People Stealing Money?

Yes, those pesky rentors!

Er, yes. ("Yes" here is used in its ancient Sumerian sense of "no, don't be ridiculous".)

Almost any personal item is and should be sold as copy/no-trans, and even the subset of items where it makes a difference whether it is copy or not (some furniture and plants, some prefabs) often has copy versions available; see Straylight for instance.

I would have muted her too after all the names she called him..

and oh yes, if that's how you feel about your rentors, then you need to get out of the real estate business. For 30k or more, that land better wipe my a** for me...it wasn't even worth that much...

The thing is why do we have to keep constantly be reminded there aren't any mods on these forums? There are a few indiviuals here who tell us that every single chance they can and for what? Do we really need to be looked after? Isn't this the forums for adults?

I guess some people need to have their hands held or have someone watching they don't stumble along the way.

If anything all they do is remind everyone no one is watching the store so it's free to steal candy. And these are the same ones who according to them don't like to see certain things going on in here yet they encourage it by constantly reminding everyone no one is watching.

I agree that there's not that much point in complaining about no moderators reading the forums on, er, the forums, but there are good reasons to have moderators, and as soon as a proper troll or spammer or significant internet feud appears here these will become very obvious. SL _is_ actually better than many places when it comes to that sort of thing, but it certainly isn't immune.

LOL thank you for that, I needed a smile. I just don't really get it...I came here to ask for advice on how to deal with a situation and got bombarded by someone who just wanted to argue. I'd personally rather talk about copy/mod

Oh, my god! Names have been mentioned, what a catastrophe. Someone alert the masses!

BTW, You have something brown on your nose, go wipe it off.

The fact is they have been using the land for close to a week. while griefing and harrassing the landlord.

And the land building permission was never being removed till today till the rent money in full gotten refunded. People from different party apart from the rentor's side went there and tested the land permission to confirm it to be working fine and perfectly and the land was still being set to the rentor's group( the testers' were testing the land setting permission wearign the rentor group's group tag). And the landlord was Not in their group. So, no way that the landlord could have taken out the land from the group set and re-set the land to it again.

And if the rentor was wanting to work with the land owner and was Intending to use the land as he was saying so before renting, really,

Why does he have to Mute the landlord while keep coming back to the rented land and stay there for long time , when the landlord keeps sending Him the IM's trying to make things work.


To me, this whole thing doesn't make any sense.

Them claimign the land permission not to be working while the land is set and deeded to their land group.

Them claiming landowner got the rules changed once they entered into the rent deal while chat logs clearly shows otherwise.


and,
The rentor muting the landlord as soon as he began with the renting while the landlord keeps flying to Him IMing trying to talk things through.(this shows in the chat logs saved as well)


This entire situation looks more like they got into the rent dealing with this landowner with an Intent or plan to bring about some damage to their business as they are in the Same business of the real estating in SL, both parties. Or maybe they are just the lovers of the nasty dramas to thrive onto the dramas created and written by them in virtual world, I would guess, to bring about this whole funny and nasty episode with scams and tweaks and lies here and there.


Well, Silly drama lovers, I would love to advise you to Only include the Willing and Agreed parties into your RP dramas. There are the ones who come to SL for the fun and pleasantry, away from the RL dramas here as well.

And we have you to remind us about what you think we should and should not post too. Same exact thing.

You're right, who needs moderation? Threads like this with two people airing their grievance in public is fun for all to enjoy right?

It figures. Here, for the most part unless you're in their little clique all you'll get are the usual phony replies with the usual "I'm sorry to hear this happened to you but you had it coming" type replies. This from the same usual suspects. It doesn't mean a thing so ignore it.

Some people do come in and argue needless points, but a lot of people are helpful. If you just focus on the useless posts then you miss those that have offered good helpful information.


I will say that issues like this should only be posted by the people directly involved, renter/landlord. Otherwise, the rest is he said that she said/she said that he said...and too confusing for people uninvolved.

I agree that it's rubbish Beezle, but who said it? Certainly not me. This is what I wrote - you might like to check it

"Good stuff isn't usually copyable, and people don't expect it to be."

and

"Generally speaking, the good stuff isn't copyable and nobody expects it to be."

