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Chris Norse
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05-19-2009 09:46
From: LittleMe Jewell
An expansion on this that directly relates to SL -- learn to be descriptive in your texting and mix it up. Describe every aspect of that kiss..... every detail of that touch.


I prefer to use broader strokes. To give suggestions and let your mind fill in the fine details. But I do use more than "mmm" and "Oh baby".
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Lindal Kidd
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05-19-2009 09:49
From: Vance Adder
... Just be a confident, interesting person that someone likes to be around, and most of all, be honest and straight-forward.


This.

This is why our Forum Gentlemen are so much fun. They almost invariably fall into this category.
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Deira Llanfair
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05-19-2009 09:51
Chris, I think you missed out the most important thing - authenticity.

Any feeling of being fake, or putting on an act is a complete put-off (IMO).
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05-19-2009 09:54
From: Ephraim Kappler
I'd never try to tease a woman: the types I tend to go for would likely tear a lump out of me.

Joking is another thing altogether. It's a real bonus when a gal with anger-management issues laughs. Sense of achievement there.


LOL

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Chris Norse
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05-19-2009 10:05
From: Deira Llanfair
Chris, I think you missed out the most important thing - authenticity.

Any feeling of being fake, or putting on an act is a complete put-off (IMO).



I didn't write it. Just found it in my daily wanderings along the net and thought it would make a fun thread. I haven't given any comments on the advice in the article other than to pass it along.
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Czari Zenovka
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05-19-2009 10:10
From: someone
BE UNPREDICTABLE
Women love wondering what’s next. But most guys are painfully predictable. Don’t ASK her where she wants to go for dinner. Instead, TELL her see you at 8. If she’s curious, say “It’s a surprise.” Take her to an unusual place. Even if it’s a hole-in-the-wall dhaba, she’ll love it more than a fancy eatery, simply because of the anticipation.


Not sure I'd call this unpredictable as much as taking the lead (discussed below) but I appreciate this greatly. When my now-former SL partner was first dating me, he always had a place he had checked out earlier to take me to. I loved that.

Two years later it turned into "So what should we do tonight?" After two years that's to be expected, but I had numerous discussions on enjoying being surprised like in the beginning of our relationship. Answer: "I'm not good at that." Errr, he used to be. :mad:

From: someone
GET PHYSICAL, EARLY


Depends how physical/how early. Being from another generation I don't kiss on the first or maybe even second or third date. That was something different from the other women my FP (former partner) had encountered and intrigued him about me.

From: someone
LEAD, DON’T FOLLOW
Many guys, while interacting with a woman, give her all their power. While planning an evening out, he’ll ask her what she wants to do. If she suggests a movie, he’ll give her a list of movies to choose from and so on. Not good. Women like men who take decisions and take the lead.


YES, YES, YES!!!! Even though I'm quite independent and can be headstrong, I adore a man who takes the lead. Honestly, I think this is one of the "draws" for *some* women in D/s. I could get on my soapbox about Women's Lib forever, but let's just say I was a teenager during that transitional time and, while it had its good points (ie. equal pay for equal work - opening jobs traditionally held by men to women, etc.) the more radical elements "I don't need a man to hold a door open for me" (which used to be common courtesy) got a lot of guys confused, which led to a trickle down effect in future generations.

Anyway, I like a man who takes the lead and doesn't wait for me to make all the decisions.

From: someone
DON’T EASE THE TENSION


Keeping some tension going is exciting.


From: someone
LEARN HOW TO BE A GREAT KISSER
Women can tell from the way a man kisses how he will be in bed. Here’s a tip: Don’t be like most guys who kiss while they’re scheming to get to the main destination, sex. For a good kisser, the kiss is the destination itself; he kisses as if he wants to enjoy every moment of it. Women can tell the difference.


DEFINITELY! And sometimes...a session of great kissing/cuddling can be even more satisfying (for me at least) than sex. This is dependent on a lot variables, however.


From: someone
HAVE A LIFE!

Women don’t like men who follow them like Mary’s little lamb. Women, especially quality women, want a man who is on HIS path, following HIS passions. Have a busy life with interesting activities that bring a smile to YOUR face and it will automatically attract people (including women) to you. Don’t chase women, attract them.[/QUOTE]

And I would add the reverse corollary to women. Again, likely a generational thing, but I was brought up to never chase men. Giving cues that we were interested was ok, but never things like asking a guy to dance, go on a date, or even calling them. (There's a really great article I clipped out of a newspaper years ago that I need to find - I think it may have been based on a book called "The Language of the Fan" or something. Centuries ago when women REALLY couldn't do anything that would be considered "too forward", there was an entire language of how a lady held a fan when looking at a gentleman at a social gathering that would give him non-verbal cues.)

Great post, Chris!
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Lewis Luminos
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05-19-2009 10:38
From: Czari Zenovka
When my now-former SL partner was first dating me, he always had a place he had checked out earlier to take me to. I loved that.

