Forum Cartel V vs. Forum Hangout V!

FD - don't let the IMs stop you from enjoying the hangout, and please don't feel bad about how the project came together. If you really have the IMs and group notices, leave the group, but hang out at the hangout with us. It's not a popularity contest at the hangout, and if you want to just sit and listen, or whatever, you're welcome. If you go AFK, people might mess with your avatar a little, but it's just in good fun.

This project came together remarkable fast. From conception to beginning of the build was about a week and a half. The build took a week. The loose ends are being tied up this week. Oryx and I both poured over God knows how many offers, suggestions, a few demands, and hundreds of different ideas. I didn't actually count, but I alone probably received over 300 PMs here in the forums. I had to empty my inbox daily for about a week and it holds 75 messages. There was just no way we could use every single idea or offer. It had nothing to do with popularity and everything to do with sheer volume. It was like trying to get a drink of water out of a firehose for a couple days there.

Look - I'm not one of the cool kids here on the forums, and I have no skills at all in just about any meaningful area. Nevertheless, everyone has been very welcoming and open to me. You've actually done stuff to earn people's respect. You are clearly just as welcome as I am. Come on over. Give us a chance now that the build is mostly done. Look at how many people who were very sceptical in the beginning have changed their minds. Seriously, what is the absolute worst thing that can happen? You don't have fun and leave? Weigh that unlikely result against the other possibility, which is that you really enjoy yourself and get to know people better.

People already within them rarely do notice.

I had no clue there was that much going on behind the scenes Trout.
I am sorry I am just being a bit overly senstive artist or grumpy old fart take your pick.
LOL
I haven't been feeling very well and I am dealing with end of very stressful four year relationship ending right now.
Socializing isn't one of my strong suits. I am sort of clueless what to do if I am not doing something. LOL
Most of events because of how much I need to rest and been pretty preoccupied building a tiny 0.010m Avatar for a very tiny city and learn how to do SL texture projects I usually hear of after the fact.
How do I know what is happening if I am not a member?

Sometimes with this group it's easier to just barge your way into a conversation... I know that's hard to do, but seriously, this group talks SO much, sometimes it's hard to get a word in edgewise unless you come in swinging. Heck, I lurked on the Forums for a good two or three months before anyone even knew I existed, and even then, my posts were questions over in the Textures area.

When I think of "clique" I think of a group of people that is clannish and closed to new members. I know; I was always on the outside of them in high school. It was painful and humiliating. Cliques are mean and often unforgiving of outsiders. I would hope to God that The Forum Cartel is exactly the opposite. I'm just here to have a good time and meet new folks. Heck, as far as I'm concerned, it's more FUN to know more people!

Being a chronic outsider everywhere I am bit overly senstive to anything resemembling clique. I even dropped out of school because I just couldn't handle it. Heck I even dropped out of several communities in RL because of my senstivity to this.

I don't think of it quite that way - there is just a natural synergy between certain people and that is hard to penetrate when they are so caught up in their own conversation, that they don't really hear what others are saying. It adds a new dimension to "it's your world, we're just in it."

By the way, it was a pleasure to meet you (and Trout and Nika) last night.

Well, if you are not a member, you would miss the in-world messages, so you would have to check here or IM someone. You can IM me any time. The benefit, if there is one, is that it effectively stops you from receiving group IMs and notices, which is what I thought was bothering you. If those aren't a problem, stay a member of the group. I think there's a way to leave a group chat and have it not pop back up. They tend to throw me off as well, if I'm involved in something else, and I managed to shut one off by accident once.

I'm not suggesting that you, or anyone leave the group, BTW. I'm just saying that if group IMs are really something you don't like, you are still welcome at the hangout whether you are a menber or not. We also don't expect much in the way of social skills. Just hang out and whatever you say or don't say is cool. There have been some really interesting conversations.

On a personal note, I'm sorry to hear about your relationship. It's a rough spot to be in. Any support I can offer is yours.

It was great meeting you as well. I wish I'd had more time to hang out. Last night was hectic.

My self I run a business in SL, yet on Saturday I was both helping a friend rebuild her store....... I was at the hangout tweeking the club house... i built 5 new products and in the evening I did a 4 hour set DJing at Rebelz club. For me ... I cant access SL during the Day so all i really have is the forum, as much as it is ...its all i have till i get in world. For many this is true along with the varied times zones ... e.g Bilbo, Cherry and i are UK where Chris and Brenda are US and Nina is Aus. The one thing thats good is has made me get to know people who I have never really spoke to in the past.
People like Oryx and Malachi etc have become my friends .. I have been introducrd to different personalities with different views. Even though I own a store ... I get people who come in and dont want to talk ... they want to buy and leave. So for me its not clique at all.

