Linden ID cards?

Unfortunately, Raudf Fox mixed up two different things. There's a difference between having an av that looks underage at an adult establishment and being underage in RL anywhere in SL, even PG places - except, of course, for the teen grid.

It doesn't sound like you're having the latter problem, so the payment info on file bit isn't really relevant. But if someone does AR you because they think you're underage in RL, you'll need to send LL proof of age. It's a bloody pain, and can take some time, but it's usually resolvable (at least for US residents; I don't know whether people from other countries have more problems with the proof of age part).

The sexual ageplay part is much more problematic. LL has a quick trigger finger on those. However, you haven't told us what sort of places you're going to or what you're doing, so it's difficult to evaluate the risk. But because LL is reacting like this, many landowners are being even more conservative than required by LL rules, because of their investment.

See, Kidd got it! I'm as clear as mud tonight, folks.

it's okay, blame it on the economy!.. or if you live in some place other than america.. you can blame it on.. the economy!

but i'm glad to see some folks arnt so far gone that they think to be of age means to be like the hulk.. i know iRL they wouldn't give me my ID at 18 untill I worked on my abs and biceps, but SL isn't RL *is kidding*

thanks for the responces! =D

my avi is only 5'2" same with the real me
I get called short in both worlds, but never get told I look like a kid

(have been told they want to put me on a shelf cuz I look so cute... )

shrug

this is one version of me (I tend to change quite often, but have been keeping the height though)

I dont think it happens as much with girls as it does with guys, being a "cute male" or as imnot put it in her picks "barely legal" male is hard to do without a stream of threats and bans, it seems like the only accepted male in alot of places is the big ol buff type or the little'ish neko type with five'o clock shadow. The girly guys like me get problems with people thinking we are a dipiction of an underaged boy

Which means you're deliberately making the land you pay for 20% smaller in every direction. Having a normal sized avatar is like getting a 36% tier bonus.

yur a genius! <.<

I know quite a few "non hulk" male avatars and never heard any of them say that folks threaten them or ban them due to their size and gender combination.
I dunno if it is different for men or women, when I used a female avatar that was younger looking there were times I would get the threat that I was being reported for being underage... *shrug*

I just told them look at my profile LOL

ever think maybe it is the places you are going, that have the type of people that are just waiting for avatars that look like yours, so they can make those useless threats?
(I am simply guessing as I have no idea where you are going LOL)

oh and imnot is also female... and if I recall correctly she did get reported to LL for being underage, based on the avatar.. (correct me if I am wrong immy)

Four feet... er, paws...

Close. I was reported an suspended for (Sexual) ageplay while I was in a PG event on PG land in a PG adult/cyborg avatar. Not fun. (>_<

I met Kitt inworld last night. He’s a bit taller than me and surely much smaller than the typical massive mound of machismo and muscle that I usually wind up spotting. In my eyes, nothing about him says “kid” and this all goes back to the stick-up-the-butt types that have decided being shorter than their sense of scale is some sort of moral violation of unspoken codes and conduct. (=_=)

And they're the ones who say size is relative anyway.

Try being "short" (realistic sized rather than an 8 foot gargantuan) and having the name "Lolita"

ya Imnot I seen you wearing partial nudity at PG events. *sigh* (no I didnt report you lol)

Kitteon I invite you to consider this:

SL isn't earth as we know it, and we aren't literal humans. Everything is bigger and taller in SL. Maybe a literal translation of height is not applicable in SL as far as the norm goes. It's anyone's guess who started it, or maybe average became 2 meters for building convenience's sake and everyone took it from there. Consider changing your av's height unless you simply want to be characterized as short among SL Avs.

Kitteon, I totally get why you want your AV to look the way it does, and I imagine it's not that different from mine. I've tried adjusting the sliders over and over and each time, once I've shed the excess brawn, Qie ends up looking exactly the same.

I get some questions and remarks about avatar appearance, but not a lot. Qie may have an advantage, however, because most of the remarks come from non-Asians who quickly admit to having no clue how to judge the age of Asians even in RL.

One thought: you mentioned going out with your bf... I wonder if there could be something about *his* appearance that might trigger more questions about yours... a contrast effect or something. Of course, if you get hassled whether you're with him or not, that's not a good explanation. (Oh, I know! Dump that loser, and see if it helps. )

No kidding.



Also about 4' high, I guess that's about 12 hands.

No, it's not. Add to that, a literal translation ~is~ possible. A meter is a meter as it is applied to a prim and how the physics engine recognizes gravity.

