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Cristalle Karami
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11-13-2007 19:49
From: Swan Legend
i disagree completely.

Your choice. But I don't fear for the University of Submission, or the D/s community at all, because this time, I believe they will use some common sense to discern who intends to play the role of a child versus mere submission to someone else.
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Dana Hickman
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11-13-2007 19:50
From: Swan Legend
if you are short small chested and submissive and wear your hair in piggytails then you are violating ToS?

You missed the "engaging in sex or sexual activities" part... The above is fine as long as you're not crossing the line into sex stuff.
Danielle Harrop
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11-13-2007 19:51
besides...slavery on sl is voluntary...


No one is forced to be one....

You just take off the collar and log out if you don't wanna play along.

*shrug*

and I am not defending the "G"s...personally, the lifestyle aint for me...but just noticed a point needed to be made...
Susie Boffin
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11-13-2007 19:57
From: Danielle Harrop
besides...slavery on sl is voluntary...


No one is forced to be one....

You just take off the collar and log out if you don't wanna play along.

*shrug*

and I am not defending the "G"s...personally, the lifestyle aint for me...but just noticed a point needed to be made...


Everything in SL is voluntary last I heard including sexual ageplay. That has nothing to do with anything. :)
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Colette Meiji
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11-13-2007 19:59
From: Dana Hickman
You missed the "engaging in sex or sexual activities" part... The above is fine as long as you're not crossing the line into sex stuff.


WHOA

You are allowed to be short, small chested, wear pigtails and provide sexual services to a 50 long line of men on Mature Land.

You just aren't allowed to do it with a kid avatar.


Small chested+short+pig tails DOES NOT EQUAL child avie.
Bradley Bracken
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11-13-2007 20:00
From: Berith Lytton
Honestly, does anyone think this will really be the gloom and doom end of SL? There's nothing whatsoever to indicate that at all.


It's the "sky is falling" subject of the week. Much ado about nothing as always.

Nothing new here, nothing to see. Move along folks.
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Susie Boffin
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11-13-2007 20:02
From: Colette Meiji
WHOA

You are allowed to be short, small chested, wear pigtails and provide sexual services to a 50 long line of men on Mature Land.

You just aren't allowed to do it with a kid avatar.


Small chested+short+pig tails DOES NOT EQUAL child avie.


*Stuffs bra and puts on newbie 9 inch bling heels*
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Colette Meiji
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11-13-2007 20:04
From: Bradley Bracken
It's the "sky is falling" subject of the week. Much ado about nothing as always.

Nothing new here, nothing to see. Move along folks.


Theres nothing new, you are right.

Just a bit of disgust with the Lindens and their continued, sloppy, and unprofessional approach to the Community Standards.

If they want something that is "Obscene" to be against the standards, they should have another Line Item to cover it.

Here we can design one based on Dan L's previous post

5b. Obscene Content: Some content is simply too repugnant for News agencies to give us a pass. Such content is never allowed in Second Life, even on Mature parcels.
Danielle Harrop
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11-13-2007 20:05
Why stuff the bra? Just go into appearance and use that slider bar :)


I love SL :)
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ooo a clarification...
11-13-2007 20:06
and yet their crappy wording is going to cause a whole new wave of paranoid accusations based on 'proximity' and 'catering' and even 'sex bed' (I mean seriously a bed is just a damn bed if you aren't lying on it AND using seuxal animations) and really, is there a sign that pops up for me to know when I'm near a SCRIPT that's sexual in nature, come on now, honestly? ::eyeroll::

::crossposted because noones reading the other thread::
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Kenbro Utu
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11-13-2007 20:12
From: Berith Lytton
Sorry kiddo, if LL worked like that then they'd have banned a whole buncha stuff a long time ago.

The whole "there's a chance they may possibly sometime in the future do something illegal" argument has been shot down so many times. Again, your slippery slope fails. The sky is not falling, that was just an acorn that hit you in the head.


A double ditto on this. LL has been extremely tolerant in my opinion and have only vaguely set guidelines for the protection of the company when they have been forced to by events that occurr outside of SL. Put this in line with the other 20 SL killers waiting in the wings to bring down our metaverse...
Colette Meiji
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11-13-2007 20:13
The practical issue in the Sexual Age Play ban is there is a portion of the Community that is simply too stupid to have the power to get other residents investigated over who they cyber and what avatar they wear when doing it.
Swan Legend
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11-13-2007 20:14
From: Dana Hickman
You missed the "engaging in sex or sexual activities" part... The above is fine as long as you're not crossing the line into sex stuff.



i didnt miss anything. There is nothing wrong with adult sexuality even when the adults involved are infact adult babies btw which is a form of bdsm. i heard 80 percent of the sl kids are in fact adult babies who engage in sexual ageplay of some type, the ones who arent obviously have their own reasons as issues for not expressing their sexuality. But do adults cut off their gentials when they log in? no . . and that includes sl kids. if you say otherwise you are lying because everyone on adult grid is supposed to be over 18 in rl. This entire thing is out of control and insane.
Colette Meiji
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11-13-2007 20:18
From: Swan Legend
i didnt miss anything. There is nothing wrong with adult sexuality even when the adults involved are infact adult babies btw which is a form of bdsm. i heard 80 percent of the sl kids are in fact adult babies who engage in sexual ageplay of some type, the ones who arent obviously have their own reasons as issues for not expressing their sexuality. But do adults cut off their gentials when they log in? no . . and that includes sl kids. if you say otherwise you are lying because everyone on adult grid is supposed to be over 18 in rl. This entire thing is out of control and insane.