Two years later it turned into "So what should we do tonight?" After two years that's to be expected, but I had numerous discussions on enjoying being surprised like in the beginning of our relationship. Answer: "I'm not good at that." Errr, he used to be. :mad:


Sounds like he just got too lazy to bother doing the checking-out part.

I think the most important thing is communication, and that should go both ways. I'm all in favour of an equally balanced relationship. I could not enjoy a relationship with a woman who always takes the lead and expects me to hang around like a puppy. On the other hand neither would I enjoy having to make all the decisions because the woman doesn't have enough independence or confidence in herself to make her own mind up.
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05-19-2009 11:01
From: Chris Norse

DO THE ‘PUSH-PULL’
Open the door for her, but complain that she walks slower than your granny. Feed her at a restaurant but roll your eyes and mutter about how she’s a baby.

I'd get up and leave.
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05-19-2009 11:02
All of the advice seems to boil down to, "Women love for men to control them."
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05-19-2009 11:06
From: Oryx Tempel
I'd get up and leave.


Yeah, I think I would too!
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05-19-2009 11:09
From: Chris Norse
I didn't write it. Just found it in my daily wanderings along the net and thought it would make a fun thread. I haven't given any comments on the advice in the article other than to pass it along.


Oh sorry Chris - I mean the author missed out the most important thing.
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sable Valentine
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05-19-2009 11:15
From: Amity Slade
All of the advice seems to boil down to, "Women love for men to control them."


I totally disagree with that statement. I don't want anyone to "control" me. I don't mind Will taking the lead at times and he doesn't mind me doing that as well. It's all about being creative and making a sincere effort.
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05-19-2009 11:18
From: Czari Zenovka
. When my now-former SL partner was first dating me, he always had a place he had checked out earlier to take me to. I loved that.

Two years later it turned into "So what should we do tonight?" After two years that's to be expected, but I had numerous discussions on enjoying being surprised like in the beginning of our relationship. Answer: "I'm not good at that." Errr, he used to be. :mad:


Once in an established relationship, a man is sure to change. Before I was married it was, "What would you like, darling?". Afterwards, it was, "Have a cup of tea, it's cheaper"!
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05-19-2009 11:23
From: sable Valentine
I totally disagree with that statement. I don't want anyone to "control" me. I don't mind Will taking the lead at times and he doesn't mind me doing that as well. It's all about being creative and making a sincere effort.


Don't forget though, that list was written for Indian culture and society, which is far behind the West in terms of freedom for women, and how women are expected to behave. This list would probably have fitted well in the West, in the 1950s too.
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05-19-2009 11:42
Don't leave a dead mouse on the bed. Humans are really weird about that.
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05-19-2009 11:58
From: Deira Llanfair
Once in an established relationship, a man is sure to change. Before I was married it was, "What would you like, darling?". Afterwards, it was, "Have a cup of tea, it's cheaper"!


It's been said that men marry hoping their wife will never change, and that women marry hoping that their husband will. Both are doomed to disappointment.
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05-19-2009 12:09
hmm, the list is very shallow, and moving all women in the same camp. The reality is, that one finds his or her love, when they are not seeking for one, and when they least expect it. (situation, location, combo, etc)

when hunting for a relationship, or potential ones (dating), it's most likely that you set your radar to high, and therefor not relaxed. (both parties)

be yourself, if the other isn't interrested in the real you, don't bother.
hitting on (flirting has nothing to do with the love aspect, as many think) someone, is a behavior that is mostly off, from the usual reaction one would give, thus a masquarade. the other party might like the masquerade, but rejects your true self, once you have her/him relationwise.. it gives false predictions, characteristics..
so, be yourself all the time..
Lindal Kidd
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05-19-2009 12:36
From: say Moo
..The reality is, that one finds his or her love, when they are not seeking for one, and when they least expect it. ..


The sky has fallen. I actually agree with something you said. This is SO true!
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05-19-2009 12:54
From: someone
BE UNPREDICTABLE
Women love wondering what’s next. But most guys are painfully predictable. Don’t ASK her where she wants to go for dinner. Instead, TELL her see you at 8. If she’s curious, say “It’s a surprise.” Take her to an unusual place. Even if it’s a hole-in-the-wall dhaba, she’ll love it more than a fancy eatery, simply because of the anticipation. The only predictable thing about you should be unpredictability.
on odd occasions, fine. otherwise it says repetitive. ask me if i'd like to to go, tell me it's a surprise. (or I'd better know you really well to accept being TOLD wtf I'm doing for dinner)

From: someone
GET PHYSICAL, EARLY
The longer you delay touching her, the weirder it gets later to kiss her. Initiate touching early. Hug her when you meet; at least shake hands. Do some thumbwrestling while having coffee. If you’re going to a different venue, say “Let’s go!” and hold her hand. Then, remark “Hope you’re not getting ideas, just because we are holding hands”; roll your eyes and say “Women!”

make the offer, even just as a motion, don't force (and ignore those last two sentences)

From: someone
LEARN TO WALK AWAY
This one is routine sight in our malls. While the women are browsing the clothing section, boyfriends often hang around like puppy dogs, just waiting for them to get done. Not good for attraction! Walk away, browse the men’s section, chat with people, do anything that does not involve waiting for her. Let HER come and find you.

good luck with that.. seriously. tell me which section you're going to, and I'll do you the same favor. don't, and you'd better have your own ride, 'cause I'll have mine.

