Cheating camp chairs?

Somewhat off topic:
What are some of the most creative camping chairs / scenes / animations people have seen in SL?

I ask, as I love to see what people can come up with - walking into a place with people simply sitting in a camp chair is so horribly boring...

To date, my favorite is the gallows camping chairs at DeathDealerz mall (sp?)...a noose, for one to "hang around" in...


Strangely, I do not believe I've ever used a camping chair of any variety...

i remember some floating chairs in a sky casino once. they looked pretty neat.

i enjoyed seeing the graves spots, before that mall closed up. jsut feet sticking out of a dirt mound with a tombstone. cute.

the other day i was looking for goth and ended up in some sort of devilish place where people were stuck in stakes, hanging off meanthooks by their necks, and other freaky things.

i know i accidentally TP'd into a sexpit where they had people using a wacky looking masturbation machine thingy for L$, which was rather gross. some of those contraptions are hard to figure out just what they might do, and look like they belong on the set of the chainsaw massacre. LOL

Ok so you don't have to pay into a camping chair. But how do we know whats got the green light anymore these days. Linden Lab is so vague with how they explain this policy. I've seen a few camping chairs that choose not to pay out unless you are using a gambling device such as a slot machine though. I guess those particular ones are banned but not the others. So i guess a sploder could be legal if you don't have to pay into it? Which means they couldn't give money but you could put clothing and prizes in it.

I've seen some camping animations that have the people painting the walls or scrubbing the floors. Always thought those were pretty clever. I've also seen zombie avatars working as mannequins in clothing stores, though it's more likely those are employees of the store since they had to somehow receive the outfit they're modeling and be trusted to have it on.

I don't think so.

Why next, they would be autobanning someone just for giving gifts of money to other people!

Oh wait, they already do that.

coco

hehe thats just icky programming and I"m sure they will fix it (eventually). The "autonanny" was told to look for money going out but not if money is going in from where its going out to.. (errm well it makes sense to me that sentance not sure if it will to anyone else though )

I think all of you that say you are against camping that if you had no payment on file...you to would camp to earn lindens, not everyone can afford to have payment on file ya know and I think it is a good thing that some try to help others by allowing camping in their stores and plus they know some of those camping will more than likely buy something in their store eventually...I know I do just to show my appreciation.

I don't sit at my computer all the time, actually most of the time I am camping while I sleep or work in RL.

I dont see any reason that camping chairs would fall under gambline. There's no risk, no chance... etc.

But then again... I dont quite understand camping to begin with so..

Wagering in SL, as defined by LL;
1) User must pay into "game"/object.
2) Random number generation for results.
3) User is paid in something of value (usually L$ but could also be Transferable items). NoTrans items do not fall into this catagory as they can not be sold.

Quite easily defined. Sploders are illegal because they meet all three catagories. Campin chairs only meet the last one so are not illegal.



A Money Ball (basically a sploder that you don't have to pay into to win, just be there) is legal. It only falls into the last two catagories.

To be "wagering", the subject in question must meet all three criteria.

~Jessy

Hi Sheena,
I actually don't have a problem with the campers. If they want to camp, it's their own business. What I'm not so sure about is the people who own the camp chairs and use them to inflate their traffic figures. I completely understand about camping. Did it as a newbie, myself.

GUYS PLEASE! There are plenty of threads debating the pros and cons (most cons) of camping. Can we please either address the OP's question or else just go elsewhere? Sure, I hate campers as much as you do, but the endless repetition of the arguments is boring and distracting.

To answer the OP's questions, this must be bugs in the camp chairs or else in SL itself, that the bot is exploiting.

A bot shouldn't be able to eject a sitter, even if push is enabled. File an AR report if you see this, in any case.

Remember, bots can't do anything that normal avs can do, except that they can do them much faster. So, it might exploit a bug in the camp chairs by sitting, standing, and sitting again very quickly (or something like that). Discuss this with the camp chair maker, and consider trying a competing product.

Meanwhile, if the camp chairs are paying out faster than possible based on their configuration, just stop using them, because they're broken!

Note: any business customer who puts a new object in service should carefully watch their transaction history and make sure the objects are doing what they're advertised to do. As a scripter of commercial products I know there are easy mistakes that can make them behave correctly, and it would only take a little imagination on the part of a devious mind to think of ways to cheat the customers.

The most common mistake I've seen is mishandling "change": not accumulating fractional $L correctly. Fortunately, that's not a terribly costly one. The owner is usually the beneficiary.

Back when I first joined SL, I ... erm ... a friend yeah that's it ... got booted from a camp chair. They used an anti-griefing device on me, which caused me to get logged off somehow AND taught me that any anti-griefing tool is essentially a griefing tool!

BTW - I AR'd the guy and he was booted, primarily because he apparently solicited 100L from avs to boot unsuspecting avs (like me) from the chairs. The device that he used was available on SLex and sent 100's of textures to you, capping your IMs and causing me to have to click hundreds of times on that dang "x". Let me tell you, my frustration wasn't dampened by all of that clicking...

Thankfully I am over those camping days.

I'd consider camp chairs gambling. You don't put in L$, per se, but you put in time, which is at least as valuable as L$. As for the random payout, when you stand up, maybe you'll get paid, maybe you won't.

How do you find out?

Rez a few items, leave them, wait to see if they get deleted and/or you get banned.

Simple.

LOL! My time is worth about L$1073/10 minutes. If someone wants to pay me that for camping, heck I'll do it.

That's what I do sometimes. I'll park at one and do something else on the computer like working on my spreadsheet or something. But I want something bad enough, I'll Paypal for some $L.

Sometimes a camp place the sitters will have a convo. I went into one area and they were chatting up a storm, Didn't realise there was camp chairs until another person said "sit down and make a few L$ while shooting the bull."

Do you wonder that newbies camp? when you don't get paid ( f.i dancers, they only get tips) or you get paid 20 LINDENS an HOUR to work as a host ( as I did, yes I quit after a while) , camping will never go away, it's more relaxing and you get more!

L$ 20.... per hour....? To WORK?

i llove this. 'specially for bit parts in machinima. Ambiance. Cool!!!

I have got something worth visiting. People visit it, and tend to come back if they think they will be alone there. Great for people wanting some quiet romantic space but not good for traffic!!!!!!!

SL is a damned sight bigger than it used to be, it ain't so easy any more to get traffic unless you are advertising with money or nudity or poseball hopping ...

Well said. I seccumbed to a bit of camping but I made a nice little square which matches the Rothenburg mall, has nice gaslamp lighting a fountain and is surrounded by Heart trees, sea and green land with pretty views, at least.

yes...sad, isn't it? no wonder I quit after 2 weeks...and you would be surprised to know how many jobs are so bad paid!

If you meant THOSE camping chairs, then I completely understand why you called it gambling lol.

hehe. this means that people can bring slot machines, poker, and roulette tables back if you don't have to pay. XD I guess it would be like a free money deal. lol