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Xerxes Kingstop
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06-06-2008 06:52
From: Maureen Boccaccio
:eek: ouch! I do hope that dalmatian doesn't chomp off the other doggie's ear!

...or.....is Spot simply telling the other a bit of very startling news? :D


No danger,they're playing. "Startling news" ... :) I like it.
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06-06-2008 06:54
From: Xerxes Kingstop
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Pffffft! :p
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Maureen Boccaccio
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06-06-2008 06:54
From: Marcel Flatley
3Ring, isn't it sad how weird our society became?

The picture is nothing more then 2 amost nude people. Where nudity is perfectly natural, people find a picture like that more disturbing, then a picture about a shot person. To be honest I cannot relate the picture to porn stars, but your reaction isn't that weird: this is how people think nowadays.

At this very moment there is a tv commercial going in the Netherlands, about a mom and kid in the yard of their brand new house, when mom covers the eyes of the child so he (or she) cannot see the neighbours, who happen to be naked (and around 50-60ish). Commercial for an insurance company. Go figure that.

Maybe too serious for this thread, but how on earth could it ever happen, that a nude body has become disturbing????? And violence became very acceptable? Really, I don't get it. I don't.



Marcel, I was just thinking about this the other day - less about the issue of nudity and more about the issue of acceptable levels of violence on TV.

I was watching a TV miniseries...a remake of "The Andromeda Strain" (for US types, it was on A&E).

The level of violence was unbelievable!!! For example, there was one scene where a guy just took a chain saw and cut off his own head. This was A&E, mind you.

BUT!!! The censors felt the need to bleep out the word "ass."

What the heck???
Amaranthim Talon
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06-06-2008 06:55
Marcel- I too did not find the picture in the least bit disturbing. I thought it a lovely picture in fact. I suppose the shoot may or may not be problematic to the child- but I am reminded of watching Starship Troopers with a girlfriend and her young nephew long ago. The scene where the Bugs ate people's brains and folks got blown in half... that was ok for her to let him watch... but when there was the shower scene, she made him leave the room...
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06-06-2008 06:56
From: Rioko Bamaisin
Pffffft! :p

$50K Linden?
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06-06-2008 06:58
From: Amaranthim Talon
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I'll take that.:o



BTW I did not cheat and wasn't even looking for it lol. I just happen to be posting on that particular thread.:D
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Amaranthim Talon
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06-06-2008 06:59
From: Rioko Bamaisin
I'll take that.:o



BTW I did not cheat and wasn't even looking for it lol. I just happen to be posting on that particular thread.:D

I absolutely did cheat :) Had no interest in that thread whatsoever.
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06-06-2008 07:01
From: Marcel Flatley

Maybe too serious for this thread, but how on earth could it ever happen, that a nude body has become disturbing????? And violence became very acceptable? Really, I don't get it. I don't.


QFT!
People go into hysterics over 2 seconds' worth of naked nipple but they watch news reports of blown-apart bodies along dusty roadsides with barely a sigh. They rant and rave about family values and the moral destruction of their children, perhaps not realizing that the average 8-year old is NOT watching the Superbowl but can most certainly hear mothers screaming over dead babies on the 6 o'clock news.

What's wrong with people?
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06-06-2008 07:01
Hiya to all those who have arrived recently *waves*

From: Marcel Flatley
3Ring, isn't it sad how weird our society became?

The picture is nothing more then 2 amost nude people. Where nudity is perfectly natural, people find a picture like that more disturbing, then a picture about a shot person. To be honest I cannot relate the picture to porn stars, but your reaction isn't that weird: this is how people think nowadays.

At this very moment there is a tv commercial going in the Netherlands, about a mom and kid in the yard of their brand new house, when mom covers the eyes of the child so he (or she) cannot see the neighbours, who happen to be naked (and around 50-60ish). Commercial for an insurance company. Go figure that.

Maybe too serious for this thread, but how on earth could it ever happen, that a nude body has become disturbing????? And violence became very acceptable? Really, I don't get it. I don't.
I think the point that 3Ring is trying to make Marcel, is that the Mum might regret letting her daughter appear nude for pictures that are distributed across the internet when her daughter starts to do that for a living when she grows up, often that leads into porno type photoshoots in those instances. I do not think that 3Ring was saying there was anything pornographic about that photo just that the girl might grow up feeling that selling pictures of herself naked is OK, then end up in porno's due to pursuing that career and all because she did it with her Mum when she was a young girl.

