Can I have Permission to Shoot Hubbies Heheheing

Hmmm I think this has been taken too seriously.

No, what you see is that people are finally fed up and speaking out. Nothing more, nothing less.

Wow, you're always interested in people's reactions. Maybe THESE reactions are telling you something. STOP THE INANE THREADS. Many, especially this one, are mean-hearted, overly critical, and ignorant of basic human social interaction. Go take Psych 101 if you care that much.

And BTW, it's "avatar," for crying out loud, not "avitar."

Here's the Merriam Webster reference:

http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/avatar

LOL!

Jig, I can tell that you are a kind, resilient and lighthearted person. I am sorry I came down so hard on you. But it just got to be too much.

Please know I am attacking the action of starting too many general threads and not you personally and I hope you stick around the forum but only start threads if they are truly appropriate here.

Actually, you're right. That's more the context in which I use it. "My hubby". Not something I say to him directly.

For some odd reason, when I saw the thread title, I asked myself "Who the hell is "Hubbies Heheheing" and why does Jig want this person dead?"

It's just like deja vu.

Jig, listen to Raymond on this one.

It aint funny anymore.

No, honestly.....it really aint.

I just figured out how to mute!!!

/me claps her hands!!!! "Whoooo hoooo, hee hee"

Why it's ok to start a thread with this post:

but wrong to start this thread is hard to grasp.

Folks ask repeatedly for a "general discussion" forum. LL is giving them one. It doesn't make a good support forum or a good chatroom.

Forums.secondlife.com isn't the only spot on the internet that SL residents can chat in a forum.

Forum regulars that plan, promote, and review their group's events in this forum, and advertise their group's member's businesses are not in much position to complain about others breaking the forum content rules.

Not rocket science here.....next time a troll starts another thread like this, if they check back and continuously see zero replies.....next day - zero replies - guaranteed - they *will* get bored *real* fast.

Give it a try.

Easy to answer: Repetition.

I wasn't real thrilled with that thread being started myself. I must admit it seemed like the pot calling the kettle.... On the other hand, one thing I can say about Raymond is that he is one of the most helpful people in the forums. It is very rare to see a ridiculous thread created by him.

This was not Jig's first thread. There were days that I know of that at least six threads were created, none of which applied to the terms of the forums. Yet, as you can see it finally reached the point that numerous people became upset enough that they finally felt the need to say something. It really had reached the point of absurdity.

These forums never were squeaky clean, Suezanne, and probably never will be, but some self restraint needs to be made. We all may screw up from time to time, but that's far different than a "consistent", gross and blatant disregard for the forum guidelines.

Consistant.. gross.. blatant disregard....
Ooooh you mean the 2 MONTHS we had to read about pie.. or was it trout ratings? Or was it...
Ahh, I can't remember, there's been so many

I think you'd find it rare that there was not a legitimate question asked in those threads which was answered before they were derailed and went off into silliness. The question has been raised before whether that should be considered abuse or not and it's a legitimate question. It's a different question, however, than creating worthless threads to begin with, in which a person is not seeking legitimate assistance with help in SL.

Sluniverse.com is easy to get to. It's got great graphics and lots of nice shinys. It's all about people going into rants of every which way and kind they want. So I don't see what the issue is. Go debate muffins versus scones. They'll welcome with open arms. This is Resident Answers.

Do some people remember Second Citizen?
It was a fun, everything goes, mostly unmoderated forum and felt like a haven of freedom for some. But some individuals couldn't handle that freedom.
Second Citizen eventually got destroyed by those individuals that couldn't control themselves.

Please show some restraint now, even if it's just to prevent things from eventually spinning out of control later. Because I would miss this place...

And be assured this is my first and last post on this.

Me too.

What's the problem with repeatedly making posts that don't violate the rules?

The forum's purpose is pretty clear. It's supposed to be used for support questions, requests for help. Help specifically with using the Second Life virtual world. Questions about how to use Second Life, and answers to such questions, are the only content that is in accord with the rules for the Resident Answers forum.

I've been reading forums.secondlife.com for hours a day most every day for over four years. The forum now is quite bland compared to the old days.

It's funny to see people asking for enforcement of rules they don't make any attempt to follow and offer implausible rationalizations for why their violation of rules is ok but other people's aren't ok.

It's odd that people express concern over off topic threads in RA but say nothing about insults made in other forums such a the technical forums where people's intelligence is insulted when they display lack of knowledge of computer stuff.

It's also interesting that people expressing concerns specifically targeted toward one individual, meaningful to just that one person, and not concerned with Second Life don't realize that they are violating the forum guidelines. Private disputes should be held in private. Post in appropriate places for appropriate reasons. Those are ideas in the forum guidelines. Folks that want a particular person to change their posting style should be expressing their concerns in private, not in the forums. That's personal matters, not questions about how to use Second Life or answers to such a question.

You know what D.H.Lawrence said about letters? They are like a good sneeze. You've all been sneezing today.
For God's sake, lighten up!
There's plenty of space for everybody. Including me.