No copy is used to prevent people from creating more copies of an item instead of buying more copies - furniture is a good example. With some items, such as clothing, copy permission doesn't matter as long as they are also no transfer, but it does matter if they are transferable. You see, creators generally like to sell their creations, and giving everyone who buys them permission to pass copies to anyone they like, and even to sell them in comeptition, isn't the usual way of doing things with good and quality items.

Now, you can change my words in any way you like, but I do remember what I write, and you can't get away with it, because I am here to correct it. Amazingly, two people in this thread have attributes things I didn't say to me. Doesn't anyone read properly any more? Or do people just like to argue for the sake of it?

I suggest you learn to read, Annabelle. You'll find it helps a lot, and it's so much better for discussion. See above.

You seem to enjoy it if not you wouldn't be posting in response. Same with the no naming names routine. They trip over themselves to rush in to remind not to post names. Do you really think anyone really cares? I mean really honestly cares? Or that it will make a difference in the way someone will be perceived from there after? Don't kid yourself.

And yes, you're one of the ones I mentioned before. You, like a few others are always reminding us about no mods in here. Why? What's the point to constantly, always repeating the same thing over and over again? Maybe you think people here easily forget? I doubt it since if you're not harping on it one of the others is.

Everyday the same thing.

Lol -it's rather ironic that neither the Landlord nor the actual agrieved Renter have actually posted on this thread. It makes you wonder why this thread was ever started if it wasn't the OP being ripped off or abused, although she did mislead everyone to begin with. Bad girl!

yawn...................

My poor ignore list, she is filling up.

that is a good point..lol but comon now, it was the basic principal of the issue that I was inquiring about. I did get some good answers right before the friend of the owner came on and fought with me...

wouldn't it have sounded kinda stupid if I had said "my friend got ripped off, I think" i wouldn't have gotten any answers for him. i was in the process of trying to help him get his money back because I'm a good friend. I didn't post this topic in order to slander anyone, or to gossip...I only wanted people's opinions on what I should do (or he for that matter) so it matters not that I did not tell the story in full detail, because i was trying to avoid a topid about the details at hand...didn't do much good, and actually backfired, so yes, you are right, my bad...lol

I'll remember next time to copy and paste the entire conversation between he and I, and she and I, so that all of you who are unhappy you didn't get a CNN version of the story can wallow in your own little nests of happiness. But I would like to thank any and all of you who took the question for what it was meant to be and answered it sincerely.

I suggest you re-read what I wrote - and that you quoted. You don't find anything to disagree with me about there

No need for yawns. Just learn to read - it helps a lot

Penny.

First you post this:-

And later, you post that it wasn't you who was building at all. Do *your* custom houses sell for that?

First you post about someone stealing the money (I don't mind if it was yours or your partners), and then you admit that the money was refunded shortly after starting this thread BUT you didn't post about that, before you were forced to.

Tell me something, would you believe everything that that person writes, if it wasn't you who wrote it?

Put me on ignore, Cranky Pants.

But you know what? You are right. It's pointless to keep belaboring the "Where is the Moderator/We need a moderator" point. It's obvious mentioning it isn't going to do a damn thing. The playground is all yours.

Phil: "Good stuff isn't usually copyable"
Lots of people: "No, good stuff quite often _is_ copyable"

A confusing and difficult case, I admit.

Phil: "No, I said 'Good stuff isn't usually copyable.'"

You forgot to add the loop into that.

So thats how the ignore list works

yes, my custom houses to sell for that because he and I build together, so they are OUR custom houses. And anyway, who freakin cares, you're just looking to carry out the argument..unfortunately, I hate it so bad when ppl start arguments for no reason. I asked a question, oh, and let me just beg your forgiveness for not including all the unnessesary details that had nothing to do with what I was asking about. Get a life, really...well I guess I need to get one too cuz I'm still here arguing back. Seriously tho, why does it matter that I said I built them? he needed advice and it doesn't matter who did it or who did whatever, the question would still have been the same, and the answers I got and what I learned were relayed back to him. That's all that matters. Quit just trying to argue for the sake of arguing and read the whole thread before you make accusations. I'll admit when I'm wrong, and I did, as you can clearly see above if you jsut hit that little utton that says "first page" and go from there

Maybe for you, but for anyone who reads the rest, it isn't. Try it sometime