From: someone
LEAD, DON’T FOLLOW
Many guys, while interacting with a woman, give her all their power. While planning an evening out, he’ll ask her what she wants to do. If she suggests a movie, he’ll give her a list of movies to choose from and so on. Not good. Women like men who take decisions and take the lead. Your tone should be something like this: “Hey I’m going to see XYZ movie, at 8 tonight. Wanna tag along?”

right sentiment, wrong approach. "I'm going to X, I'd like to take you with me".

From: someone
COMPLIMENT HER
Don’t compliment her about her eyes, beauty etc in the first meeting itself. Instead, compliment her on something not so obvious. “I like the way you’re so well co-ordinated” is much better than “You’re so beautiful, are you a model?” Or you could be playful about it and say, “You have nice eyes, but you know what, mine are nicer.”

please come up with something better than coordination... positive emotion responses (even to image features) are great (except when the compare to other family/romantic interests, or thing your date isn't into)... don't talk about yourself... really.

From: someone
DON’T EASE THE TENSION
Once you’ve made your subtle yet cheeky moves, she may say things like “I like you” or “you’re funny”. Many guys drop the ball here and say “I like you too”. Well, that diffuses all the tension. Instead, up the tension further. Ask her if she’s flattering you just so you will go home with her. Be cocky. A good rule-of-thumb is to say all the stuff that women typically tell men.

once is funny, twice is weird, three times and you're sinking your own ship.

From: someone
TEASE HER
Teasing a woman the right way demonstrates confidence and humour. For instance, if she is walking behind you as you enter a restaurant, turn around, look at her sternly and say “Stop following and staring at me!” Then mock about about why women are always in a hurry to tear off your clothes before even knowing you. Interpret anything she does as if she is hitting on you.

same rule as previous

From: someone
LEARN HOW TO BE A GREAT KISSER
Women can tell from the way a man kisses how he will be in bed. Here’s a tip: Don’t be like most guys who kiss while they’re scheming to get to the main destination, sex. For a good kisser, the kiss is the destination itself; he kisses as if he wants to enjoy every moment of it. Women can tell the difference.

this... one stupid minor skill can do more for you than you can imagine

From: someone
DO THE ‘PUSH-PULL’
Open the door for her, but complain that she walks slower than your granny. Feed her at a restaurant but roll your eyes and mutter about how she’s a baby. While walking on the street, have her walk on the inside to protect her from the traffic; but tease her about how she’s delicate. If you can tease her and still treat her like a lady, chances are, before long, she will be lattoo over you.

go ahead, call me a baby, compare me to grandmother, and act like I'll break at the slightest breeze... I dare ya... (die)

From: someone
HAVE A LIFE!
Women don’t like men who follow them like Mary’s little lamb. Women, especially quality women, want a man who is on HIS path, following HIS passions. Have a busy life with interesting activities that bring a smile to YOUR face and it will automatically attract people (including women) to you. Don’t chase women, attract them.

and once you have her attention you'd better not make her keep chasing you always, or she'll find her attention where it's easier to keep it.
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Deira Llanfair
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05-19-2009 12:57
From: Lindal Kidd
It's been said that men marry hoping their wife will never change, and that women marry hoping that their husband will. Both are doomed to disappointment.


Well, change is one of the "Three Signs of Being" (Buddhism) - I guess we all hope to change for the better, but honestly,

"Open the door for her, but complain that she walks slower than your granny. Feed her at a restaurant but roll your eyes and mutter about how she’s a baby".

What sort of unintelligent guff is that?!!!! I think I'd sooner go out with his granny - she might be capable of better conversation!

@Lewis

India is really a very matriarchal society - the strong women rule there!
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05-19-2009 13:31
From: Chris Norse
BE UNPREDICTABLE


This is no longer allowed on Second Life. :rolleyes:
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05-19-2009 13:59
Hey, I looked up the article and there was a number eleven:

11. Bust out in a big Bollywood dance number with hundreds of extras.

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05-19-2009 14:01
From: Seven Okelli
Hey, I looked up the article and there was a number eleven:

11. Bust out in a big Bollywood dance number with hundreds of extras.

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OMG, how on earth did they ever leave that one out :eek:
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05-19-2009 14:27
From: Void Singer
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and once you have her attention you'd better not make her keep chasing you always, or she'll find her attention where it's easier to keep it.

Wow- although not wholy disagreeing with some things- it ws kinda hostile- but this one- yeah- make a damn effort- i got better things to do than chase after u forever.
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05-19-2009 14:33
Which number is "Drive me to the Mall, give me your wallet and be back to pick me up in 2 hours." ?
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