Defending Texture Sourcing....right or wrong?

can the images being manipulated be non-copywrighted material not offered by FF?

There are Art Images that are public domain that some have claimed to own on the internet as their company owns the right to copyrights to sell.
I don't get those either.
Only thing I can think is its a artist reproduction of Old Master Artist.
I have often wonder in some cases because it is really hard for me to tell if it was just a photo.
And if it was it could have been easily taken with with high quality camera of the original Old Master image, printed with high quality printer and put on poster for sell.

Well... if you see a picture of a painting (in public domain or not) on the internet you are seeing a photo of the painting. Someone took that photo and they own the copyright on it. And if I use their photo of the painting I need the photographer's permission. If I can't get it then I have to ask the owner of the painting if they will allow me to photograph it myself.

I was referring to images of easily recognized old masters like Mona Lisa,etc.

Right. But if I don't own the painting myself I have to ask the permission of the owner before I take a picture of it. After all a painting isn't intellectual property; it is a tangible object which is owned by an institution or person. If someone else has taken a picture of the painting and posted it on the internet I can't legally use that photograph without the permission of that photographer.

Some of the images I doubt they got permission though from the Museum.
Lot of people in world photograph themselves for profiles and blogs they don't ask the skin creator for permission to do so.

Don't art galleries generally have a policy of either allowing or not allowing photography?
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Some do but so do places that show major films in real life.
Yet people still bring in equipment and take photos, videos, turn around and sell them.
The difference is the big production companies often have more clout in enforcing and punishing someone doing it.
Some unknown artist like myself who is disabled in real life, broke doesn't have the same resources to enforce it.
So I just create for myself. When I share signature images I have done yeah they can be taken but that is risk I decide to take but not always interested in doing this for everyone.
I am here to create for myself and possibly friends or those I want too.
I am under no obligation to create for just anyone.

You mean even when it isn't allowed? (gasp)

You mean even when it isn't allowed? (gasp)

Could it be because these people make more money doing what they are doing then Joe Blow's Texture Emporium in corner of SL lot somewhere?

No one will bat a eye. Not even LL because they don't remove those textures from the data base even when there is take down orders

Really?!?

...it's that SLX does not want to get in the middle of a legal battle between you and the other customer.

Yes I know this because I have friend who is constantly dealing his products being stolen and resold. He places take down order with his proof of him being the creator, proof of the theft, waits few months, by then the theft has sold the product to several people, LL shows up tells the theft to not sell products, so the theft transfers his stolen products to another account opens up a new business.

yes but that`s where the tos posted earlier comes in when images are submitted on the site

...it's that SLX does not want to get in the middle of a legal battle between you and the other customer.

Not really. In the United States forum and blog hosts are generally immune from any statements made by other people on their websites that may be libelous unless it's proven in court at which point they may be obligated to remove such posts but that's the extent of the liability unless they refuse to remove the posts. They are not even obligated to release a poster's account information either unless served with a subpoena to do so, so removal of potentially libelous posts has little to do with legal concerns and more to do with the kind of forum environment that the host wants to provide.

47 U.S.C. § 230 is supposed to protect the operator of a web site from content posted by its users

is it wrong? dunno, not my call...... will posting these problems in the forums get a solution? nope.

Hi,

I am curious to know what you all think about an individual taking a texture off the internet and selling it full perms saying "this is my work, i made it, dont resell or redistribute".

It appears to me that there are people defending this type of behavior...am I wrong in thinking that an identical texture that is taken straight from google search and sold under the guise of credibility is still wrong no matter how credible that person is.


I know this has been discussed at length before....BUT it seems like people who own decent businesses in SL are ACTUALLY defending texture theft due to a persons credibility.


This is currently rampant on SLX, but I recently discovered a very credible and so i thought "talented" individual, was actually ripping textures off the internet and selling it as her own work...she has admitted to me that she made a mistake...but her defenders are actually saying things like :

" People DO do worse...much WORSE.....and thats my point....you have little or no concern with THOSE people, but instead decide to focus on someone who sells nice textures regardlessof where YOU want to say they came from.....she has done the work one way or another creating these packs and you are just out to try and destroy her for selfish reasons and you know it! And hopefuly anyone else who reads this and knows XXXXXX CREDIBILITY will too! "

"If someone uses an image...."IF" someone uses an image from the internet as a basis for creating a texture in a paint program......I see nothing wrong with that. "IF" someone takes one straight off the internet and sells it, well if they are willing to save me the time of scouring the internet looking for something I need, and box it up in a nice little neat package for me with pretty little pictures....I dont mind paying for that either as they saved me the time of having to do it myself"


This really irks me...the persons who are involved in this are actually reputable people in SL.