13 year old exotic dancer

I'm not condoning it. I'm a bit more concerned that, should this be the truth, and I kinda doubt it, there's a mother out there whose first reaction to hearing this sort of thing is not to call the other mother in question, not to talk to the teen, not to talk to her own daughters, not to talk to child welfare, not even to seek the advise of her own close friends and family, but to run to a freakin message board. I mean COME ON!

I mean this isn't the same as "there's a 13-year-old on the main grid". That's a part of it, for sure. But a very small part. Upon hearing a child tell me something like this, my first thought wouldn't be "OMG I have to tell Linden Labs about this so they can get her off the main grid!"

Then there's just the wee problem of a 13-year-old stupid enough to tell a parent she's doing this stuff. I shudder to think of what this child's life will be like growing up that stupid. I cannot fathom how she managed to figure out how to play SL in the first place. geesh.

Your not diffusing a bomb here ffs.. this post is ridiculasly over stated to the point of comedy..

BRAVO!!! Well said!

I call shenangans. If you're buying it after the "her mom told her to make her boobies bigger" statement, then I'm a Nigerian prince who needs help getting some funds I inherited out of the country!

Regards,

-Flip

I first read this at 4:30 am. and reacted emotionally, rather than logically...
heres the clincher that its a bogus story..

"Ok ill try live help first and check her profile in a few days to see if she is still around."

Yeah right, the girl whom she'd just met gave her the accounts name.....
not gonna happen.

I agree for a girl. Had this been a 13 year old boy viewing adult material then it's not so much of a problem - very few 13 boys DON'T have porn under their beds (normally a lot more graphic and realistic than SL sex). This may sound sexist but the fact is, when you get right down to it, sex for a male is mostly just about scratching an itch.

It's like my little brother playing Grand Theft Auto when he was 14.

There's actual depictions of stripper-rape in that game, you know? Like a lot worse than can be achieved in SL with pose balls.

It's downright pornographic.

Yet it's not illegal, nor would my parents get in trouble for allowing him to play it.

No one's condoning a thirteen year old having cybersex with adults. At all. We're condoning the violent overreaction for the sake of "TEH CHILDRENZ!" on a story that seems comical.

Report the child, yes. Let the Lindens sort it out.

But the parent didn't do anything illegal. Would you appreciate it if some busybody parent saw your son/daughter playing Grand Theft Auto and called child welfare on you?

This is sexist, and incorrect.

I lost my virginity at 13 (to an older, legal, girl by the way). It did me no harm whatsoever. I have always had a healthy attitude towards sex (I believe because of having started early, not in spite of it) and only engage in sexual activity in a loving relationship.

I think it's important to remember that we keep our children artificially young nowadays. 100 years ago, a 13 year old was perhaps not quite considered an adult, but very nearly. Don't forget, Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet ate 13 and 14 respectively - Helen of Troy, the wife of King Menaleus of Mycea, was 14 when she ran off with Paris to Troy. Cleopatra was about 16 when she had an affair with Julius Caesar, followed shortly by Mark Anthony.

Many 13 year olds are not able to deal with the emotional consequences of sex, but that's not because they are inherantly incapable of it. It is because over-protective parents stifle their growth and make them emotionally stunted and immature. It's true of all of us today. Physically, a 13 year old is very nearly an adult. What they need is to be able to develop emotionally, and keeping them wrapped in cotton wool does not help. SL is a good place, when properly supervised by an adult, for a young person to learn about how sex features in human interraction, and to learn about atleast some of the emotional pitfalls.

Sexist yes, incorrect no. For me personally, emotion doesn't feature very much as part of my sex life. I love my fiance very much, we've been together 5 years, but seriously sex is just a mechanical requirement, like eating and breathing. No one is suggesting that there are emotional ramifactions of eating are they?

Maybe I'm a vulcan.

Then that's you.

It's still sexist and incorrect.

No, you're mistaken.

Wrong.

Ask someone with bolemia.. or someone with serious overweight problem (due health problems or not)... or people who don't fit the "model" pushed on them by the society...


If you say so...

Morwen.

What are technically known as "weak people" then you mean?

I beg to differ.

