Linden ID cards?

hello there forum! i was wondering how long i'm gonna have to wait for a linden issued ID card? hehe, just kidding!

but seriusly i'm getting very tired of having to live my second life in fear of an AR because my avatart looks 18-20 rather than 26+, i have gotten threats, ejections, bans, and all that. i feel like all these ideots never finished the last year of highschool then locked themselves up in a basement untill they were 30.. you can find guys of age with my shape everywhere, on TV, in movies.. and IN REALITY! not every man is a big buff 8 foot monster (I have nothing against 8 foot monsters! ), it gets old having to fend off the posability of an AR for being in an adult area with my boyfreind...

what are your thoughts on it, and feel free to disagree with me

I was once a 5 foot 8 SL woman, and loved my size, instead of the crazy tallness that is everywhere in SL. But helas, i bought a shape that i really liked (features on the face and all), and the only size i could get was of those 7feet and up.

So now i am one of those near 8 feet monsters that you are talking about, unwillingly. Haha.

Yeah... And you realize that even using the Aristotle age verification doesn't protect you from the ARs. Not even sending information TO LL after one protects you against future ARs.

Sadly, one just has to deal with the "savez teh chilrenz!111!!!" squads until they realize they are only saving pixels and not actual kids.

As for the height thing.. you can blame the camera for that.

basically i wasted about 100 linden (not alot!) arming myself with pictures of famus people and of boys i found around the net that fit the shape i have, as well as puting in my profile "I am not a child!"

i think that one would either mistake a scrawny boy for a girl, or just say he's gay, instead of assuming it's a child ;P

Being a small avatar is only one aspect. When a small avatar shows up with a doll in one arm and a lollipop stuck in their mouth, then they are doing a child role play. Or those wonderful shoes that leave footprints just begging for someone's attention. As I've seen this many times it is obvious that the "little" person is simply trying to aggravate owners who have a fear of loosing their lands due to the seriousness of the ban they would receive if LL decides they are supporting and/or promoting child porn.

Not saying you do that, but if you want this situation to improve, figure out a way to get rid of the troublemakers.

My 2 Lindens worth

Wright

18-20? then they haven't got a prim to stand on...

nah my avatar is about 5'11, least the magic block tells me that, and he's rather scrawney and girly looking but i think he looks like the average late teen guy, a little more feminin but still over 18, i've seen guys that look like him in their late 20s!

Yeah... but LL got a lot of bad press due to the child avatars being used for sex in SL. LL gave us (the mass of faceless users) the power to do one heck of a witch hunt. And I do mean witch hunt. Unfortunately, this seems to sweep up anyone who is short, thin, or in general might look remotely "kid" to them. And some people's judgment is greatly impaired

So, the first thing that comes to some people's minds is going to be, "ZOMG, he/she is a CHILD!!!! PERVERT!!!!" Regardless of whether or not the avatar is a child or not. Believe me, I changed Trilliannas's height because of that crap. No matter what you post in your profile, some people are just way to reactionary.

Not that this will make your situation any easier. All you can do is avoid the places that are actively hostile. Or... get your payment info on file and prove that you are an adult that way. It's good enough for the porn industry, the law and apparently, good enough for LL.

Maybe you're hanging out in the wrong places. Some people just like to cause trouble because they're not creative enough to entertain themselves otherwise. Mute and ignore, and don't sweat the AR threats.

It might also help if you took a snapshot of your avatar for your profile pic instead of the big-eyed anime looking drawing you currently have. But what you put in your picks should be sufficient to convince all but the most paranoid juviphobes.

/me merrily skips through this thread

who WAS that masked McCann...

These height numbers are meaningless and arbitrary, just like every other dimension in SL. My avatar has been as much a 7' tall with high heel boots, but I've seen female avs considerably taller. IMO, comparing your "height" in SL to anything else (including RL heights) other than the average height of other avs is nonsense. If you walk into a room of adults, all of whom are roughly the same height, and you're two feet shorter than all of them, are you really surprised that they think you're a child? Try a thought experiment: If, tomorrow, LL came in and multiplied every dimension in SL by a factor of 1.5, not changing the actual size of objects, just the numbers used to describe them, and everything remained the same apparent height, would that have any impact on how people perceive each others' avs? No, it would not. If, all of a sudden, I was 8 feet tall instead of 7, but I looked exactly the same (and so did everybody else) it wouldn't affect me one whit. And your av would now be 6'6" and you would still look like a child compared to all us 8 footers. My (admittedly somewhat convoluted) point is, the numbers don't mean jack, only the relative sizes.

my question is "why do people have to max out height?" is there something it fixes in the model like some warpage that you get at a smaller size? if so i do not see it. The default avatar size is 50% that's where i am, and my legs are a bit longer at 55% so i'm a bit taller than the default.. why is 7-9 feet the norm? and why should we accept it as the norm or risk getting ban over it when linden did not set 100% as the default position?

it's not very fun to be in a world where you are forced to look a certain way, in reality people come in all shapes and sizes but in SL, a place with that suposidly has more freedom than real life we are limited to the 8 foot look. What's next, only blonde hair and blue eyes? might as well be playing a text RP if your image has to be the same as everyone elses why bother with image at all?

