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Wilhelm Neumann
Runs with Crayons
Join date: 20 Apr 2006
Posts: 2,204
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08-30-2007 19:21
Will I still be able to write for the Broadly Offensive Post if I don't accept the Mark of the Beast? ummm let me get back to you with that I have to consult with said beast  also I still need a full "body shot" of you and I promise I will send you a cutout of mine and you can throw darts at it and dont ask what I"m going to do with you next ... (also all minds outa the gutter but if you really want to put them there feel free ^^) _____________________
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Mickey James
Registered User
Join date: 4 Nov 2006
Posts: 334
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08-30-2007 20:17
So why is everyone bitching about giving up information that is publicly available. I didn't know SSN and pass port info was publicly available, Don't know about passports, but... http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/24/AR2005052401347_pf.html |
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Laura Lobo
Registered User
Join date: 8 Sep 2006
Posts: 79
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08-30-2007 20:22
Don't know about passports, but... http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/24/AR2005052401347_pf.html Thats not really the same thing. In order for this to work they have to have access to everyone's info not just what can be found in ways that article suggests. |
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Farallon Greyskin
Cranky Seal
Join date: 22 Jan 2006
Posts: 491
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08-30-2007 21:35
Thats not really the same thing. In order for this to work they have to have access to everyone's info not just what can be found in ways that article suggests. Don't know for sure but it is entirely possible that they have sought and won the right to query this infromation FROM the government (Such as DMV records or IRS/Voter records) in a real time lookup the exact same way that all law inforrcement does. Only of course they have to pay for it. Here is a non-SL example of this working. I never gave T-Moblile my SSN number but when trying to change account options they asked for my last 4 (already having my name and address) and they did a real time lookup on the phone to verify my identity before changing the plan options. Certainly T-Mobile does not have the SSN info on every person in the US. They are either using Aristiotle or getting the infor directly from the IRS through some sort of payed agreement. Who knows what they may be doing in other countries... |
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Jig Chippewa
Fine Young Cannibal
Join date: 30 Oct 2006
Posts: 5,150
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08-30-2007 21:45
I rarely come on to the Forums anymore because it is usually the same group of people decrying other avatars BUT I feel I must have my say here. I have NO intention of applying for age verification - providing information that potentially may jeaopardize my security or my country's security is just NOT going to happen.
But I think many people are missing the point - it is purely voluntary. I dont see how it is going to really affect me. My basement is full of pose balls which I have amassed for just such an occasion and I don't like kids hovering around me. Let's just see what happens. Most SLers couldnt really care less. And (referring to earlier comments) Canadians will ultimately rule in SL and the verification that is going to be required is "Do you know where Canada is?" _____________________
Fine Young Cannibal
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Roxi Bingyi
SL Music Association
Join date: 25 May 2007
Posts: 27
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Roxi Bingyi
08-30-2007 22:51
It's interesting how online porn sites only require a credit card for age ID, yet SL needs our SS# and the blood of our first born child. Why would SL be any different for age verification than your usual porn site? We aren't nearly as bad as some of those sites. I'm confused.
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JayDee Unknown
Registered User
Join date: 13 Nov 2005
Posts: 175
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08-31-2007 09:47
It's interesting how online porn sites only require a credit card for age ID, yet SL needs our SS# and the blood of our first born child. Why would SL be any different for age verification than your usual porn site? We aren't nearly as bad as some of those sites. I'm confused. Credit cards are not supposed ot be used for age check. You are comparing adult porn sites to SL? Adult porn sites could care less about you or your kids getting to their sites. General guidelines for accepting Visa Before you begin accepting Visa, be sure to follow these guidelines for merchants: All Visa accepting merchants have a responsibility to adhere to all federal and state laws. As it relates to accepting Visa products, merchants must accept Visa products for legal transactions only. Merchants that sell age-restricted products, such as alcohol and tobacco, must have in place processes and controls to ensure that all associated laws are honored. Merchants should be aware that possession of a Visa card or submission of Visa account information does not signify that the cardholder is of legal age to purchase age-restricted products. The issuance of Visa cards is not restricted to individuals over 18 years of age. http://usa.visa.com/merchants/new_acceptance/merchant_responsibility.html |
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Raymond Figtree
Gone, avi, gone
Join date: 17 May 2006
Posts: 6,256
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08-31-2007 09:56
I have NO intention of applying for age verification - providing information that potentially may jeaopardize my security or my country's security is just NOT going to happen. _____________________
Read or listen to some Eckhart Tolle. You won't regret it.