Well that debate is over and done with. LL has determined they cant allow Avatars that portray children allowed to be involved in sexual depictions.

They aren't going to change their mind on that.
Swan Legend
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11-13-2007 20:20
From: Colette Meiji
Well that debate is over and done with. LL has determined they cant allow Avatars that portray children allowed to be involved in sexual depictions.

They aren't going to change their mind on that.



i dont care. im not gonna be bullied and neither are my friends.

Its descimination against adult babies and they wont get away with it
Cristalle Karami
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11-13-2007 20:22
From: Colette Meiji
Well that debate is over and done with. LL has determined they cant allow Avatars that portray children allowed to be involved in sexual depictions.

They aren't going to change their mind on that.

I think a clearly adult av that decides to put on a diaper, bib and pacifier would be tolerated. I mean, imagine Trout dressing up in a diaper and bib for kicks. *wink* Hi Trout! Thanks for the rating :)

It looks nothing like a real child, just like what it is - someone's kink. It would toe/cross the line if it was a more diminutive avatar with excessively youthful features.
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Colette Meiji
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11-13-2007 20:22
From: Swan Legend
i dont care. im not gonna be bullied and neither are my friends.

Its descimination against adult babies and they wont get away with it


Well,

good luck with that.
Chris Norse
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11-13-2007 20:22
From: Swan Legend
i dont care. im not gonna be bullied and neither are my friends.

Its descimination against adult babies and they wont get away with it





LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

It is their yard, they can do what they want. If you don't like it, you don't have to play here.
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Colette Meiji
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11-13-2007 20:24
From: Cristalle Karami
I think a clearly adult av that decides to put on a diaper, bib and pacifier would be tolerated. I mean, imagine Trout dressing up in a diaper and bib for kicks. *wink* Hi Trout! Thanks for the rating :)

It looks nothing like a real child, just like what it is - someone's kink. It would toe/cross the line if it was a more diminutive avatar with excessively youthful features.


Well yes I don't see where it violates the ban either.

However LL has in its infinite wisdom given the power to other residents to get you investigated for who and how you have cyber sex ...

And I am sure there are plenty of Residents who feel that it violates the policy.
Susie Boffin
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11-13-2007 20:24
What are adult babies?
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Tiberious Neruda
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11-13-2007 20:26
Oh, trust me... when something comparable comes, I -will- be jumping ship... instantly.
Colette Meiji
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11-13-2007 20:26
From: Susie Boffin
What are adult babies?


That would be obvious adults who wear diapers and silly play act to be babies and have a (often large breasted, tight bloused) Mommy take care of them.
Swan Legend
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11-13-2007 20:27
From: Tiberious Neruda
Oh, trust me... when something comparable comes, I -will- be jumping ship... instantly.



me too who wants to be here with people acting so intolerant.
Susie Boffin
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11-13-2007 20:30
From: Colette Meiji
That would be obvious adults who wear diapers and silly play act to be babies and have a (often large breasted, tight bloused) Mommy take care of them.


Then they are preverts and need to be banned immediately! Just say no to preverts!

Did I ever tell you about my particular perversion where I .......hehe better not mention it or I will ne banned.
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Kathalla Paine
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Well, there goes my whole character
11-13-2007 20:31
To quote from the Community Standards document, "... or anything else broadly offensive must be contained within private land in areas rated Mature (M)." I'd interpreted that as meaning that potentially offensive activities were permitted in private. This policy 'clarification,' though, seems to reverse that in the case of avatars' in-character age.

I have (as an alternate account) a reasonably faithfully-portrayed character from a novel (which I wrote), coming from a medieval society where the standards were vastly different. It appears, however, that this character is now illegal, because they're fewer than eighteen years old (though of marriageable age back 'home') and the portrayal is accurate to the point of, being a peasant and not a wealthy one at that, they wear a knee-length sackcloth dress and no underwear. Even if I don't commit the crime of standing too close to a dirty picture, that alone would constitute sexual ageplay under the current policy, even in private land or whole sims that are restricted in their entry.

All I wanted to be was accurate; now I guess I'm a criminal awaiting account deletion the first time someone disagrees with me and seizes upon the excuse to abuse-report.
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