I see a difference between some silly banter in a thread after the initial answer to the OP's question has been given and threads that are out of place and inappropriate right from the start. Especially those that are started at a rate of a half a dozen a day.

And you don't HAVE to read about any of that stuff. Unless you are confined to your seat in some sort of Clockwork Orange scenario. Hey come to think of it, I don't have to read any offending threads either. I just have to sidestep them on the front page here. Sounds like a plan.

I started that thread as an commentary on the rediculousness of the general discussion topic threads being started by JC. Since she had been asked directly to stop posting those types of threads, but continued, I tried a different tack. It was too subtle a way to go and her random musings threads continued. So I changed my communication in this thread to be more direct. A bunch of other folk expressed their disapproval as well, many of whom I've never seen promote any event or business. Time will tell if it has any effect. And at this point, I could give a fuck and won't be trying to control anyone from here on out, since it serves no purpose and doesn't work anyway.

As for promoting events here that make new members feel more at home, I'm all for them. Advertising in sigs is done by many too, including Desmond. I don't think either of those things are as detrimental to this forum as the barrage of inappropriate threads in the last week.

The rules for this forum have clearly been abandoned but they are still available for reading.


This Resident Answer forum is for questions about Second Life such as "
"ways to earn L$, land management tips, and newcomer questions if you're new to Second Life". Those are examples from the RA sticky at the top of the list of posts.

This isn't a place for advertising:

"Post in appropriate places, for appropriate reasons – The forums are split into separate topics. Please do not post discussions into forums that are clearly designed for other discussions." (from the Forum Guidelines)

"Advertising - Advertising is not allowed on the forums. " (from the Forum Guidelines)

There are forums for advertising events (Special Attractions) and products (various).

This isn't the " parody other user's posting style" forum. Disputes between users should be done elsewhere. That's in the Forum Guidelines: "Private discussions – the forums are a public area for the Second Life community’s use. Individuals who have a dispute with each other have other channels of communication to discuss their differences or communicate – private messaging, IM within Second Life, or chatting within Second Life."

The forums are a PG part of the service, as is entire secondlife.com site except as specifically designated otherwise. Your "I could give a fuck" violates the strong expletives clause for PG language content in the Big Six in the Community Standards.

It's funny reading people say it's wrong for the other guy to break the rules but it's ok when I do it.

Signature ads don't bump threads.

This forums is pretty sorry of late. Posting rules and not enforcing them doesn't make for a very good forum. It's not being nearly as effective for helping people use Second Life as a properly moderated forum would be. However, the cost/benefit ratio may be highest with this current system, which allocates minimal resources to paid moderators. The forum may suck but it doesn't cost much. From a cost benefit point of view, it's more effective to spend money on systems that broadcast information to a large number of people, such as the knowledgebase and Torley's videos and such, which LL has been doing a much better job of than it used to. There's a wiki for providing information to users, which is in fact chock full of all sorts of useful information, and is Google searchable. For making suggestions and reporting problems there's the jira system, which has a system for assigning responsibility for issues to specific employees, which forums lack.

The content creation forums are useful primarily because people tend to stick to asking on-topic questions and providing on-topic responses in them. There aren't so many folks trying to use the content creation forums as chatrooms for idle chatter or to fill empty time in the content creation forums.

I've spent so much time in these forums for the past four years I don't know what I would do without them, but I guess it would be like quitting smoking : you might think that not using them will make you explode or something , but in truth nothing actually happens, and time continues to pass. That might be what people need to do when the forums aggravate them, instead of engaging in disputes with other users, stop using the forums as a chatroom, don't even look at them. Time will continue to pass, one's food will continue to digest without using forums.secondlife.com as a chatroom.

I have two computers and two monitors right next to each other. Second Life is in the background on one, hasn't been looked at for a few hours.

A more recent timekilling thing of interest is on the other monitor, I got a free webhost site that offers wordpress, mambo, joomla, and other such things. I'm ignoring that too, reading the forums and writing this long pointless post at 3:33 am.

Enough.

Agreed.
*Moved my reply to a PM out of respect for forum rules.*

Then please, explain to all how hiding the mental drool inside someone else's legitimate thread is in ANY way less of a rules violation than a purely OT thread one can easily skip...

What happens when one searches for a topic that people have derailed early and smothered? You wade through pages of mindless non-SL related crap to either find a post with the answer in it, or to find that nobody with the answer has replied. Doesn't matter, one STILL has to wade through the garbage to know if the answer's in there. TEN TIMES more wasted time than merely rolling your eyes and NOT going into a thread.



Considering your familiarity with the place, and having read your overly hostile replies in these threads of late, I'd suggest you go BACK there where that kind of flamery is welcome. This is Resident Answers.

I didn't take the original post as being mean spirited at all. Just sounded like friendly conversation from someone who felt they could speak their mind among friends. The lovey-dovey types can get on my nerves too! But only in a light hearted way, I don't think Jig meant for her comments to be taken so seriously. I read these message forums a lot but I see this sort of thing and I'm afraid to do much posting here.