Now I am not saying there is anything wrong pursuing that type of career but many Mums do not want their daughters doing that and in this case may not realise where it could lead her daughter.

3Ring if I got that wrong, I am sure you will tell me :) VV
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06-06-2008 07:02
From: Maureen Boccaccio
Marcel, I was just thinking about this the other day - less about the issue of nudity and more about the issue of acceptable levels of violence on TV.

I was watching a TV miniseries...a remake of "The Andromeda Strain" (for US types, it was on A&E).

The level of violence was unbelievable!!! For example, there was one scene where a guy just took a chain saw and cut off his own head. This was A&E, mind you.

BUT!!! The censors felt the need to bleep out the word "ass."

What the heck???


That is the main reason I decided to post this. Not as an attack on 3ring, but an "attack" on what we are becoming.

Call me weird, but I find nudity not the least disturbing. Allright, not every human body is pretty to look at, but disturbing? Come on. Well I saw some people at nude beaches.... never mind ;)

This particular picture probably was disturbing because there was a child on it. Since when are naked children disturbing? Probably since the witchhunt against child abuse. Which brought us to an era where fathers cannot even take a bath with their children, withour risking to be arrested. At some days this is making me pretty sick. Now is a day like that. And that on a friday....
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06-06-2008 07:03
Gabriel- I like your wicked smilies :)
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Gabriele Graves
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06-06-2008 07:04
From: Amaranthim Talon
Gabriel- I like your wicked smilies :)
Aww thank you :) VV
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06-06-2008 07:05
From: Amaranthim Talon
Marcel- I too did not find the picture in the least bit disturbing. I thought it a lovely picture in fact. I suppose the shoot may or may not be problematic to the child- but I am reminded of watching Starship Troopers with a girlfriend and her young nephew long ago. The scene where the Bugs ate people's brains and folks got blown in half... that was ok for her to let him watch... but when there was the shower scene, she made him leave the room...

It isn't that surprising, actually. A lot of the mores are the result of relifious sensibilities going back to the original Puritans, and carrying on to the fundamentalists and what is called "Middle America". We all know how many religions feel about violence, they've been demonstarting it for centuries. It acceptable. But sex........
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06-06-2008 07:06
BTW, Marcel- lovely to see you- glad you found time for us here again. You bring up good points but I do see Gabriele's take on it better now. Sadly, society is not terribly good at balance..

But it is Friday- happy anything and everything day. I came in this morning rather blech overall. Didn't sleep great last night, etc - a little while with you guys has made me smile a bit :)
Now if Yosef would jump in with a nice good morning my day will be set..
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06-06-2008 07:08
Absolutely correct Brenda- the Puritans reach across time and stifle us even now.
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06-06-2008 07:11
From: Gabriele Graves
I think the point that 3Ring is trying to make Marcel, is that the Mum might regret letting her daughter appear nude for pictures that are distributed across the internet when her daughter starts to do that for a living when she grows up, often that leads into porno type photoshoots in those instances.


Hey Gabriele ;)
Probably that was ment, but even then I really miss the point. The child is bare chested, nothing more. Do you really think that when a picture of a bare chested child appears in a magazine, the cover of which appears on the internet, the girl ends up in porn business? Well I really doubt it.

Sidenote: If it works for boys as well, I am going to rpess legal charges against my parents... what a waste of carreer possibilities...
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06-06-2008 07:11
OK...Happy Friday everyone!! TGIF. Does anyone have big plans for the weekend? (well, I recall that Claire is going to a big RL gig...)

And Marcel, it truly is delightful to see you in the threads again!
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06-06-2008 07:13
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Go buy the DVD *RIGHT NOW*. Don't rent it, because you'll want your own copy.

re: spikey boots. Don't cross your legs. Trust me on this one.

re: puppy. I am so jealous. We've always had Labs, but German Shepherd Dogs are another favorite of mine. We'll probably never own one, because they require quite a lot of attention. They're extremely intelligent, and aren't happy unless they have some sort of job to do. If you don't give them a job, they'll invent their own -- rearranging all your shoes, eating the siding off the house, terrorizing the mailman...

Our youngest Lab has an almost GSD-like level of intelligence and drive. He's the best dog we've ever owned, but he is a real handful. He knows how to open locked doors. :eek:
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06-06-2008 07:15
Will be a short visit though, in hour I leave work and go away for a weekend of... never mind, its gonna be fun ;)

@Brenda: Funny thing is, that you are doing the same as the ones censoring... which shows how much we all are brainwashed.
Nudity has nothing to do with sex!!! I can pretty wel have sex with my clothes (partially) on, and I can pretty well look at a naked person without thinking about sex.

