Who are you? Does Linden Lab have your identity on file in their office? They should. The days when it's OK to have anonymous accounts in SL are over. Linden Lab needs to grow a spine, ditch that Aristotle piece of crap, and start keeping their own records on their users. Make a decision that all avatars must identify their real life selves to Linden Lab, with absolutely no exceptions whatsoever. All unidentified avatars shall immediately have their ability to transfer inventory to other avatars, even so much as a texture, permanently revoked. Give them a suitable grace period, 30 days, 60 days, whatever, in which to provide their real identity to Linden Lab. Those who opt not to do so will be permanently deleted from the grid with extreme prejudice, no appeals accepted. Drastic step but one that is necessary to start getting a handle on this stuff. I have a basic problem with this idea. The day I am forced to cough up a copy of my birth certificate, driver's license, or identification card in order to continue access to SL is the day I pack up my bags and move on to some place less Orwellian. *NO* business has any business knowing *that* much about me. I have no problem using a form of identification that ties me to that identification, such as a credit card with a valid billing address; but I *refuse* to hand over my personal information like that. _____________________
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Peace Toxx
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10-27-2009 12:52
^ That. ^
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Katheryne Helendale
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10-27-2009 13:01
So once again, Linden Lab needs to know full real life identity of every single avatar on this grid, and keep it permanently on file, no matter what objections any of their customers may raise. If you live in a place where providing such information to Linden Lab is illegal, then it's time to tell you thanks for coming, and GOODBYE. Not unless you are a registered sex offender. I am not required to submit my personal identification to the authorities to maintain access to my place of residence in real life; and I will be *damned* if I will do so for a virtual world. I empathize strongly with my fellow content creators; but I am not willing to sacrifice my freedoms for a little temporary security. As a wise man once said, anyone who willingly does so deserves neither. _____________________
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RockAndRoll Michigan
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10-27-2009 13:08
Overreaction much, Mr. Blue Mars guy? Assume much? I have no connection with Blue Mars, have never used it, and don't even give a rat's patootie about it. I care about Second Life and its continued viability as a platform for content creation and content sales. I'm sorry if you don't see the fact that the system is in jeopardy from people who love to make life easier for the thieves. Perhaps I should be accusing you of being a thief the same way as you are accusing me of pushing some other corporation's agenda and trying to favor said corporation over Linden Lab. |
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Katheryne Helendale
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10-27-2009 13:09
Person downloads Emerald, uses their built-in radar to stalk their chosen victim, and teleports repeatedly to this person's location. I see this sort of thing being posted a lot as an argument against Emerald and its features, enough so that I feel this myth really needs to be dispelled... The radar built into the Emerald client does NOT allow you to go around stalking people nilly-willy and teleporting to their location. This feature ONLY works if you and your intended target are already on the same sim! There is NO WAY for anyone using the Emerald viewer to locate someone NOT on the same sim if that person has not given you permission to do so. _____________________
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RockAndRoll Michigan
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10-27-2009 13:10
If you move to a new city in RL, are you required to register with the authorities? Are you required to submit fingerprint and DNA samples when you relocate? You know, just in case some business is broken into, the cops would have no problem identifying the burglar because they have records on *everybody*? Not unless you are a registered sex offender. I am not required to submit my personal identification to the authorities to maintain access to my place of residence in real life; and I will be *damned* if I will do so for a virtual world. I empathize strongly with my fellow content creators; but I am not willing to sacrifice my freedoms for a little temporary security. As a wise man once said, anyone who willingly does so deserves neither. When you break into a business you do leave your identity behind. When you commit a crime in Second Life? You don't. So we need another solution. Mine might not be perfect, but do you have anything useful to offer? |
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Brenda Connolly
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10-27-2009 13:12
I have a basic problem with this idea. The day I am forced to cough up a copy of my birth certificate, driver's license, or identification card in order to continue access to SL is the day I pack up my bags and move on to some place less Orwellian. *NO* business has any business knowing *that* much about me. I have no problem using a form of identification that ties me to that identification, such as a credit card with a valid billing address; but I *refuse* to hand over my personal information like that. Unfortunately, your bank and credit card company/cable company/utility company, etc probably has done that already for you. _____________________
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RockAndRoll Michigan
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10-27-2009 13:12
I see this sort of thing being posted a lot as an argument against Emerald and its features, enough so that I feel this myth really needs to be dispelled... The radar built into the Emerald client does NOT allow you to go around stalking people nilly-willy and teleporting to their location. This feature ONLY works if you and your intended target are already on the same sim! There is NO WAY for anyone using the Emerald viewer to locate someone NOT on the same sim if that person has not given you permission to do so. Then perhaps you would care to explain to me the screenshots that have been sent to me by an Emerald user, showing that his radar has picked up people, total strangers I might add, within the 4096 meter scan range who were not on the same sim that he was, complete with the button available to teleport to their location? |
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Peace Toxx
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10-27-2009 13:12
Technology.
