How LL could make bots irrelevant

And that's fine, but it doesn't necessarily have to be that way for everyone?



And people refuse to involve me in them, saying things like "I'm done" or "there's no point talking to you", or even..



.. telling me that I can't.

i'm just saying you have more chance now than you ever had and still you are looking for a push..
you can call that demotivating if you want but most would call it a test to their character to get up and prove themselves..
motivation is not about babying..
and if that demotivates you then don't even enter business because coffee breaks are tuffer than the 50 ways and back thing lol

Um, you said, "if I can't do it by now, I'll never be able to". That attitude is unfortunately very common among helpers/teachers when they have older users showing up at sandboxes etc. - I'm glad Jojogirl hasn't encountered it yet, but someday she might!

But moreover, the whole point of "there's no point debating with you".. well.. proving me wrong would enable me to do these things.. so they're basically saying there's no point in me doing that.

Well, as long as you realise that your assumption wes entirely incorrect, then it's OK with me.




Yes I know that Traffic has a lesser impact on All Search. I've known that ever since it bacame generally jnown to anyone interested.
My only beef with that part is that it should have any effect at all.

It appears that Picks have some significance as weighting, which has given rise to systematic pick buying. So Picks shold have the same significance that traffic should have. ie. None.

no proving my point would be that you can only do it if you want to..and if after all these threads of hearing this same thing with you wanting people to show you the way..if you have not figured it out by now then you just don't want to..
you have had input a side of fries in advice..that's the button but you just can't seem to see..or do see but enjoy acting like you don't lol

you put more effort in fighting advice than taking it..just imagine if you focused that energy and motivation into maybe trying it out ..
if it were a job and you were in an interview do you think you would get the job or the one that was motivating themselves to beat you out??cause business is just that..
a job .only it is yours to to do with as you please..


business is survival of the fittest and if we were a herd of water buffalo and the lions were coming i'm thinking you wouldn't be looking for the button then..you would be right up there running close to the front..
you just need to find your lion to get your butt on the move because it won't be another water buffalo for sure..not in the clutch.they'll be trippin you up to save their own butts lol

i have well over 1,000 dancers at a minimum that i have motivated to become very good earners in sl and have had clubs handed to me in the red and pulled them into the black..
all in motivating people to do their jobs..i know i can motivate people..
but only if they want to be..
so ya we are not debating at all..

the first step in getting someone to help is to show you are ready to put the effort in becoming better not anything else..
and i know you know this..

But that's just it.. I just wanted the same things Jojogirl talked about, that support of folks in sandboxes or equivalent.. But people refuse and make convoluted arguments like this.. And then after refusing they say, well if I don't have it now I never will, in other words they would refuse forever..

They say they don't lie debating, but they debate debate debate, and if I say they don't have to, they just go quiet.. Not starting to help..

If I complain they're not helping they will say they'll never help because I'm a complainer.. while they casually help new folks, even like Bella on this forum..

I have not had so much advice here, people always tell me what others could do, but people are not the same so why does that mean anything??

I once had someone telling me to do an event of a particular type.. But when I said noone was interested they debate debated in order to have a reason to mute me.. Instead of just tping to the event and proving me false..

God knows what I did wrong so far back but I'm tired..

well i must have never seen you actually looking..to me it always looked as if you were trying to just discuss things just to discuss..
so the only side i have ever seen was all these threads where it looks like you are debating more than looking for help..or what looked to me as that..

it's always good to ask why something works the way it does or how it goes together or what causes this to make that move..
i guess i just don't understand why if you ask a question that you would question something that has worked before actually trying it..

i mean i have never been in a sand box with you so i don't know why anyone would have a ruff time showing someone how to make something..

you just haven't found someone that is willing to take the time to explain the tools to you?? or is it they go to fast and you ask questions and they get frustrated?

what exactly is the root of it?? because if it's wanting to learn something i would be more than willing to show you what i can..i have can explain things to where my 8 year old nephew can use my tools sitting on my lap or go in depth..

if i can't answer the question i'll say it right there and we'll both look it up hahaha

but seriously i just thought you liked to debate from most of the threads i have seen and that impression was all i had to go off of..

If that's the case......i'm sorry to hear that!


Apart from the in-world classes, the Ivory Tower and other tutorials...i think the more specific building questions you could ask in "Content Creation" Forums on here, it has a section for just about every SL discipline. I have been reading more of it lately.....and the are plenty of helpful people around on those forums. I think you'll find that section more useful than the Residents Answers forum.

i notice you have an existing business (my SL partner is also a Scripter), that's a sound basis to expand from. You could always place another building next to your existing one, to use to sell your newly create products, whatever that might be.

I'll give you one tip, whatever you decide to build and sell....don't mix them in into your existing shop (Scripts & gadgets). In other words don't follow the Walmart model in SL and present yourself as a "jack of all trades" selling everything from 1 Shop. You're better off creating a new company, new logo, new brand...and market seperately. Preferably the 2nd Shop will be close to your 1st one on its own plot of land...so you can use its own unique keywords and can optimise that parcel separately. By being close to one another each shop will also benefit from cross traffic....that additional benefit costs nothing extra.

It isn't about the Ivory Tower or classes.. it's about people actually giving a damn, of being interested in working together or giving feedback or similar, as with Bella here. That's a whole world from someone giving a half-hour's tutorial on how to use the Edit buttons and then walking away, and saying that they can't teach the art side of it (which is my main sticking point). Yet they do teach it, by creating those feedback groups, even if they don't know it.

And even then the whole business issue isn't that major because I mainly cashed out only to pay tier, but if nobody gives a damn what's the point of putting anything on land?

When I debate.. people seem to give a damn.

I find that lots of people give a damn, and lots don't. It's simply a matter of finding those who do, and trying not to drive them bonkers.

PS, Yumi -- when I see your posts, I expect to read a rant, complaint, or criticism. I was delighted some time ago to see a few posts by you that were totally positive.

I confess I have a bad habit of not replying to posts I agree with, while replying to those I disagree with. No doubt that sets a bad tone for my posts too. I can be a pissy SOB at times! Now, where are my anti-pissy pills?

i see people asking for help in this forum all the time and getting it and then some..
but i see people asking for help that get snippy and not getting it or being told they are the ones asking for help and should calm it down if they want help..

Bella posted up something she made and asked for constructive criticism and thats the same as asking for opinions and help..

but if you don't sound like you are asking for help chances are you are not gonna get it..

And she was welcome to do that, while I.. well, I'm not going to say I wasn't, but I didn't feel I was.



And wow, how many times have I said I'm lacking help?

i offered it because it is the only time you sounded like you were actually looking for help..i could not tell before because i only really ever see you in these long discussions and debates all the time..
i actually just thought you liked debating lol
some people do like that ..

If I don't keep complaining people will say they had no idea I had a problem.

Anyway, this is getting too OT and personal. Is OBTL an acronym? I guess it is now.

The building side of things is not so difficult to learn, its kind of black and white in what can or can't be done within SL.......but you'll need the creative aspect too...you need that vision. Researching comes in handy, styles, colours, concepts....and develop your own version from there. There are plenty of full perm freebies knocking around ...you could dismantle these products to see how things have been created, the techniques used, the prims shapes, the texturing etc etc
At the end of the day, what effort you put in, is what you'll get out!

Just verify all accounts, if an account can't be linked to a RL person within 6 months delete it. It's impossible to stop gaming of the system while continuing to allow infinate anomoymous alt accounts. 5 per person is enough period.