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Yron Dryke
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11-01-2008 03:36
Personnal decision and i think you all should do the same thing or at least hardly consider it.

I love sl and my avatar,ive spend sooo much on him and its sad to loose all this.
But i H@te linden,since i came 2 years ago,its mostly got worst and worst and worst.
Linden have made so many bad thing and bad decision for me they seem to have done
mostly nothing good...They still making such error even after have been here during over 5 years now.They play with us like they want.

They saw how much we got upset about this new changes and they probably heard that loads of people was looking for an alternative,so they didnt had choice but to say that they was going to think about the situation...But seriously,linden think?its never get better after so whatever!

They gave us the realy basic to play with,every single resident have contribute to make this world.We own their servers and we made the beauty of this world completly.They doesnt threat us as we should be threaten at all.

My alternative was to look on the side and i found another game.They only been here since 1 years but you can tell that they going to get better then sl no doubt.
A world made by sl users that got tired to get played by linden and saw that there was no good futur with linden,even 1 year ago.Lower cost,the comunity is better and much happier,contribute to create our world.

Consider it.
I prefer start over then get played over and over.
Ceka Cianci
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11-01-2008 04:47
i'm curious.what is this new game you found?
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Yron Dryke
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11-01-2008 05:14
There is many many alternative now,type second life alternative or other key words in google or kind of research tools.You will find it very easily.I have lost my respect for linden but i wont go to name other names of game there.
Novis Dyrssen
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11-01-2008 05:23
You seem to have a loud mouth but nothing to back it up. If you'd really have an alternative, you'd spill it happily so people would follow you in a rush. So far, there is no real alternative to SL.

Edit:

Oh, and - can I have your stuff?
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Conifer Dada
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11-01-2008 05:25
I've also been in Second Life for just over 2 years. My experience has been totally different. Second Life has got better and better over that time. I can't see any reason for hating Linden Lab, I've always found them helpful if I've approached them with a problem. I'm not pretending SL is perfect - it does go wrong sometimes, like most things do.
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Wulfric Chevalier
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11-01-2008 05:29
SL has not got worse in the last 2 years, it's more stable and has better features than it ever did.

And many of know about the competitors to SL, we've been there, tried them and we're still here.
Puppet Shepherd
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11-01-2008 05:35
From: Yron Dryke
Personnal decision and i think you all should do the same thing or at least hardly consider it.

No. I prefer my version of reality, thank you.

/me will fight Novis over who gets your stuff. ;)
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Milla Alexandre
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11-01-2008 05:59
Um..... I disagree. My SL experience has improved since I first logged in Jan 2007. I stay away from anything that would cause me to take SL too seriously. I don't try to run a business (my RL simply doesn't allow time for that kind of a whim) and though I own land....I don't get freaked about what might happen tomorrow.

I think a LOT of what folks complain about with SL has to do with their attitude surrounding their experience. I see it as entertainment...a guilty pleasure...an escape...and a giant ever changing canvas that I can explore. I love it for what it is and I don't whine about what the Lindens are or are not doing. (I also have a really good computer that consistantly performs well for SL)

On the other hand....if I found a new place and decided to move on for whatever reason....I'd just do it. No big soap box explanation needed. ;)
FD Spark
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11-01-2008 06:02
Actually if it was textures or anything the Op made once the account is canceled
so does everything the person makes unless they are like Starax or something and
some special LL magic occurs to keep the content so if its stuff Op made no you
can't have their stuff
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11-01-2008 06:05
From: FD Spark
Actually if it was textures or anything the Op made once the account is canceled
so does everything the person makes unless they are like Starax or something and
some special LL magic occurs to keep the content so if its stuff Op made no you
can't have their stuff


Not true at all. There's tons of stuff still in world from people with cancelled accounts.
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FD Spark
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11-01-2008 06:08
I know that but when I have had newer friends from last year who terminate their account even my alts content vanishes from the creator field, the texture of the cancel account. I assume its newer thing they do with cancel members accounts.
Anyone else notice this?
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11-01-2008 06:13
From: FD Spark
I know that but when I have had newer friends cancel stuff even alts it vanishes.
Wonder why?

Sounds like a good question for a support ticket! Maybe if they're the only ones that have it in their inventory, the UUID gets wiped out from nonuse when LL does their purges? If the stuff is widely distributed among active avatars, it wouldn't happen. I have tons of stuff made by an avatar that I used to have but cancelled a long time ago.

Nonetheless, if the OP is leaving, and has good stuff, I want it! MY world, dammit! I want it all! :D
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FD Spark
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11-01-2008 06:15
I guess it has to be widely distributed only. If it is 2 or 3 people who have their stuff
of canceled account then they can delete it from the uuid list.
If I gave you things and deleted my account most like it would vanish
from your inventory or cease to function because you would be one of
few who has that specific item.
I am curious if others made a alt, had that alt make something have the alt sent item to one or two person something they made then n cancel the account try to find item week later to use it ir it would still be there for them? Or is it just me?
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Amaranthim Talon
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11-01-2008 06:34
i realize LL has problems- but honestly - how can any one say things have gotten worse? I wasn't here at the "dawn of time" but I was here two years ago and I remember Wednesday outages and shoes up the butt and countless other crap? No - LL is not worse - it's a hundred times better. To the OP - you want to go? Go- don't let the door hit you on the butt as you leave. And have fun in OpenLife- one day it will be an alternative- right now it's a settlers paradise.
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Conifer Dada
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11-01-2008 06:52
I was guessing the other world mentioned above is Open Life too. It's just celebrated its first anniversary. I belong to OL as well, as Conifer Dada and looking the same as I do in SL. OL is exactly the same as SL in its operation and graphics as it's built from LL's open source data. The main visual difference to SL is land ownership is on a whole-sim basis, so I haven't noticed any ad farms and there's less clutter. I'm just a basic account in OL, I don't own land there. I do have a secret sky hangout above a sim that appears to be disused but allows building.
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11-01-2008 07:14
From: Yron Dryke
Personnal (snip . . . semi-incoherent rant by EAASL avatar with little imagination . . . snip) over.