We can do this all day Joshua. My point here is that I may have made a blanket statement to which there are some exceptions, but I have atleast tried to backup my arguement. You however felt that your statement was self-proving and required no further evidence to back it up. So while the evidence I have supplied may be flawed in many ways - flawed evidence is still stronger than no evidence. Simply saying "You're wrong" is no kind of argument at all.

There are is no such thing as a self-proving argument. All arguements need facts, case-studies, examples and data to back them up. I'd be genuinely interested to hear yours Joshua, so we can go forward with this debate like grown ups.

Oh boy, dead right there. Can't be any other option than reporting to welfare or social or whatever is nearest to that... the only other possibility is that you are the victim of what we brits call "a wind-up" (malicious storis chosen carefully to freak you out) - but that doesn't matter. On this subject, being freaked out is entirely permitted, and there's a bunch of people in local services in most Western countries who say that this is something they deal with.

So: go to them, explain the problem... and step as far back as you can!

All well and good; however, you are not the girl in question. The girl in question exists in a social framework in which the factors you describe are not present - indeed, she chose to bring this topic up in a situation which has nothing to do with your life anecdotes.

It's that which is the red flag, not the mechanical or social consequences of how this particular, reported incident can be used by you as a mirror to tell us all how wonderful you are.

Way to go on the narcissism, by the way. Very civic-minded.

Weak people? No, people with problems (health or not) are often far from "weak".

Morwen.

I think you missed the point of what I was saying Gummi. My point was that a normal person, any normal person, when given the opportunity to develop naturally, at a normal rate (determined by them in otherwords, not constricted by over protective parents) will develop healthy attitudes. I don't consider myself special, far from it, I'm just a regular guy. That's what I'm trying to get across - the development of the healthy teens should not be stunted because of overprotective reactions to the minority of emotionally stunted ones.

People who are incapable of controlling their emotions are weak.

Whaat??? Full English Breakfast .. <swoon>

Seriously though, a lot of guys are emotional about sex. And are the many, many people who preserve their virgnity for that 'special person', wrong?

Sorry Conan, but while I've wholeheartedly agreed with you on other issues ... I think you are being a little bit Vulcan here.

There is a big difference between viewing porn at 13 (normal and appropriate) and becoming a sex worker at 13 (yikes).
-Sylvia

You made a blanket statement which was wrong, and to which everyone but you, apparently, are excepted.

It wasn't factual, true, well-thought-out, or even intelligently hateful.

I don't particularly appreciate being told that my interest in sex is an "itch." I apologise for your behalf if you've thus far managed to go through life without managing a relationship where you had an actual, human connection to someone else, but please don't project your sociopathy onto my penis.

Take care.

That's better. A proper response instead of basically saying "your mom" was all I wanted. I can be satisfied with that. It's a shame that it takes me making deliberately outrageous statements to get people to start thinking. Back to my main point (because I feel that you've latched onto a peripheral point I was making at the same time).

Let's start by assuming that your suggestion that males and females have the same emotional response to sex is true, and go from there. This girl (this fictional girl, I should add, since it's become clear that the OP was telling us a fake urban myth) is doing is nothing worse than looking at porn. She has a bit of input into the content of said porn (that's basically what sex in Sl is, making porn together) but it's more or less the same as watching a porn film.

I can think of no reason why looking at porn would in any way damage a 13 year old. Show me a 13 year old boy who has no porn, and I'll show you a 13 year old boy who is very cunning at hiding their porn. Any younger and it may be undesirable, I grant you.

So it follows that, so long as the young person understands the distinction between SL and RL (which is where we have to judge each individual case on it's merits basically) then engaging in SL cannot be harmful.

Back to what you were saying:
I feel sorry for you in turn that you require the simple mechanics of stuffing body parts into one another, and that you think that is some sort of spiritual and emotional connection. If you think that this simple act of copulation has anything of a more spiritual content, then I am truly sad for you because to think that, you must surely have never been able to experience a true connection with someone, or else you would realise how lowly and mechanical sex is (fun and I recommend doing it as much as possible, but ultimately only serves the purpose of reproduction). You're like a child who finds a quarter and thinks he's rich - when that child finds $10 he realises how worthless the quarter really was though.