Cheating camp chairs?

Hi guys!

I have about 5 camp chairs at my land. And it's something very strange going on. The camp chairs are not comissioned, never give me problems. But about 5 days ago I'm watching that have some bots visiting my land, and some just can receive more money that was set up at the camp chair!

An example: tha chairs there pays 5 L$ / 30 minutes... some bots are earning 5 L$ at a period like 5 minutes. It's absolutely crazy.

Someone know something about this?

Thanks.

*coughs* Not a good place to advertise that your using paying camp chairs. Not that the lindens look here anyway but still.

To answer though, i don't know much about bots but from my experiences with them in the past almost anything is possible if the server code allows it. It's a obvious exploit their using. Perhaps someone else could have a better answer though.

Sorry, I didn't understand... I'm not doing anything wrong, I'm using normal camping chairs... that's a wrong thing?

Remove the camping chairs. Gain traffic by having something worth visiting. Problem solved.

Camping chairs are still totally legal, as far as I'm aware - there's no wager taking place, and the camper is simply getting paid for his/her time.

I have seen an instance of this, where a chair paying $2 every 10 minutes suddenly started paying $2 every 10 seconds. The owner was on to it pretty quickly and disabled the chairs, then re-set them - he seemed to think it was a bug. However, I think the advice to contact the maker is sound - good luck!

It's definitely possible to see someone fool a chair into not knowing that they've stood up. Other than that, I don't know. I would bet against the possibility of a single chair being tricked into paying out at a faster than intended rate. So maybe you've got more than one chair paying the same bot.

That is not all thats going on with camp chairs. There is someone going around ejecting people out of their seats and taking their camping spot but what I don't get it how can they do this in a no push zone? I have mysti tool and I couldn't even eject him. Very frustrating to say the least but he was reported to the sim owner and she banned him from the sim but he will still go other places and use whatever tool he has.

I know we are not allowed to post names but if anyone is interested I do know the dudes name so you can watch out for him, those with stores and camping chairs because there is no telling whatelse he can do to screw someones day up.

From what i gather, camping chairs qualify as material that fits in the the gambling scene. I will leave it to you to discover though... I mean heck if sploders are getting people banned i don't see why this isn't.

Hmmm, camp chairs fit in any "scene" that requires artificially inflated traffic numbers.

There is no consideration paid to sit on a camping chair or dance paid, so there is no wager involved.

All you have to do is sit, and you are going to receive a few L$

Max

I wish... if everybody do it... that's my dream...

I agree that it would be so much better if all camp chairs was banned from SL. But if doesn't, and most people are using it, these force who needs to have a good "traffic" stats to use it.

Not to get "good traffic", but to try to get the places that have with it.

gambling = someone pays money on the off chance they wil win something

camping chairs = some guy sits there for free

two different things

sploders are clearly in the realm of gambling they pay money into a pot and a winner is picked at random (this is the consideration part) this is in fact gambling.

Camping chairs are not gambling devices they just happened to be used in many casinos for some reason but they are seen all over the place. There is no chance involved you sit down on the thing and after a certain amount of time you are given money and its consistent or supposed to be unless there is a bug or its broken or something. There is no chance or random numbers. Its actually defined as "a job" not gambling

ok ... lets be realistic ...

for a start leave the poor soul alone...

Look at the traffic figures and how they REALLLLLLY come about.
I VERY rarely see ANY event or attraction that has high visitor rates so the average count would be about maybe 1000.

Yet a LOT of what I see in the land figures are well above 10 - 20k PER DAY!!!!!!, but you go there and its an empty mall.
So in reality its the rich providing for the not so rich and if that means its tough then fair enough. I know ive worked bloody hard to get my figures up and yes I have a money tree but that doesnt count for a whole heap.

If we get rid of camping then we should ALSO close the doors on free accounts because in a lartge percent of time they go hand in hand... ohh and lets close the alts down too as they camp dont they...
The whole system gets gamed becasue .... ITS A GAME!!!!!!! or a platform depending on how you want to look at it. I agree camping isnt great but it exists.