Couldn't find a question, so I can't offer an answer.

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11-01-2008 07:54
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If you seek bad, you will find bad.

If you seek good, you will find good.
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11-01-2008 08:04
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11-01-2008 08:07
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Jig Chippewa
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11-01-2008 08:21
We tend to see the Lindens as a government voted in to provide its citizens with what the citizens want. But it is a business venture and if we dont like the product we don't buy into it. To a certain extent I know exactly the rules of the game they are playing - they can invite comment from customers but cannot allow customers to dictate the product. Doing so would ruin their objectives and lead to creative-anarchy; that would be a business model foomed to failure. I like it here because I accept the rules of the game as much as possible. It's like backgammon. The dice are rolled, I place my bet when I can and I play my game. They are NOT Main Street America.
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11-01-2008 08:34
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We tend to see the Lindens as a government voted in to provide its citizens with what the citizens want. But it is a business venture and if we dont like the product we don't buy into it. To a certain extent I know exactly the rules of the game they are playing - they can invite comment from customers but cannot allow customers to dictate the product. Doing so would ruin their objectives and lead to creative-anarchy; that would be a business model foomed to failure. I like it here because I accept the rules of the game as much as possible. It's like backgammon. The dice are rolled, I place my bet when I can and I play my game. They are NOT Main Street America.


No, you are right they aren't. But they themselves have to bear some of the responsibilty for the misconception. From the whole "Owning Land" myth, to all the other hype of SL being a community, calling the customers Residents and so on, they do give that impression, and use it to generate income. But all they are is as you say just an Internet Service Provider/Game Developr
Yron Dryke
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11-01-2008 08:49
Loud mouth?do you realy think i would loose my F**** time to come here talking about there tons of alternative if there wouldnt have any ? No i got no time to waste with sl anymoore and i was just trying to give yall advice but do as you wish.

Thecnically on loads of point yes it does got lot better theres no doubt,but go read and listen all the people that have invest real money into this game and after that come back talk to me.Linden been playing with us on so many ways,thats my opignon,respect mine as i respect yours.


The last announcement been the total proof that they dont listen at us and they dont care about us.Do you realy think that the demands for free ocean view for 75$ monthly was enought big to sl release and work on such a project ?And they didnt care because if they would have knew us they would have knew that u give us 3750 prims,we will use it.And when they have upgrade the prims to the double of what they was at first though,they knew whats was going on.And now what,long time after release of opensim,they are now changing everything,375 to buy and 125 month.They been playing so much with the land market since a to long time and as well with us...Anyway my thoughts.

And that was just an exemple of what they did.They been here for over 5 years and they still making such hugeeee erors...this is soo pathetic.67% increase thats a ** joke.

Go look on the side,how much its cost to buy and do the maintenance of servers in real life,you might realise some big stuff there.Compare with other compagny before tell me that i have a big mouth and after that u might regret what uve just said.



And btw this game isnt a freaking product man they change rules none stop...u can like how they was at first and have invest ur money and then bang they change everything and u get lost...WAKE THE HELL UP DAMN IT..are yall ret@rded or what ?
Brenda Connolly
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11-01-2008 08:52
Not tryng to be rude or anything, but we all would like to see some of these SL alternatives. Do you have one you recommend? Or ones we should avoid?
Raudf Fox
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11-01-2008 08:57
I must say, while SL improves in performance, it does seem like Linden Labs is determined to tick off it's user base on a regular basis. I can understand banning sexual age play and I applaud it. I can understand banning gambling and banks and applaud it.

Somethings boggle me, however. They make drastic changes to pricing, open flood gates and even how sims are purchase without ever using an ounce of the foresight that they have to possess as a company.

In the case of 06/06/06, I'm not unhappy with this change. I was against it because estate and land owners didn't have the tools to deal with the increase of griefers that of course came with the flood gates being opened. We still don't... at least not from LL. If they didn't figure out what was likely to happen, they could have actually listened to us. We TOLD them what was likely to happen, and sure enough, it happened.

Same goes for the openspace sims. They took away any form of regulation that it had and then expected people to continue using the sims as they always had. We told them this might happen. We've discussed it here in the forums often enough that if they'd paid an ounce of attention, they'd have already had the issue resolved and without such a drastic price increase.

It's like the moment they put on a Linden last name, all thoughts of how to be a regular user vanish. It's like they were never users of the very platform, which in some cases, I know is a possibility...

If I didn't love Second Life so much, I'd have been gone long ago. But it's the things that I can do in SL that keeps me around.

So, OP, can I have your stuff when you leave?
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