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Ciaran Laval
Mostly Harmless
Join date: 11 Mar 2007
Posts: 7,951
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08-31-2007 09:59
Credit cards are not supposed ot be used for age check. You are comparing adult porn sites to SL? Adult porn sites could care less about you or your kids getting to their sites. Porn is a massive industry on the interweb, of course they are bothered about who accesses their content. Oh and by the way, according the the UK passport service: "A passport is not an identity document although many organisations accept it as evidence of identity. If you present your passport as evidence of identity to obtain a service e.g. to open a bank account, we will confirm or otherwise that the details in the passport you present agree with the details on the Identity and Passport Service database. We will not disclose your personal details to the organisation requesting the check." As they are only asking for the number, it is in no way, no shape or no form a means of identity. |
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Ciaran Laval
Mostly Harmless
Join date: 11 Mar 2007
Posts: 7,951
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08-31-2007 10:01
You mean if I give them my driver's license #, my country's security will be threatened? I had no idea... It's actually a far more serious point than you may believe. This is why, in the UK anyway, the government are publishing all sorts of documents regarding identity theft. |
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Raymond Figtree
Gone, avi, gone
Join date: 17 May 2006
Posts: 6,256
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08-31-2007 10:04
It's actually a far more serious point than you may believe. This is why, in the UK anyway, the government are publishing all sorts of documents regarding identity theft. _____________________
Read or listen to some Eckhart Tolle. You won't regret it.
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Ciaran Laval
Mostly Harmless
Join date: 11 Mar 2007
Posts: 7,951
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08-31-2007 10:09
This may be true. One forged passport can be a bad thing in the wrong hands. I just don't buy into all the fear mongering that keeps a war for oil alive. Lol oh I agree with you there, the climate of fear to make us give up our civil liberties is something I oppose. |
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JayDee Unknown
Registered User
Join date: 13 Nov 2005
Posts: 175
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08-31-2007 10:33
Porn is a massive industry on the interweb, of course they are bothered about who accesses their content. Oh and by the way, according the the UK passport service: "A passport is not an identity document although many organisations accept it as evidence of identity. If you present your passport as evidence of identity to obtain a service e.g. to open a bank account, we will confirm or otherwise that the details in the passport you present agree with the details on the Identity and Passport Service database. We will not disclose your personal details to the organisation requesting the check." As they are only asking for the number, it is in no way, no shape or no form a means of identity. No they are not. If they were they would have a much more strict access system then a CC. They didn't even bother with age verification until there was a huge uproar about it. It is all about PR to them. If a passport is not a form of identity then what is it purpose? http://travel.state.gov/passport/passport_1738.html A passport is an internationally recognized travel document that verifies the identity and nationality of the bearer. A valid U.S. passport is required to enter and leave most foreign countries. Only the U.S. Department of State has the authority to grant, issue or verify United States passports. |
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Midnight Paragon
Registered User
Join date: 26 Oct 2006
Posts: 38
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08-31-2007 11:00
Q: How many SL residents crying about age verification does it take to screw in a light bulb?
How many threads about this do we actually need? <groan> |
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Ashlynn Dawn
Shopping addict
Join date: 1 Feb 2004
Posts: 508
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08-31-2007 11:01
Q: How many SL residents crying about age verification does it take to screw in a light bulb? How many threads about this do we actually need? <groan> If we have to start keeping track of light bulbs screwing, Im selling all my land and stuff and leaving SL for good.  _____________________
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Brenda Connolly
Un United Avatar
Join date: 10 Jan 2007
Posts: 25,000
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08-31-2007 11:04
Q: How many SL residents crying about age verification does it take to screw in a light bulb? How many threads about this do we actually need? <groan> About the same number who complain about complaining threads and complain about it in every one. Or 42, whichever is greater. _____________________
Don't you ever try to look behind my eyes. You don't want to know what they have seen.
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Har Fairweather
Registered User
Join date: 24 Jan 2007
Posts: 2,320
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08-31-2007 11:10
Q: How many SL residents crying about age verification does it take to screw in a light bulb? How many threads about this do we actually need? <groan> Just two, provided one of them has the building skills to make a large enough light bulb. |