Adult content on the mainland will need to move to the new continent

Geez. Was tallying up a month of Pre-Limbo now.....a month of Real Limbo during the physical move....probably a dozen other things you can add to your list that you forgot to plan for.....add another month of Lingering Limbo.

About the time it takes to build a business in SL. You're basically starting all over and building it from ground up.

Yep. And without even the potential to build it up to the SL population.

Tip of the iceberg, ferret. They have Plans for you.

You would look nice in a ferret stole.

*coughs* religious new CEO *coughs*

Are The Providers backtracking on "Adult activity in private residences will not have to move" now?

Where did you hear that?

I didn't. But some of the postings here seem to be implying that.

Interestingly, the above was written by our very own Mark Kingdon, in 2006. Maybe he should read up on his own writings.... http://www.clickz.com/3623393

Add your location size to the laundry list.

You can't just snag a huge piece of land on Ursula, to be safe.... and hope you'll grow into it. Not profitable.....you add as you grow....if you've got to restructure your whole model....knowing you won't be targeting the whole population....risky....probably not wise to bust out a huge chunk right away.

Think of the time frame it will take to add.....waiting for the adjoining lots to become available when you're ready for them. Could take another six months....took me a year to snag those....or....you get to your new location....things turn out ok....you outgrow it....choose not to wait for adjoining land to come up....and move again. Rinse and Repeat.

Add the Neighbor Factor. Quite a range of activities will be going on over there....from subtle to blatant. If you're on the subtle end.....that blatant neighbor is going to wear you out. Not exactly something you can make a judgment call on choosing location during a 9 day scramble......even at best, if you do get to choose.

You can use a bit of history on mainland or private estates to make a call on location......no history in Ursula, to make a call.....you'll be winging it.

All of those add to it being bad news. To my way of thinking, the third one in particular. There is no way that I'd want to be in a sim that has lag-causing "activities" in it. I buy every piece of land that comes up for sale in the sim to avoid such things happening. Not long ago, one person put a sign on her land, offering it for sale and stating that she prefers that it's used for a club or some social activity. The land wasn't set for sale, so I emailed her, as suggested. She wouldn't sell it to me because she thinks that everything should be free in SL and she refused to sell it to what she called "big business". I got a friend to buy it, so I have the land, but her desires for it were exactly what I want to keep out of the sim. Without having a whole sim to swap, I would have to put up with whatever else is placed in the sim. It's not for me.

Shirley!
You are extracting urine!
Naughty.

Originally Posted by Lindal Kidd
Linden Lab has adopted a morality that harks back to 1950s television shows.



When we have a television show rated for 14 year olds (CSI:NY) with an episode about a married threesome, and "threesome" is on the adult word list in SL, Lindal is not kidding. This policy is out of step with current american moral standards, let alone the rest of the world.

First of all, it's not mature content, it's *adult* content, as defined in a knowledge base page that is not yet final:

https://support.secondlife.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=4417&task=knowledge&questionID=6010

And it has been repeatedly said it's not *all* adult content, only public adult content. Though we have had contradictory answers about what makes a parcel public vs private.

Thirdly, it's been said that not all people with public adult content will qualify, either, it depends if it is necessary to your place. If you sell one adult item out of 100, they may just tell you no.

Fourthly, it's not been made clear what adult things are OK vs not OK amongst the following: avatar images on textures, words on textures, float text on items, objects emitting chat, notecard givers, engaging in public chat, IM, or voice (all on less than adult parcels) group chat, group notices (on less than adult groups).

Fifthly, it cannot happen until the 1.23 client is widely in use, since the required settings
we will need to set are not available in earlier versions... so the timing will depend on when that version is ready for release.

Sixthly, yes they did tell us how they plan to do it mechanically as far as moving people, but its buried among thousands of forum posts. More or less the plan is this:

- At some point they will open it to filing move request support tickets
- On a first come, first served basis they will review your request, and decide if you are eligible.
- If you are, you can choose up to three choices on the new Ursula continent.
- No guarantee on getting the exact same shape, area, terrain, etc, or how laggy the resulting sim will end up.
- Once a final location is selected, you will be able to claim it, and have some overlap period to move your stuff without paying double tier. Initially they said 9 days, but are rethinking that. No charge to claim the new parcel.
- Initially they said no help to move, they may change that.
- If you decide to keep your old location, once the overlap period expires, you will pay tier on both locations. Otherwise abandon the old parcel. You will be allowed to leave a landmark giver on the old location for 30 days.

