Age Verification UK SL Members...

I pay my tier and other fees to Lindens by pay pal in the UK you have to be 18 to get a pay pal account. Ive also used my credit card and you have to be 18 to get a credit card in the UK.

Bearing in mind that lindens applied VAT rules to all europeans why do UK members have to age verify when we are already age regulated by virtue of our our using a credit card / and or pay pal ? Theres a UK Lindens office and if Lindens are going to apply some rules then they should also apply other rules they should clearly know about.

Lindens know our location and if we're using either of these methods to pay it seems only fair we should be accepted as age verified without needing to give any further info.

It took me two minutes to register with my passport number.

Agreeably, I had already done this ages ago, and the Linden's admitted that some people had become 'unverifed' again.

But anyway, it was very quick and painless.

I am in the UK, btw.

Do not age verify, why would you need to? You already have the credentials to access adult search by having a payment relationship with LL.

Giving aristotle your passport number is a waste of time, they have no authority to check it.

You don't "have to" any more than anyone else does, as far as I understand things.

Personally, I will just stay off any sim that requires I use Aristotle. I'm against it for a lot of other reasons and I am most certainly not under 18.

And what about those who have neither passport nor drivers licence? And what's the point in being able to search, if you have to be age verified to get there.

I too have verified my paypal account with LL. This should be enough to prove I am over 18. So, does anyone in the UK know how to verify your age by using this method alone - not through the use of passport / driving licence?

If your not age verified, you shouldn't be able to search places your not suppose to be, ie those with adult content, that's what the new viewer does. If you have payment info on file that should make you age verified.

If you have PIOF or PIU that is all you need to be account verified and to access Adult Content.

For more information in a nutshell have a look at this page:

http://www.slapt.me/wiki/index.php/SL_Verification_(Age_%26_Payment)_-_Issues_and_Information

HTH

The point is that in the uk rules for setting up pay pal and credit cards insist youre over 18

there shouldnt be any need for anymore mucking around.


Lindens applied v.a.t automatically to UK members based on the IP code ...they should be able to do the same when it comes to age verification and class any UK member using pay pal and/or credit card as age verified without any further inconvenience to the user.

And I dont have a driving licence or passport and in view of continual warnings about identity theft and the obvious disastifacton with aristotle apparent on this forum I dont see why I should have to mess around anymore.


MARK ME AS AGE VERIFIED WITHOUT FURTHER TO DO PLEASE LINDENS AND FOLLOW UK RULES LIKE YOU DID WHEN YOU APPLIED V.A.T

Either you dont understand, or its not working for you the way its supposed to for you.

Anyone who pays tier is automatically payment verified and so can search and get into adult regions.
You will also need to set the appropriate setting in edit preferences to enable it.

It works for me, I never gave passport or driver licence but I can get in adult areas as I pay tier so they have my payment info.

The impression I get is that you have to age verify as well as having your payment info on file. Theres a special age verification option next to your account details.

Only for access to parcels with the "Block Access by Residents who are not age verified adults" box checked for their parcel.

https://support.secondlife.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=4417&task=knowledge&questionID=4568


To meet that clearly indicates you are going to have to get age verified if you wnat to go into mature content areas...even worse it implies you may even have to pay for it....

Apparently Americans allow anyone to have a credit card or pay pal account... but as Ive stated in the UK you have to be over 18.

That article does not address "Adult" rated regions.

"Becoming age-verified permits you to enter land in Second Life in which the landowner has limited access to only those who are verified adults."

This is an option a parcel's owner can set and it is separate from a region's rating.

To access Adult Content, you only need payment information on file. You can test this with the 1.23RC viewer. In General Preferences there's a menu option for the level of content you want to access. If you can select "Adult" there, you're good to go.

Apparently you can get into any region with payment info on file...

payment info on file is NOT the same thing as age verification.

If any landowner sets age verification required then you cant get in (unless youve verified with some 3rd party company who - according to most feedback Ive seen on this forum - has a poor reputation at best).

