Is Paying for Links in Profile Picks Cheating?

If a noob read all that......they'd think the participants of this thread have a screw loose!
It doesn't help any of them make an evaluation either way.....it's not informative....its vague tangents which try to lead back to the original OP by some obscure route!

Well, Phil appears to be having issues with the concept of 'Cheating'.
It is therefore necessary to explain the meaning of the word before any progress can be made on the topic of the thread.

This sub-topic if infinitely more relevant to the thread than was your posting regarding drinking.

Would slipping the Hostess $20 to get you a better table ahead of another couple be cheating?

though I don't pay for picks, maybe should. its much like paying for a classified, or a service, then again, campers wher a 'Service" but campers caused uneeded lag

Aren't people allowed to have their own opinions regarding cheating & Picks camping? We all have different views about it....must you force it down our throats if we disagree with you? Who are you actually appealing to .......the naysayers or the middle ground?

Apparently not and people will also use examples of cheating where rules are broken and say they're the same as issues where rules aren't broken.

There has been plenty of "you should not think its cheating" going on in this thread too.

Very curious indeed.
If I post my opinions, it's "forcing it down (your) throats"
Somehow I suspect that you consider that you posting your opinions is not forcing it down anyone's throat.
This is hardly a balanced view.
You appear to be suffering from the same unwarranted arrogance as is Phil.

Ive never seen it as cheating it goes on all the time, It always helps to oil the wheels if you can afford to imho

Well to be honest Colette that's largely down to it not being cheating. It's hardly rocket science.

We have a draw each week for L$1000 our members can put us in their picks and one winner each week gets L$1000, but then i am not fussed where we are in search because we get a good steady stream of people on the sim through word of mouth and our RL businesses are picking up nicely via SL, but there again we don't sell anything in SL nor do i have to take an income from it, to us its the cheapest form of worldwide advertising we have ever found and its so much fun with all the great people we have met along the way.

Where else can you advertise in Real time and in 3d with the potential members for your RL websites

OHHHH

SO thats how it works.

If someone is of the opinion that it is cheating,

and tells you it is ...

Then they are trying to force their opinion on you.

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But if someone is of the opinion that it is not cheating ..

And they tell you it is not ..

They are merely telling the "truth".

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I see


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So this whole lamenting that one side was trying to tell the other side what to think was just .. typical bullshit.

their opinions aren't being "forced down our throats" though

because they are "Right", supposedly.

I feel sorry for people whose sense of right and wrong are determined by the prevalent authority.

No Colette, everyone is welcome to try and force their opinion on me, they've more hope of seeing Jesus, but they're welcome to try.

However if someone is of the opinion that something is cheating it helps if they have a base to make such a claim, IE a law or a rule. Neither of which, despite several requests from me, you or any of the others have been able to produce.

Hence it's like the abortion issue, people don't like it, but it's not cheating.



Not at all, arguments need a basis, the anti side haven't got one except for opinion. I can accept moral arguments, and I can accept opinions, but cheating has a defining line and is not a matter of opinion, it's a matter of rule of law.

Thats because to me right and wrong are not determined by a government, or a company, or a Authority figure, or a Linden.

Thus something can be wrong, it can be "cheating"

Regardless of what any Linden were to say.

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Something could be "Right" also regardless of what the law says.

Yet that's an ethical and personal issue. As I've said I don't think people should be advertising in signatures in this forum and despite there being no rule to say it's allowed or not, I choose not to do it because I don't think this is the place for it, but I don't call those who do "cheats" because there's no basis for that claim.



Well sort of, some laws are bad, and arguing against them is fine, but whilst the law says it's wrong, it's wrong. Any decent society allows people to hold a different view, but if the law says something is wrong, then it's wrong.

I think being chargd VAT here is a rip off, but that's the law so I argue with the law makers, I don't say it's cheating.

So there would be no cheating using the built in tools of the GSA to have your parcel listed first in all searches performed with it since there is no rule that says you can't?

It sounds like you would less an issue with me calling the buying of picks "WRONG" than you do with me calling it "CHEATING"

While to me they are basically synonyms describing a practice like this.

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So now were back to a definition of cheating. And back to me being curious that it mostly those who use UK style English who are holding that its not cheating.

See there is no inherent tie to a "law" or "rule" in my understanding of what could be cheating .. but to you it seems there is.

Stop trying to put words into my mouth, it's a tiresome tactic, I've said before that search can be cheated.

How can it be cheated if it's not cheating?

Ciaran,

Is it ever possible for someone to be cheating .. if no rule or law is broken?


At least that comes readily to mind.

I'd be happy for you to say it's cheating in your opinion, I'd be happy for you to say it's wrong in your opinion, i'd respect your opinion but the word "is" , to me, is a powerful word.

There are states in North America where marriage is allowed at ages I personally think is wrong, I find it morally reprehensible, but that's the law.



Without a tie to law or rule then it's in my opinion whether something is cheating, i can make representations that I believe it's wrong, but to state it is cheating, when the law says otherwise, is piffle to me.

You can't.

So then if I were to use the tolls Google built into the GSA (mainly used by HR and IT for compliance with SOX 404 and the monstrosity known as HIPPA) it would be fine and dandy. No way to be considered cheating then. Since there is nothing in the rules that say it can not be done.