In fact, I think just as much about sex when looking at a dressed women, then at a naked women. Figure that one out :D
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06-06-2008 07:18
From: Marcel Flatley
Hey Gabriele ;)
Probably that was ment, but even then I really miss the point. The child is bare chested, nothing more. Do you really think that when a picture of a bare chested child appears in a magazine, the cover of which appears on the internet, the girl ends up in porn business? Well I really doubt it.

Sidenote: If it works for boys as well, I am going to rpess legal charges against my parents... what a waste of carreer possibilities...
Hi Marcel, I was really trying to explain 3Rings point of view. However that said, yes if you "sell" your children in this way then I do believe it can end up that they might end up in something more pornographical eventually. I do beleive that 3Ring's point was showing the extremes rather than the norms though and not every child would end up that way or even most but it could end that way.

Parents do have to be extremely careful how they allow their children to appear in things such as magazines. Also much depends on what type magazine too. I would have less problem with a child of mine appearing in a women's health magazine than say the front of Time.
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06-06-2008 07:20
From: Marcel Flatley
3Ring, isn't it sad how weird our society became?

The picture is nothing more then 2 amost nude people. Where nudity is perfectly natural, people find a picture like that more disturbing, then a picture about a shot person. To be honest I cannot relate the picture to porn stars, but your reaction isn't that weird: this is how people think nowadays.

At this very moment there is a tv commercial going in the Netherlands, about a mom and kid in the yard of their brand new house, when mom covers the eyes of the child so he (or she) cannot see the neighbours, who happen to be naked (and around 50-60ish). Commercial for an insurance company. Go figure that.

Maybe too serious for this thread, but how on earth could it ever happen, that a nude body has become disturbing????? And violence became very acceptable? Really, I don't get it. I don't.

the disturbing part is that a parent would teach their child that nudity on film is degrading, and would put their child in such a situation. that child does not know better, but mom does or she wouldn't have her boobs covered up.

who says nudity has become more disturbing than death? but you have to admit, one incites good feelings in a person, the other - bad feelings. both ----> extreme feelings. i'm not sure how they compare.
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06-06-2008 07:22
From: Marcel Flatley
@Brenda: Funny thing is, that you are doing the same as the ones censoring... which shows how much we all are brainwashed.
Nudity has nothing to do with sex!!! I can pretty wel have sex with my clothes (partially) on, and I can pretty well look at a naked person without thinking about sex.

In fact, I think just as much about sex when looking at a dressed women, then at a naked women. Figure that one out :D
I don't beleive that 3Ring was really making an issue about the nudity you know, it is more that combined with the public distribution of the image. If the girl had appeared topless at home, or even on a nudist beach I doubt 3Ring would have felt the same.

The point is that those images are sold to a magazine.

Also it is not about sex but selling naked pictures of yourself often leads to being asked to participate in more sexual based photo shoots.
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06-06-2008 07:23
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06-06-2008 07:24
From: Gabriele Graves
Hiya to all those who have arrived recently *waves*

I think the point that 3Ring is trying to make Marcel, is that the Mum might regret letting her daughter appear nude for pictures that are distributed across the internet when her daughter starts to do that for a living when she grows up, often that leads into porno type photoshoots in those instances. I do not think that 3Ring was saying there was anything pornographic about that photo just that the girl might grow up feeling that selling pictures of herself naked is OK, then end up in porno's due to pursuing that career and all because she did it with her Mum when she was a young girl.

Now I am not saying there is anything wrong pursuing that type of career but many Mums do not want their daughters doing that and in this case may not realise where it could lead her daughter.

3Ring if I got that wrong, I am sure you will tell me :) VV

you got it right, actually . :)
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06-06-2008 07:25
From: Marcel Flatley
Will be a short visit though, in hour I leave work and go away for a weekend of... never mind, its gonna be fun ;)


have fun!!:)

From: Marcel Flatley
@Brenda: Funny thing is, that you are doing the same as the ones censoring... which shows how much we all are brainwashed.
Nudity has nothing to do with sex!!! I can pretty wel have sex with my clothes (partially) on, and I can pretty well look at a naked person without thinking about sex.

In fact, I think just as much about sex when looking at a dressed women, then at a naked women. Figure that one out :D


I agree completely, Marcel. A man wearing a great-fitting pair of jeans and a t-shirt, or a well-tailored suit, or...whatever...mmmm. :)