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Colette Meiji
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Join date: 25 Mar 2005
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08-30-2007 08:38
i wonder what would happen if one tried registering an alt. i wonder, does it ask about age? you know when they do merge the adult and teen grids the announcement will come about 2 seconds before its a reality. Becuase they know it will be the Mother of all Backlashes. |
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Lucrezia Lamont
Neko Onmyoji
Join date: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 808
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08-30-2007 08:42
I have Concierge level and not been requested for age verification yet. They have my credit card info. I am Canadian. I'm also confused. It would also suck, quite frankly, if having given all this information already, owning the land I do, that I couldn't get age verified due to some glitch (i.e. our Canadian SINs screwing the works or whatever reason Canadians are having difficulty verifying).
*scratches furry ears* Well, I suppose I'll cross this bridge when it comes. Personally, I'm of a mind that with the information I've already disclosed to LL, they and the US Government can find out anything they want about me and really I don't care. While I'm all for protecting personal information, anyone can find out anything about anyone given the right tools and time. Any way... _____________________
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Victorria Paine
Sleepless in Wherever
Join date: 13 Jul 2007
Posts: 1,110
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08-30-2007 08:46
Sure sounded liek that was Dan L's eventual plan. -------------------------- Whats even more impressive? Were going to get Verification. The Ability to displayed Verified information. The merging of the Teen Grid and the Adult Grid. and the removal of the Disclosure clause. More fun than a barrel of rabid monkeys. Yep. This way the marketeers for Coke can actually do some real marketing, which requires having accessible and reliable information about to whom they are trying to market. It's a brilliant solution from LL's perspective really -- give the users of SL the "option" to share this information, and we know that many of them will just like we've been watching them do on MySpace and Facebook and the like all over the internet, and we at LL can get what we've been aching for: having a grid that is attractive to corporates, finally, and getting rid of these cute, well-meaning alternative reality people that our corporates are totally disinterested in. Really -- watch. This is where this is going. |
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Brenda Connolly
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Join date: 10 Jan 2007
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08-30-2007 08:49
Yep. This way the marketeers for Coke can actually do some real marketing, which requires having accessible and reliable information about to whom they are trying to market. It's a brilliant solution from LL's perspective really -- give the users of SL the "option" to share this information, and we know that many of them will just like we've been watching them do on MySpace and Facebook and the like all over the internet, and we at LL can get what we've been aching for: having a grid that is attractive to corporates, finally, and getting rid of these cute, well-meaning alternative reality people that our corporates are totally disinterested in. Really -- watch. This is where this is going. Not a bad assumption. Perhaps then all us cute well meaning alternate reality people should show we are as disinterested in them as they are in us and either pool our money and buy our own sims, or take it and go elsewhere. _____________________
Don't you ever try to look behind my eyes. You don't want to know what they have seen.
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Victorria Paine
Sleepless in Wherever
Join date: 13 Jul 2007
Posts: 1,110
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08-30-2007 08:59
Not a bad assumption. Perhaps then all us cute well meaning alternate reality people should show we are as disinterested in them as they are in us and either pool our money and buy our own sims, or take it and go elsewhere. True enough. I've taken the former route, but I'll reserve judgment on the latter depending on where this whole scheme actually ends up going as it gets more fully rolled out (ie, beyond the age verification, to nationality, location, etc.). |
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Ciaran Laval
Mostly Harmless
Join date: 11 Mar 2007
Posts: 7,951
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08-30-2007 09:53
I have Concierge level and not been requested for age verification yet. T. You should have received an email about it. You'll also find in your my account page that there is an "Age verification" link available, it's all voluntary of course  |
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Wildefire Walcott
Heartbreaking
Join date: 8 Nov 2005
Posts: 2,156
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08-30-2007 10:58
lol I love how everybody thinks their country has the most people in Second life. I get a kick out of it. Funny thing is... Most are wrong. Go look at the forums on here even. The ones with the most posts are Deutsches Forum / German Forum. It would appear you missed the point of Raymond's post. Anyway, most SLers don't read or use the forums, but you are right in that there are a heck of a lot of Germans in SL. The official population metrics are the best guide. As of June, the top 5 countries represented in SL were: USA, Germany, Brazil, U.K., and France. Brazilian membership on the main grid seems to have been exploding, despite the fact that there is actually an official Second Life Brazil- a totally separate, Portuguese-based grid. Full listing: http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pxbDc4B2FH97EelkdtADOAg&gid=7 _____________________
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Morwen Bunin
Everybody needs a hero!