What about the business owners who don't have to move at all, located in private estate sims. The land scrambles.

I'm always worried that 75% of land holders on a sim that I have a small (but important connecting) parcel on are going to all dump at the same time.....making it cost effective for the sim owner to dump the whole sim as well. No hard feelings to the sim owner....it's business...it's smart. Not only is the small parcel gone.....but so is potential for expanding when time comes.

Can visualize a lot of that going on....as everyone makes their jump.....particularly for private estate sim owners who will be left with some major vacancies....having to let a chunk of their sims go back.... major scrambling involved for those who don't think this is an issue for them at all.....whether they be business owner or residence owner.

Yeah....that's old news if you've followed every thread on adult content....most people who don't have it....don't follow consistently or at all......we'll catch up soon enough.....or not.

Always wondering about all those people who have never read a blog or forum thread, period.....can't blame them....takes major time to follow, and they've got work to do. I've got no problem seeing a thread on it every day.....if it helps those people who trickle in and Wake Up. It's not just the adult content producers/users who need to wake up. All of a sudden....new day, new world.....for everyone....even June and Ward and sweet little Beaver.....when the scramble kicks in.

The timing is also a stroke of genius being in the summer months. There you are stuck on a beach with no broadband and the heads up comes to submit your ticket to move NOW.

Why don't they allow tickets now so they have much longer to see the scale of the problem..er move...then arrange a timescale for checking out where people would like to be based on maybe 'age' of AV in SL.

Also by knowing well in advance the parcel sizes required they can pencil in a layout...

The nightmares of course is ending up with laggy clubs all together..or having your little shop on the Gorner next to a garrish strip joint. Also having your exciting gen sex bed store next to L$99 specials............................as you dodge the ammo in the streets from the violent content crowd.....

But then this move isn't about allowing the ongoing success of adult content in SL (or as mistakenly typed in the jira adult c*ntent...(kept pg here lolll))

Someone actually (mis)typed that in a Jira? LOL

Well, duh, if you don't care enough about SL to abandon your vacation plans to hang by the computer waiting for THE WORD you're not SERIOUS ENOUGH to qualify for the move.

ROTFLMAO

Hey with all the swine flu and credit crunch i ain't going nowhere....blog is my homepage....lollllll

Oh also this is a new blog/update as Cyn has added this end bit..

'The level of engagement we've seen has been terrific - the time and effort you have put into explaining your sensitivities and concerns is much appreciated!*** We look forward to continued dialog as we work on this challenge together.

Thanks once again for your feedback!'

***what she didn't add was 'and will be ignored'.....

It's stuff like this (among everything else, of course!) that makes me *very* glad that I won't be in the "have to move" category. I'm in the middle of a RL work blitz that I quite simply *can't* just drop - it's the major data collection phase of my research that I've spent the last several years preparing for, and it'll be running until the end of July at the very least. Moving my store and the surrounding marine park (which are fairly modest by SL standards) would be a good couple of days' work, I'd guess. If I didn't have a couple of days free during the Amazingly Generous Nine Days Window Of Doom, I'd be stuffed, right?

Yuk. While I'm sure there will turn out to be all sorts of drawbacks and PITA factors in remaining on my PG/G/Disney plot of land after The Great Bowdlerisation, that's one PITA I am *very* glad I won't have to contend with.

Here's another log on the fire:

As of this last server code change, it's NOT ALLOWED to pick up and take into inventory more than 1000 prims at a time. Gonna make it even harder for any of the big parcels to move to Ursula.

So *you're* the one that has been posting all these survey threads.

Saw the JIRA voted on it. You should link it here too.

It's http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-4207. I was at Andrew's office hour today, where this jira got a lot of discussion. It seems that picking up much more than 1000 prims into a single coalesced object is very likely to result in the thing failing to rez again. The more prims, the less likely the rezzing will succeed. Very messy to change that at all reliably.

It's going to suck, but honestly I don't see much hope of it changing.

I got the impression there were builders who have regurally been picking up more prims without rezzing problems. So, I am just wondering what kind of tests they did to come to this figure, or did they just pull out a number they thought was reasonable?