The problem is that virtual theft is not considered a crime in most parts of the world. Ok then who's the Blue Mars guy...Lol. (You still overreacted.) |
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RockAndRoll Michigan
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10-27-2009 13:13
Unfortunately, your bank and credit card company/cable company/utility company, etc probably has done that already for you. QED. Unless she doesn't have any accounts with any of the above. |
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RockAndRoll Michigan
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10-27-2009 13:14
Technology. The problem is that virtual theft is not considered a crime in most parts of the world. Ok then who's the Blue Mars guy...Lol. (You still overreacted.) OK, so you say I overreacted. Let's see your actually effective solution to the issue of crime in Second Life. Beyond just saying that it's not a crime because other countries say it isn't. |
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Brenda Connolly
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10-27-2009 13:16
Technology. The problem is that virtual theft is not considered a crime in most parts of the world. Ok then who's the Blue Mars guy...Lol. (You still overreacted.) I blame you. I think you are more than just a run of the mill forum trolling alt.......you are more likely a Blue Mars 5th Columnist...sent here to divdie and conquer...to whip up hatred amongst the 4 people who don't already hate LL and cause a mass exodus to Blue Mars........Well, forget it pal...we ain't reading that column! *shakes fist _____________________
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Jesse Barnett
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10-27-2009 13:16
If you move to a new city in RL, are you required to register with the authorities? Are you required to submit fingerprint and DNA samples when you relocate? _____________________
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Phil Deakins
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10-27-2009 13:16
There is NO WAY for anyone using the Emerald viewer to locate someone NOT on the same sim if that person has not given you permission to do so. _____________________
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Brenda Connolly
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10-27-2009 13:16
OK, so you say I overreacted. Let's see your actually effective solution to the issue of crime in Second Life. Everybody go to Blue Mars. _____________________
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Peace Toxx
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10-27-2009 13:17
I blame you. I think you are more than just a run of the mill forum trolling alt.......you are more likely a Blue Mars 5th Columnist...sent here to divdie and conquer...to whip up hatred amongst the 4 people who don't already hate LL and cause a mass exodus to Blue Mars........Well, forget it pal...we ain't reading that column! *shakes fist BUSTED. Especially the Communist part. Oops you said Columnist. Hey I came here in peace. It threw me off when someone told me to shut up. I don't do shut up well. |
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Peace Toxx
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10-27-2009 13:18
OK, so you say I overreacted. Let's see your actually effective solution to the issue of crime in Second Life. Beyond just saying that it's not a crime because other countries say it isn't. I already answered that. I never said it is not a crime. I said in some parts of the world it is not. You are still overreacting. |
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Jesse Barnett
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10-27-2009 13:20
I see this sort of thing being posted a lot as an argument against Emerald and its features, enough so that I feel this myth really needs to be dispelled... The radar built into the Emerald client does NOT allow you to go around stalking people nilly-willy and teleporting to their location. This feature ONLY works if you and your intended target are already on the same sim! There is NO WAY for anyone using the Emerald viewer to locate someone NOT on the same sim if that person has not given you permission to do so. *cough* *cough* I call BS on this on. LOL Neither the radar app nor using mouse over on the minimap to get the names is limited to the simulator you are in. I have used both many times. Not that I want these removed. _____________________
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RockAndRoll Michigan
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10-27-2009 13:25
I already answered that. I never said it is not a crime. I said in some parts of the world it is not. You are still overreacting. OK, so let's see your effective solution to the problem. Still waiting on that. At least I offered one, I haven't seen anything of the sort from you, you're too focused on accusing people of being "Mr. Blue Mars guy" and what not. Let's see you outline something that will actually work to deal with the issues of content theft, cyberstalking, harassment, griefing, and other issues that are in fact plaguing the grid here in Second Life itself, without telling people to just give up and go to some other system. I intend to stay right here, so let's put an end to this crap so that we can actually enjoy what the system was intended to be in the first place, shall we? |
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Brenda Connolly
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10-27-2009 13:26
BUSTED. Especially the Communist part. Oops you said Columnist. Hey I came here in peace. It threw me off when someone told me to shut up. I don't do shut up well. I was saving the Communist accusation for a later time. I was going to accuse you of being Liberal Democrat first. _____________________
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