13 year old exotic dancer
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Stephenie Pow
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11-09-2006 19:39
My daughters New school friend was over today when she came in she saw my older daughter helping her sister build on her first land and was all OMG you play secondlife so do i, I'm a dancer and i get paid to give guys BJ's and have sex with them.
Both of my girls slowly turn away from the computer desk there eyes were huge looking at me at that moment i could read there thoughts "did she just say that with mom in the room"
Anyway i don't know how or who i tell that she should be moved to the teen grid do i just go to live help or send an email?
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Radar Barragar
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11-09-2006 19:41
Holy lord. I hope you called and told the kid's parents. And I hope they care.
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Joseph Worthington
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11-09-2006 19:43
While I've never experienced anything like this myself, my first responce would be to send the girl's avatar's name to Live Help and make them aware that you know for a fact that the user in question in underage. Proving it will be another matter altogether, but hopefully it will at least start the process of getting the account looked into and the proper steps (Moving it? Banning it?) taken.
~EDIT~ God yes....call the girl's parents first. Of course that should be the first step.
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Angelique LaFollette
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11-09-2006 19:55
Contact her Parents IMMEDIATLEY!!
There is NO WAY a Thirteen year old Child should be Engaging in Activities of that kind ANYWHERE. If you Find their Parent Uninterested in your Concerns, you may also have to Involve Chile Welfare authorities within your Jurisdiction. Knowing what you Know now you have a Moral (And legal) Obligation to Act Upon it to Prevent it's continuation, Don't wait another Second.
Yes, this MAY cost your Daughter a friend, But in the Long Run, it's Lose a friend to preserve the Girls Safety, or Keep her friendship until her actions place her in RL Danger.
Do what you Know is right, and DO IT NOW.
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Stephenie Pow
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11-09-2006 19:57
Ok ill try live help first and check her profile in a few days to see if she is still around. Radar she said her mom knows and told her to make her boobs bigger got to keep that one far away from my child.
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Angelique LaFollette
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11-09-2006 20:15
From: Stephenie Pow Ok ill try live help first and check her profile in a few days to see if she is still around. Radar she said her mom knows and told her to make her boobs bigger got to keep that one far away from my child. Definatley Contact the Child Welfare Authority in your Jurisdiction. A.
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Coyote Momiji
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11-09-2006 20:19
Christ.
I second Angel's recommendation.
F*ck.
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Usagi Musashi
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Just plain sick!
11-09-2006 20:20
Oh gesh...........these are problems that are plaging sl over and over again! I really do feel sorry the parents and the girl. Another reason to put proof of age inthe sign up! Sooner or later the standards for control kids in the game wil come.
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Lucifer Baphomet
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11-09-2006 20:27
 Lets face it, with open registration, weve all seen this coming for a long time. Maybe its time to stop it?
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Joshua Nightshade
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11-09-2006 20:27
Okay, morality police, take a step back and breathe.
Yes, contact the Lindens and have the girl(s) removed.
However, there's really nothing that the parent has done that would fall under anything child welfare can or should be involved in.
If her mom knows she's giving "e-blowjobs" and etc to other people that's one thing, chances are she doesn't and you're taking the context of whatever was said about her boobs wrong.
Tell the mom what she's doing, contact the Lindens, think very, very carefully though before you start running around involving legalities in it.
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11-09-2006 20:44
that is such a hot made up story! my brother saw a donkey show!
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Lucifer Baphomet
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11-09-2006 20:46
From: Taco Rubio that is such a hot made up story! my brother saw a donkey show! always a possibility Taco
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Taco Rubio
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11-09-2006 20:49
i don't have a brother 
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Lucifer Baphomet
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11-09-2006 20:50
From: Taco Rubio i don't have a brother  Ok, I'll adopt you... and my 2 sons can be your brothers.
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Susie Boffin
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11-09-2006 21:20
I totally recommend calling 911 immediately! It is a total travesty of justice and I am sure the police will be right out there. What will you people try to do next to try to change the open registration policy?
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Vivianne Draper
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11-09-2006 21:24
seriously? a 13 year old told you she was exotic dancing and giving bj's in second life and your first action was to run to the forums and ask for advice? seriously? not real long on thought processes there are ya?
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Vudu Suavage
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11-09-2006 21:52
Wow, lots of outlandish over-reactions in this thread. Maybe we should brand the mother and child with big red 'A's, then burn our hard drives.
Yes, contact LL to have the avatar moved to the teen grid--an Abuse Report is probably the best way. Probably also have a non-juddgemental conversation with the mother, letting her know the extent of the activities. No one has been molested here and not everyone shares the same mores on what children should know (or at least tell you they know) about sex.
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Stephenie Pow
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11-09-2006 22:01
From: Vivianne Draper seriously? a 13 year old told you she was exotic dancing and giving bj's in second life and your first action was to run to the forums and ask for advice? seriously? not real long on thought processes there are ya? I came to find out how to report it i have never reported anything and did not know were to start Live help told me to file an Abuse Report under Age i did i gave them her game name and RL name and address. A Lindon found me in game and she is not found on people search so i assume she was moved to the teen grid. I did my part her mom can do the rest.