There, literally defined. (^_^)

Just because it's some set group's fantasy to be giants among giants, that is by no means reserving the right to accuse anyone less than giants to be of questionable moral fiber... Which is what these bans stem from, by the way... (=_=)

While I don't approve of these bans, I also don't think they're necessarily a value judgment. It's protecting their investment, triggered by pure FUD: Fear that they'll lose their investment in their sim and business, uncertainty over how the rules are really enforced, and doubt that LL will be fair and give them warnings and guidance before pulling the plug.

Of course, some of the bans really are people making bogus value judgments.

I just bought a tiny moose avatar that giggles like a child. I haven't done much yet in SL as my moose, but it's obviously small, cute and childlike. Can I expect ARs if I go to the wrong area? I have a smaller adult avatar, but I've never been bothered by anyone about looking too young.

When I went to Zindra a few weeks back, I wore a silly camouflage prim box so no one would recognize me. I'm being silly here, but you know, that prim was only a few minutes old.

If someone does not agree with you on the child avatar issue they are selfish assholes. Why not take a more liberal stance and not create a US vs. THEM atmosphere with your statements? Some might take you seriously.

Hmm. It's true, a lot of the reactionary behavior is because people (especially business owners) have a vested interest in Second Life and LL isn't the best at being fair or even-handed when it comes to enforcing their edicts. And to be completely honest, there's no real way to protest/counter the punishment. You're pretty much screwed unless you want to take it to court. And face it, many of us can't afford that kind of thing.

But that doesn't make it any better. I'm willing to risk letting child avatars onto my mature parcel. Of course, there's nothing adult there, except me being occasionally nude in my workshop.. though that's even more rare than spotting a Linden outside of their office hours and outside of their sim.

Considering I'm not talking about, referring to, or visiting the subject of child avatars at all... I wonder who the "us" and "them" are in this scenario you're inventing. (=_=)

The subject here is adult avatar height and why it doesn't have to be 8 bloody feet tall to avoid bannings... As some people have difficulty avoiding. (=_=)

If you want to continue to 'Don Quixote' your anti-kid-AV campaign around... I suggest you go look for kid AV threads to troll. (=_=)y

*sigh* The OP asked this:

You responded with this:
Your response gives the impression that 'US' in this scenario are the child-like avatars. 'THEM' are the 'selfish A-holes'.

I am sure you can find a kinder, gentler way to describe the people that do not agree with you. Intolerance of people zealously protecting their virtual investments is not really a good stance to take. Educate - don't incite. Try to show that someone that engages in and supports the child avatar lifestyle can be mature enough to handle the responsibility.

Or keep posting negative attention-grabbing pictures of youthful avatars scantily clad or in innapropriate settings and calling people a-holes. Your choice.

I will say that it is kinda "odd" to be banned for looking "young" or actual height in real. It has happened to me. I also bought a mature woman's skin to see what that would do BUT it really didnt suit me and I felt very uncomfortable. I look young and act my age. I know this may cause some comment but sl is geared for 35 and up rather than younger like under 30s. Yet, sl does have significance for us also.
Child avis are a completely different kettle of fish. They "look" childlike but cant be children so the appearance is purely illusion.
A real 24 year old is more believable as a 24 year old in sl.
So act your age, you "swingers" out there!
Groovy Cats ...

I always think of the 24 year old avatars as the 'Barbie Girls' in SL. They shop and work as hosts in clubs and play house. And no one can mistake them for children.

My avatar has always been 5 feet tall (since 2005) But I have never been mistaken as a child avatar (that may be because I go neko most of the time).

There was this really well-made RP High School in SL once (I was hired to DJ one of their school dances). But I believe it became too sexual and LL had issues with it so it went away. It is a fine line to walk when choosing to be a smaller avatar in SL. The OP may need to wear a flashing titler so he will not be kicked anymore.

That is interesting because I always think of the barbie girls as really being in their 40's and upwards. Real 24 years olds dont dress or act like Barbies in real (despite stereotyping). I have never worked in a club or played houses. I am a normal shopper. I think average 20-30 year old user of sl is generally "normal" - most of my friends are, anyway.
Men also miscalculate when they are women and look like ... well, they look like Men in Drag or M.Ds.
They also use the most amazing "love-talk" I have ever heard which women simply dont use - "Split me with your poker", "Beat me with your breadbox" "I'll be your Sultana tonight, my liege" and sh#t like that.