I have put a lot of effort into making a club house... 3 times if i recall *lol*.. and to be honest FD i would LOVE to see your pie furniture. I certain hope fear doesnt ever play in the FC becasue if it does .. then we have failed....
Its a drop in center and even though people who dont come to the forum may never know about it...we hope that some might come because of word of mouth or just for the hell of it. As said earlier .... I think we all know that maybe group chat can be annoying and forum subjects can sometime get derailed but I think most of the time the people who post ... do so as indeviduals and dont comment as a collective.

Im sincerely sorry to those that feel that it isnt your scene .... becasue in IMHO the FC isnt a scene .... it has goreans...furries....Dreds(me).... even malachi in his robe and bare feet the FC isnt about a clique .... its about being different and comming together in something where you leave your FIRST LIFE and SECOND LIFE identities and just come as you are ... sit down .... join in or not.... or just come and throw a few prims on the floor its all about tolerence of others and I hope I speak for the rest of the FC when I say that if you feel excluded ... then come anyway it only takes that first step, if you hate it.. fair enough if you love it ....great but all we are trying to do is bring people together.. not excluded ourselves as some FIC...after all we are just people too

Yes, there are regulars that show up at the hangout and at the events. But I think I speak for Brenda as well as myself when I say this. We are open to everyone, everyone is welcome. I know some people may not care for one another. That is understandable in any group of this size. I know I try to greet and make welcome everyone who tps in, most everyone I have seen has done this as well. Yes names do get lost in the rapid movement of the chat box, but slights are never intentional.


As for the conversations we hold, like Oryx said, you just have to jump in. We do have lots of strong personalities in the group.

Likewise! I love putting faces to names.

And, yes, FD, I've dropped out of RL clubs (even ones that I PAY to join) because they've been too clique-ish. Sometimes I just feel like it's not worth the effort to try to break into their little gangs. I think, though, that even if you just come and sit, and toss in a few words now and then, you'll feel fine at the hangout. Yesterday I just sat in a chair and didn't talk to anyone for a long time because I was surfing the web, hehe. I just wanted to be around people, to know that there were other people on the planet, if you know what I mean.

I enjoyed my quick stay at the hang out, wish I could have stayed longer to meet more people. I also felt very welcome. They are a warm welcoming bunch of people!

There are regulars already?

Damn, I better hurry, get over there and claim my stool... if there are any left.

/me laughs!

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p.s FD .... if you want to show me your Pie furniture ... please knock me a TP over in a bit .. and I will come and take a looky .... but regardless of anything .. if you made it .. its welcome ........... just like you

We'll scrootch over to make room for you.

This was the only sentence I wanted to respond to. Sorry if some of the comments on this forum led you to believe that there is a sexual component to the club or hangout because there isn't. It's just silly and harmless banter.

As far as being cheerful, I am a cranky bastard most of the time and I am still welcome there.

If the group messaging is going to cause aggrivation, why not have two groups? One only used for official messages and one for group chit chat.

I get annoyed when banter is going on in group IMs when I am busy and find it a struggle to weed out the messages of those stood in front of me from those I haven't a clue who they are. It wouldn't be so bad if we could close the session and it stay that way.

Ok, I am not a member 'yet' as been too busy, someone stole my builder half way through and I still haven't got all the bits in my name yet

I don't know about at the hangout, but on the forum it is difficult for those not in the 'clique', their posts tend to be totally ignored while mindless banter ends up pushing it out.

BTW, I don't consider the group notices to be spam. No one is trying to make money here or sell anyone anything, which is what real spam is. These are notices so people know what is going on and that get togethers are happening. These notices will certainly be less frequent as time goes on and the dust settles.

And sometimes they only exists is a person's mind.

I don't think that's true. The majority of the posts currently on the front page are not by any of the 'regulars,' and I know most of us DO answer questions when we're able to. I'm not saying the posts won't wander off on a tangent later, but generally not until we've exhausted the original topic.

If you want to chat about it with someone who feels the same just let me know. Don't know if i can help you or you help me but at least we can have a bitch about it.

what was the topic?

Depends on the post.

Well at times it *can* seem like a thread that is not liked by certain members (because it's repetitive, or argumentative, or too serious in tone or what have you) is more or less deliberately derailed for that reason by a spam of posts about biplanes, pie, panties, sex and what have you .... which I can understand may seem quite annoying to other people who are posting and trying to have a conversation. I don't think it means that there is a "clique", but generally it is a consistent group who is engaged in that kind of one line spam of posts here.

If Chris and Colette can get along in this group and even become good friends as they are now, then ANYONE should feel welcome in this group.