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lilly Margetts
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11-09-2006 22:08
even if she had sex,her AVATAR had sex,not her,stop being paranoid.
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Allana Dion
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11-09-2006 23:46
I have a teenage daughter and trust me, the odds of a teenager actually making that statement knowing a parent was in the room are slim to none. In fact, it's not even likely she'd make the statement to her friends alone until after getting a feel for what they think of it and how they spend their time in SL first. Plus knowing what you know about teenagers and their parents, is it really likely that a mother and daughter are discussing and collaborating on things like cybersex and boob size? Hardly.
So I have a very hard time believing this is a true story.
But let's say for the sake of argument that it actually happened.
Step one, you sit down with the kid and get as much of the truth as you can. Try to get her to actually put into words what she does online and how much of what she said is bragging and how much is accurate.
Step two, talk to her about the risks of being online. Because at the end of the day she's going to do her own thing no matter what you or anyone else thinks. She's 13 not 3, she's making her own decisions whether you think she's ready to or not, give her something to think about while she's making them.
Step three, report her anonymously to the Lindens.
Step four, call the parent and do not accuse, do not judge, simply politely and respectfully inform. And for the sake of your own relationship with your own child...keep your child out of it. If you force her to rat on her friend or cause a rift between her and her friend, she will only resent you for it and you will create a rift in your own relationship.
Step five, walk away, concentrate on raising your own kids and let the other parents raise theirs.
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Usagi Musashi
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11-10-2006 01:04
how so? its a know fact there very young kids in this game. In fact even in some of the helper groups. Sorry but this story is very believable.
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Morwen Bunin
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11-10-2006 01:15
From: lilly Margetts even if she had sex,her AVATAR had sex,not her,stop being paranoid. And you think sex is only something physical? The psychological/mental consequences for a younger person can be very bad, even when it was just cybering. Morwen.
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Maggie McArdle
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11-10-2006 01:54
i am surprised at some of the responses this thread has gotten. wether the poster made it up or not, its disturbing, that a majority here would condone a 13yo was engaging in adult activities. obviously the poster is familiar with the childs parent(at least i hope so) and called them first before posting for help in how to deal with it in game.
wether it was her ava or not there is still a child behind the keyboard engaging in things she shouldnt. i for one would love to see the open registration unverufyable accounts cease but not at the expense of using or making up such a story as this(however perhaps(HAHA) LL will take a closer look at this practicve and admit(yeah right) that maybe it wasnt such a good idea.
made up or not it makes You wonder: how many kids are actually in the adult grid?
sidenote to Morwen: dont give it the satisfaction hun, flamer all the way.
p.s. shakes my head: no wonder we have a generation of babies having babies: parents to afraid to parent. no 13 yo should have to deal with sexual issues. at least not in this form.better to overreact and lose a friend for a season. then to shrug say not my kid and have them become another statistic, or a blurb on the morning news.
i remember a time when i couldnt do any dirt, because by the time i got home my mom knew what i did, where i did it, and whom i did it with. How? old school nieghborhood watch. maybe the media has made everyone so scared of everybody, that parents are to terrified to discipline or take responsibility for thier own childs actions.
again, i find the responses to this most disturbing.
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Conan Godwin
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11-10-2006 02:00
From: Stephenie Pow My daughters New school friend was over today when she came in she saw my older daughter helping her sister build on her first land and was all OMG you play secondlife so do i, I'm a dancer and i get paid to give guys BJ's and have sex with them.
Both of my girls slowly turn away from the computer desk there eyes were huge looking at me at that moment i could read there thoughts "did she just say that with mom in the room"
Anyway i don't know how or who i tell that she should be moved to the teen grid do i just go to live help or send an email? Worrying. So long as the child is capable of understanding the distinction between real life and a computer game there isn't too much of a problem. A lot of 13 year olds aren't, but a few mature ones are. However, if she were one of the mature ones capable of engaging with adult themes in a safe and responsible manner, then she would have also had the sense to keep quiet while you were there. Personally, at 13 I reckon I was mature enough to have dealt with these kind of situations, but most of my friends weren't. You have to judge each case on it's merits I suppose, and in this case I'd defintitely say there's cause for concern.
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Alazarin Mondrian
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11-10-2006 02:17
I do tend to side with Allana and Joshua here in that I feel most people are needlessly overreacting. Most certainly report the minor (and her underage friends) to LL in order to arrange for them to be moved to the Teen Grid. Then, if possible, arrange for a session or three of non-judgemental counselling for the parent and child. Involving the law, social services, authorities, whatever is possibly a bit extreme. We're not dealing with a child abuser and victim here, merely a parent who's possibly a bit lax and a typical teenager out to get away with whatever she can.
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