She just knows I'm gonna start posting partial nudes again. =^-^=

@OP

Really... People are selfish A-holes. Sadly, when a land owner is a selfish A-hole, you kinda gotta go along with him/her. (>_<

My avatar is short... Considerably short. And completely a product of my own. (^_^)

I didn't go to a kid store or a kid sim and buy a kid avatar and a kid skin. (>_<

I made the shape. I adapted Eloh's Another skin with the makeup and body shading that I like. And, I determined that I created a cute-as-a-button 18 year old. =^-^=

If someone is going to be 8 feet tall. I feel they have no more right to refer to me as a child as I reserve in calling them Boobzilla Frankenslut and Hulk Manchunk. Xd

On that note, I know people that like being tall. More power to them! They do it with beauty, elegance, and self-respect. Some of them even look really hawt! (^_^)

But... There will be those who think they can individually dictate an adjusted scale simply because tall looks "normal" to them. When faced with such people, I simply move on. (=_=)

Now....

On to that partial nudity.... =^-^=

So... What if someone on an RP sim wants to be a dangerously imposing 8 foot tall Lycan that towers over all the humans and rightly so? (^_^)

Do they have to resort to stretch animations and extra prims to be 12 feet tall? Or would it be more reasonable to ask all the "normal" sized avatars to take on a "normal" scale according to prim height/accurate meters? (^_^)y

No no no! DX

Only ~RED~ hair and blue eyes... And one red eye for measure. =^-^=

never thought of that... YEAH! or like a giant robot!

18 is such an awkward age. I look young (in real also I think) so really these peopel who AR on basis of avitar apearance are a little skewed. Surely no one really does that? I understand a kid avi being ARed for wandering around in adult places, but young-looking" isnt a justifiable reason.
Also I keep my height reasonable and go from 5feet 4 to 5 feet 10. I was once asked to leave a place coz this bloke thought I looked too young but I didnt - he was just being a wa@nker.

I run it up (between 75 and 100) because that's the way I like it.

FWIW, I don't give people crap for being shorter than me, either. Your world, your imagination and all.

i havn't been AR'd yet but i have been ban multiple times for just standing there, just got ejected right as i was writing my last post. though i know some sim owners personally that know what's going on and they let me hang out there and explain to any people complaining that they are just stupid

Here's a fine example of a tall person I can really appreciate... Among many others. =^-^=

Payment Info On File or Payment Info Used doesn't mean anything to LL if somebody decides to AR you for being underaged. Your account will be suspended until you prove the AR is false, even if you have provided them with payment info. It's been done to premium accounts many times in the past and LL has given us no reason to believe they're going to stop doing so now.

so there is a trial sorta? i can fight an AR? by providing proof or a counter argument about my avatar looking like many other 18-23 males? I'm not sure how ARs work but it scares me that they can be used against me by stupid people that think the average young but of age male looks like conan.

That's about my height, not overly muscled, but not scrawny, either. My av could pass for 18-25. I don't think he could pass for 16 - my shoulders are just a bit too broad - but an overly paranoid guard might worry about it. I've never had any problems, but then again, I don't get out much these days, except to stores. Perhaps gay clubs are marginally more willing to accept youthful looking young men - but they're also very, very quick on the trigger if someone is obviously a kid av.

I will give one piece of advice: If you're at a sex club, never, ever ignore a question about your age when you show up. I'm not sure what the best answer would be, but I know they won't give you much time, and they will ban you if you ignore them.

No argument. That's the truth. It doesn't. I was rushed out the door before I realized what I'd typed. Sorry.

LL really needs to get their act together on the age thing. If you've already sent documents proving who you are, then all it'd take is a note or a check mark that says, "Has this avatar provided legal proof of age before?" If it's ticked or noted, then just unban them. This way, no info is kept on file and no repeats are required. But this is LL we're talking about..

The OP is suffering the backlash of the witch hunt because of one of LL's own rules about sexual age play. No child avatar should be used as a tool of sex.. or something like that. This witch hunt was started because of bad press setting the "savez the pixel childrenz!!!11" crowd on LL.

End result is that any short avatar with thin/child-like proportions are getting hassled and so to are the child avatars that stick to the rules. It doesn't matter what you put in your profile or say, some people are just going to rules-lawyers. They want something to pat themselves on the back for, like they've done some good in the world and without any real effort on their part.