Have you tried SL's new search capability?

I don't profess to know anything about it and it's very slow to load here so I've cancelled but there seems to be a search tool add-in thingummy for Firefox?
http://secondlifesearch.ourtoolbar.com/

that looks like unneeded spyware to me. firefox does not need a third party toolbar, a searchbar is installed as it is.
a firefox user should be able to go to the plugin link above and fetch the sl search parameters without needing a spyware toolbar.

Wow groovy. I can now see how my products are being used in certain cases--very nice.

Thanks Nina, I wasn't sure. As I said, I'm not really up on these things.

I'm not sure that it is working properly, because it looks like I am selling the Welsh sheep made by my SL cousin Yavana - and I am not! Maybe they just bought one of your paintings and it is showing up erroneously in this search.

I put mine into a search engine and found out that Brenda has me listed as a vendor of knitted cat toys.

**Note** This might be a complete fabrication. Not even a knitted fabrication.

Kitty maybe we'll meet for reals at the session then, I intend to be there if my stupid screwed up sleep pattern allows me to.

OK wait...see, this was a concern of mine. I first thought that these people were re-selling my items...but then I figured that they couldn't do that, as I am the creator, and re-sell has always been turned off in my product.

So, if I found my item on the search list, and in a shop...are they selling it or not?

Because if they are...I have a problem with that. I don't mind selling on commission, but a total re-sell is the only thing I don't allow.

WHA...
Thanks to this I found someone reselling some of my freebie gestures, thanks for the link! You rock.

Awesome thanks much, gonna pop it into a blank page on my site, for my own personal search page hehe

The teleport links are sort of broken right now, but the addresses are good enough to type in by hand. So, you do at least get the ability to stop by the parcel and see what is happening. Items with a listing but an empty L$ column are enabled for search but not for sale, so you don't need to worry about those entries.

Right now it seems to have indexed only a random subset of the grid. Enough to get a feeling for function. So far, it is ignoring the checkbox that is supposed to allow you to restrict profile searches. Still shows mine, even though I locked it down as soon as the new client gave me the option. And it lists some people that I know, but not others, even though I am certain they have the same profile options set.

It lists my main store's paid ad, but ignores the seven for-sale prim items on the parcel, even though the parcel is set to show in Search > Places.

Interesting, but not fully up to speed yet.

(Edit: Just checked, and my "Show in search" checkbox had become selected again, against my wishes. I unchecked it, logged off, and logged back on, and *so far* it remains un-checked.)

That's NOT what I wrote.......

I'm putting on my tinfoil hat when I ask, but can we opt out of this scheme. I'm not too keen on my Profile being available outside the game for all to see, mainly for the potential for excessive marketing.

EDIT. Ceera seems tohave answered that question at least in theory. I guess I will have to use a new viewer to be able to opt out.

Using the current official Windows client for SL, I just double-checked all my alts. ALL of them had been reset to have "Show in Search" checked, even though as soon as we had a client that offered the option, I EXPLICITLY went to every account and unchecked that box, denying permission to be listed in full on their web-based search. I just went through and unchecked all of them again. We will see if the setting persists.

The items I found have a positive $L to them--however, I hovered my mouse over them at their alternate locations, and they don't have a dialog pop-up stating them as 'objects for sale.'

Are they for sale? Are they not? These items don't seem to be set up on display, but rather used as props--although they all still have a $L tag attached to them.

What's the deal?

Thanks.

Michael, I suspect those items were tagged at the time they were scanned as 'for sale', but the new owner has since then unchecked that property. The new search can lag three days or more behind whatever the profile or prim settings are that it is reporting.

Resticted profile will still show your profile although it seems to be showing less than they first suggested it would.

Hmm you don't show up restricted at all though, maybe it's still ropey.

OK, but these folks purchased my product a long time ago...so the information and database has had ample time to update and rollover.

How can I tell if they are selling my items? I just don't get it...how can someone buy my product which is NOT 'resell', and sell it?

Well, thanks for the warning. I also found my profile had been reset to show in search and now it is plastered, in full, on the public world wide web totally against my wishes.

I have just gone in on my main account and my alt's account ans reset that to off as well as blanked out all information and pictures. As far as my profile now shows, I may as well be an unknown newbie.

I consider this to be a major invasion of my privacy and am seriously unhappy that they made this an opt out where you only get the chance to close the barn door AFTER the horses have escaped. I want no part of my profile on the public web under ANY circumstances.

This is just my own feeling and if it works for you, hey, more power to you. But this really should be an OPT IN and defaulted to off. No profiles should ever be published to the public web without the avatar's owner specifically consenting to do so.

If I'm in the minority on this one, then so be it. But until LL wakes up on the privacy issues, my profile remains totally blank.

Thats really quite fast yet these forums are still a disgrace. **sigh**

Jeska's Q&A session has been postponed to Wednesday, today's Q&A is with Torley on WindLight although I think the only questions people will have is "is it there yet? is it there yet? is it there yet? "

I'm very curious as to why everyone is so afraid of what their AVs profiles might reveal. As if their AV has an immediate direct link and cross-reference to their real life--and what's even more questionable is the incredible secrecy some residence feel they need to insure.

OK, so you know my diplomacy needs work...but I assure you that although this above paragraph may resemble a criticism, it is not. [You] are in no way being placed in a negative light, regardless my word choices.

By looking at a profile, it is impossible to link that AV to a real life person, is it not? Well then what's the big deal?

Why is everyone so concerned? This is not at all a judgment, I'm simply curious. And I don't buy the marketing excuse...I highly doubt anyone is going to accrue spam from this.

What is the main reason people don't want their profiles published online?

Thanks for the input.

I'm in agreement with you as well. If it can't be turned off i will be blanking mine as well.

I unchecked mine too but I still show up in search. I am also concerned to note that when you click on the hyperlink that is the av's name, the resulting URL includes what looks like the av key.

BTW, when I open the initial search page, there is no box at the top for me to enter my query. I'm a Mac user and I wondered if it could be something to do with that. I've tried Safari, Netscape, Camino, Firefox, and IE for Mac with the same result. Has anyone else experienced this?

Personal choice No other explanation needed. Same when asked to use voice or anything else for that matter.

This may be related to this issue http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-2908 which LL seems reluctant to address.

Basically, I suspect if you look at the object closely you will find that it *is* set for sale, but is not actually buyable since either the owner does not have transfer permission, or else it is set to sell as copy and the owner does not have copy permission.

These almost certainly stem from previous bugs (some earlier this year), which when you bought an object set for sale, the object you receive would still be set for sale. There was even a time when if you had an object set for sale but did not have mod permissions you couldn't remove the for sale setting!

There may still be occasions when you might recieve an object which is set for sale (e.g. from a scripted vendor or just someone giving you an item).

So there may be items set for sale which aren't intended to be set for sale, and these may be unintentionally showing up in search. In most cases the owner's permissions are such that the item isn't buyable so just clutters up the search with false results and possibly causing the odd embarassment, but there may be cases when a no copy item gets purchased without the owner intending to sell it.

The above jira proposes a solution to the above by suggesting that only copt/transfer items set for sale (on land showing in search) default to showing in search. LL don't seem prepared to do this since they regard the above occurences as rare. My own experiences with the search suggest that the above is quite common however.

Matthew