Join date: 8 Dec 2005
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08-30-2007 11:01
Besides what's really going to hurt us is when all the Canadians leave. What percentage of SL players was US again? Morwen. |
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Carli Dancer
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Join date: 15 Aug 2006
Posts: 411
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Zeig Math
08-30-2007 12:16
What percentage of SL players was US again? Morwen. Depends on if you are asking the Germans or not. |
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Wilhelm Neumann
Runs with Crayons
Join date: 20 Apr 2006
Posts: 2,204
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08-30-2007 15:03
This was in reference to Canadian posters mentioning they could not get varified. Yup i know. Actually as of yet I have not entered a sim that needs it and one of them is owned by Canadians so I may not be particularly affected, but we do make up a very tiny slice of the SL population. I"m not sure why that is but we do. _____________________
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Sally Silvera
live music maniac
Join date: 17 Feb 2007
Posts: 2,325
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08-30-2007 15:06
totally OT, but .....
/me waves as Wilhelm: thanks for the mag..... great fun  IM's got capped so didn't reply, but will certainly 'dare' to ask questions again |
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Raynor Hammerer
Linguistic Rabbit
Join date: 21 Feb 2007
Posts: 404
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08-30-2007 15:12
Depends on if you are asking the Germans or not. Eh??? A German |
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Sensual Casanova
Spoiled Brat
Join date: 28 Feb 2004
Posts: 4,807
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08-30-2007 16:00
I was hoping this age verification thing died off, but guess not. The economy in here is tanking as is due to lots of reasons and now they are going to pull the plug on even more. Don't get me wrong I guess kids should not be in here but I have a strong feeling that alot of people in here are kids! Like it or not. And before anyone posts it, don't give me this "Its summer wait till winter and everything will be back to normal cause people are gone right now) junk. Its BS. People have left SL but not because its summer... ~Rant Complete~ I guess it could be worse... You can be spammed with unwanted group invites...  Oh wait... you already are doing that!  _____________________
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Alyx Sands
Mental Mentor Linguist
Join date: 17 Feb 2007
Posts: 2,432
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08-30-2007 16:02
Eh??? A German Blah woof. Besides, "the" Germans have their own forum (inofficial) which is definitely more lively than the German forum here. Not that I go there often, but I had a peek and saw lots of people posting. I don't post there because I'm not interested in any kind of German community. And I couldn't bloody care less who's got the longest...er, which country insists on dominating population counts. AND I'm fed up with people saying "the Germans brought age verification upon us" because of some stupid regional tabloid TV "report" and some even stupider "law experts" who came in yelling and screaming bloody murder because of said report. Thank you. _____________________
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Carli Dancer
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Join date: 15 Aug 2006
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08-30-2007 16:16
Eh??? A German Blah woof. Besides, "the" Germans have their own forum (inofficial) which is definitely more lively than the German forum here. Not that I go there often, but I had a peek and saw lots of people posting. I don't post there because I'm not interested in any kind of German community. And I couldn't bloody care less who's got the longest...er, which country insists on dominating population counts. AND I'm fed up with people saying "the Germans brought age verification upon us" because of some stupid regional tabloid TV "report" and some even stupider "law experts" who came in yelling and screaming bloody murder because of said report. Thank you. When the Age Play stuff broke - there were quite a few posters claiming that German SL'rs outnumbered United States SL'rs Thus LL should ban Age Play becuase of german law. Since it was German posters saying it and pointing to a European article claiming it was so, apperently the answer to : What percentage of SL players was US again? Morwen. is; depends on who you ask, particularily the germans. Okay just some of the forums going germans. Its all related becuase Age/Identity verification WAS moved ahead quite a bit on the LL agenda becuase of the German newsmagazine Ageplay report. |
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Pratyeka Muromachi
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08-30-2007 16:54
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JayDee Unknown
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Join date: 13 Nov 2005
Posts: 175
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08-30-2007 17:02