Any landowner who doesn't set age verification required is breaking sl rules if they have 'mature' content on their and lindens expect anyone encountering this to report the situation (see FAQ)

faq may possibly be incorrect according to chat with inworld live help today (they preferred I didnt quote the convo).


My conclusion forget age verification ...and if encountering bars to areas access forget paying membership and sell up land too....

As usual a hotchpotch of ludicrous Linden rules.....

Having had my credit card defrauded a couple of times after online transactions and being aware of ongoing concerns about identity theft Im certainly not giving info to some company who before this forum Id never heard of and of whom Ive only seen bad reports.....

In addition I dont have a driving licence or passport and am certainly not giving out my birth cert. or NI No info.

(Do you relaise what can be achieved in the UK if some one gets your NI No ?)

WRONG !!!!

The two are not the same and if someone imposes an age verification block unless youve got age verification you wont get in..

dont take my word for it speak to inworld help

Reply to Dekka - that's my point. I have paypal info on file and used, so surely this means I am already age verified - and people keep saying it does. So why aren't I?

OK. I have paypal information on file. I use it every month to pay my tier to Lindens.

Apparently this means I am age verified. I am not. I recently had occasion to try to get in to an area which had a sex shop, and access was restricted because I was not age verified. I didn't even want to visit that shop.

So to anyone who believes PIOF automatically means you are age verified - it does not! I checked my account and there was no way to link this to age verification. The only way I could do it was to enter my passport number, which indeed only took a couple of minutes.

Problem is, many people have neither passport not drivers licence, and I suspect English NI numbers are pretty useless anyway, so how do they get age verified? It should be because you have payment info used - but it isn't. What's the answer?

There would be nothing -MORE- squick to me personally than discovering that the 'activity' I was doing in SL was being done with someone not of adult age on the other end of their screen... - I think I would have a RL physical throwing up reaction if that happened to me.

To that end, while I felt very weird about giving L-labs my RL info, I'm kind of glad for age verification.

The only thing that worries me is that 'adult age' is notable lower in some places, like Japan (14 for women, 18 or 20 for men - really sick IMO, but there you go), so I'll still have to be a little guarded in my conduct if they do this verification according to local standards rather than international norms.

There's a wee bit of confusion in this thread.

Age verified is a current parcel setting, it may well stay as a choice. For that you need to provide Aristotle with information they have no right to access.

To access adult search you need to have payment info used, the same goes for accessing adult sims.

How many land owners are going to use "Age verified only" when it slices their reach, the vast majority will flag as adult which will allow premium members and those with a RL payment history to Linden Lab to be able to access the land.

Ciaran I hate to be a 'fly in the ointment' but if land has 'mature content' they are going to have to flag it as age verified... Read the FAQ for yourself.

And its quite clear the confusion is down to lindens. trying to introduce a jumble of piecemeal and complex rules because they basically dont know who theyre trying to aim sl at ....

This is not true Maelstrom, they flag it as adult.

Download the RC viewer. I am age verified, I did it early concierge where the silly fields were not mandatory.

My alt is payment info used.

We can both conduct adult searches.

My other alt who isn't payment info used cannot access adult search.

Adult is the flag, age verified is a flag I admit, but the vast majority will not use it as it will be pointless, add to that that it has never worked as intended anyway and there's little reason for anyone to be using the age verified flag.

This.

I am in the UK, and as I have payment info on file I'm automatically age-verified, I didn't have to do anything additional. I did actually attempt to verify an alt (that has no payment info on file) by way of my passport number but it failed. I guess my personal data isn't loose on the internet so Aristotle failed to find it on Google. ^_^

If you are in the UK and have no payment on file and no drivers license or passport, you can scan in and email a copy of some other supporting documents. They ask for birth certificate and utility bills displaying your name and address. If you can't provide those either, then you have no other way to age-verify.