Just an example.....

Last night I was bored ... so i thought I would look at "popular places" and yes it was all the camping areas. So I went to one "welfare" place and stood on the counter and started to give out money to the LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG line of AV's stood in a cue waiting to get thier "welfare" I gave out about L$500 to people ... and started flying up and down the line giving out money.
There wasnt a catch ....... there wasnt any dwell or traffic count....not for me anyway
But I saw it as fun ....yet there was people there asking for 100, 200 ,500 of course thats ridiculous.
Bottom line is there are LOTS or free players who dont want to invest into SL and they NEED to recieve some way of getting money.... now if people arnt going to GIVE money away they they WILL employ... to sit in a chair for 2/10 etc.

Everybody ask yourselves ....

"what have I done to help a noob?"
"What can I do to get rid of campers?".

Camping DOES help the economy, but it does become addictive and isnt sociable etc but then again the AV's camping mostly have no controller, as the PERSON is off with a different AV doing fun stuff with the money recieved from thier "Camping Ho".

Personally I havent camped in a while now and would rather spend my time building and see camping as rather distastfull and a waist of time BUT for some .... its all they have

With sploders, you have to pay in, with only a chance of getting something of value. With camping, you aren't paying anything, therefor what are you gambling? You get paid to sit or stand on a parcel. To me, that seems more like a crappy job than gambling.
I'm just not sure I see where you are coming from, why you would think that.

So, the complaint is that people are gaming your system to game the traffic system?

hahaha now THAT is a fair comment ... *lol*

the traffic system isnt a fair system ..but what would be a fair system ....this seems to work just about as much as any other system would .. and at least people are earning some money to go and spend in other shops in sl .... one crap system financing another crap system .. they seem to suit each other imho

Yea... if the Lindens were interested in eradicating camping establishments, they would just open up Search and click the Popular Places tab... then keep deleting until it showed a place that didn't have camping chairs, I guess

besides the point of camping chairs, what annoys me more is that everyone just drops a pad and that`s it, why not be creative to make the place actually look attractive?

window washes
gardners cutting the lawn
gardners watering plants/trees/lawn
jenitors mobbing the floor
greeters wich wave or make a small bow using a script to greet ppl
heck, trash collectors emptying cans
add what ever to the list...

this wil still be camping zone wich i don`t like going to but it won`t look and feel that empty and actually add to the picture instead of a few zombies in a skybox

i use camping chairs occasionally. sometimes i want free L$ when i want to buy something not real expensive, but not wanting it so bad that i'd take cash from my cc.

i usually use the camping chair of the place i intend to shop.

I guess I just don't have very much patience...I'd rather take money out of my CC than sit there for hours to earn money. My time in SL is for fun, not tedium. At any rate, I don't begrudge campers, but I do sort of feel that it's tacky to run up your parcel's numbers using camping chairs. That's ONLY my opinion, and I'm sure other people feel differently!

At any rate, no, camping chairs are not illegal. And to the OP; I'd heard of someone gaming a friend's camping chair. She just deleted it and got a new one out of her inventory, and everything seemed to be fine. And... pssst... I think the going rate for camping is L$2/10 minutes or thereabouts (I've seen it as high as L$10/15 minutes.) You might get more real campers and less bots if you pay out just a little more? Dunno, but it's worth a try.

to be fair, i am not typically sitting there watching it sitting there. i do it when i can leave my puter on, but have to run out or something. why not? yup. i'm one of those.

lol. That is only the camping chairs that we're directly attached and activated by slot machines. And who has been banned for a Sploder? I know there have been removals, but I have yet to hear of a ban.

Camping chairs aren't even close to breaking the rules.

gambling is paying money into in hopes of getting some or more back out of.....

camping is just the boss paying someone to build traffic..... a very lame job.