From the Key Metrics. http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pxbDc4B2FH96kmmllbXG0Ew&gid=7
country Active Avatar Count % of Avatar Count Total Hours % of Total Hrs United States 149055 26.55 % 8,187,642.35 34.88 % Brazil 48023 8.55 % 1,017,209.50 4.33 % Japan 44847 7.99 % 1,563,899.40 6.66 % Germany 44483 7.92 % 2,503,213.83 10.66 % United Kingdom 38876 6.92 % 1,535,157.83 6.54 % France 31723 5.65 % 1,448,079.02 6.17 % Italy 28415 5.06 % 924,507.75 3.94 % Netherlands 18807 3.35 % 1,107,901.13 4.72 % Spain 18589 3.31 % 821,898.82 3.50 % Canada 17615 3.14 % |
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Raynor Hammerer
Linguistic Rabbit
Join date: 21 Feb 2007
Posts: 404
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08-30-2007 17:04
When the Age Play stuff broke - there were quite a few posters claiming that German SL'rs outnumbered United States SL'rs Thus LL should ban Age Play becuase of german law. Since it was German posters saying it and pointing to a European article claiming it was so, apperently the answer to : Ah, I get it: a needless barb. Like Alyx said: Thank you very much. |
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JayDee Unknown
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Join date: 13 Nov 2005
Posts: 175
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08-30-2007 17:05
In order for them to verify our information they already have to know our information. So the better question is how is Aristotle getting our information to verify what we give them? If they already have the information then there is no point complaining about giving up your information to them being they already have it or have access to it....
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Ciaran Laval
Mostly Harmless
Join date: 11 Mar 2007
Posts: 7,951
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08-30-2007 17:12
In order for them to verify our information they already have to know our information. So the better question is how is Aristotle getting our information to verify what we give them? If they already have the information then there is no point complaining about giving up your information to them being they already have it or have access to it.... This is something I've contacted the UK Passport office and driving licence authority about. |
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Raymond Figtree
Gone, avi, gone
Join date: 17 May 2006
Posts: 6,256
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08-30-2007 17:13
In before the lock, which I hope comes soon...
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Wilhelm Neumann
Runs with Crayons
Join date: 20 Apr 2006
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08-30-2007 17:16
totally OT, but ..... /me waves as Wilhelm: thanks for the mag..... great fun IM's got capped so didn't reply, but will certainly 'dare' to ask questions again haha okay well I have to work my brain around it again but feel free to send questions because as of yet I have not heard of anyone sending any to myself or Brenda ^^ and your welcome  _____________________
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Mickey James
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Join date: 4 Nov 2006
Posts: 334
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08-30-2007 18:02
In order for them to verify our information they already have to know our information. So the better question is how is Aristotle getting our information to verify what we give them? If they already have the information then there is no point complaining about giving up your information to them being they already have it or have access to it.... That was answered in the LL blog entry. • How does it work? Residents will provide a few simple details about their identity – generally, name, date of birth, and address. Additionally, Residents will be asked to provide specific identifying information, such as, for example, a driver’s license number, passport or national ID card number, or the last four digits of a social security number (this is dependent on where geographically the Resident is based). This is then cross-checked against pre-existing databases of public record, to verify relevant aspects of a Resident’s identity. It's just basic cross-indexing. |
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Brenda Connolly
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Join date: 10 Jan 2007
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08-30-2007 18:50
haha okay well I have to work my brain around it again but feel free to send questions because as of yet I have not heard of anyone sending any to myself or Brenda ^^ and your welcome Will I still be able to write for the Broadly Offensive Post if I don't accept the Mark of the Beast? _____________________
Don't you ever try to look behind my eyes. You don't want to know what they have seen.
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Laura Lobo
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Join date: 8 Sep 2006
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08-30-2007 19:04
That was answered in the LL blog entry. It's just basic cross-indexing. So why is everyone bitching about giving up information that is publicly available. I didn't know SSN and pass port info was publicly available, |
